Tempest Dahlia Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 To believe in nothing, is a Nihilist.To not believe, is an Atheiest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyHost Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 How can there be an aethiest satanist To be a satanist' date=' means to belive in satan as basicly your god, while an aethiest belives that science and some other stuff, made the unvierse, meaning, they dont belive in heaven and Hell, they cant belive in satan in that case[/quote'] Uh, wrong. There is such thing as Atheistic Satanism. It's the worshiping of oneself and using the ideas of Satan as guidelines. It's commonly known as LaVeyan Satanism.lol@this if u can believe in satan, a figure of whom is hard to prove is real, how can you not believe in God, of which is a figure whom is hard to prove is real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 How can there be an aethiest satanist To be a satanist' date=' means to belive in satan as basicly your god, while an aethiest belives that science and some other stuff, made the unvierse, meaning, they dont belive in heaven and Hell, they cant belive in satan in that case[/quote'] Uh, wrong. There is such thing as Atheistic Satanism. It's the worshiping of oneself and using the ideas of Satan as guidelines. It's commonly known as LaVeyan Satanism.lol@this if u can believe in satan, a figure of whom is hard to prove is real, how can you not believe in God, of which is a figure whom is hard to prove is real? lol@this If you can read, which it seems like you can't, you can clearly see that LaVeyan Satanism is the worshiping of oneself and using the ideas of Satan as guidelines. It doesn't say anywhere that the person believes in Satan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyHost Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 how can u follow someone/something's guidelines if you dont think their real? thats like me saying:i believe in godzilla's guidelines, even though godzilla is real and he has no guidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 It's not that hard to do that. You're just funking it up to make it look like anything atheist related is retarded. You follow the guidelines that the Mighty Book of Contradictions Bible says, so why can't people follow the guidelines of what Satan says. I'm not a satanist or anything, so I may not be able to fully explain this. Let's let somebody like Eury (YESH I KNOW EURY'S NOT A SATANIST BUT STILL) explain this better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyHost Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 im not messing up anything, im just trying to educate you by explaining why what he said was so stupid. i dont care what religion you are/aren't. and you have explained nothing lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 im not messing up anything' date=' im just trying to educate you by explaining why what he said was so stupid. i dont care what religion you are/aren't. and you have explained nothing lol.[/quote'] No offense, but you haven't explained how God COULD be real, so you shouldn't really be talking. It's not stupid. A flipping peanut can understand what he said. I'm not going to argue anymore unless I'm spoken to directly now, so you all can carry on your useless bickering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 .....You're an idiot. Here is pretty much what LaVeyan Satanists believe. "Satanists do not believe in the supernatural, in neither God nor the Devil. To the Satanist, he is his own God. Satan is a symbol of Man living as his prideful, carnal nature dictates. The reality behind Satan is simply the dark evolutionary force of entropy that permeates all of nature and provides the drive for survival and propagation inherent in all living things. Satan is not a conscious entity to be worshiped, rather a reservoir of power inside each human to be tapped at will. Thus any concept of sacrifice is rejected as a Christian aberration—in Satanism there’s no deity to which one can sacrifice." "Satanists do not believe that Satan is a god; rather, the function of God is performed and satisfied by the Satanist him/herself. That is, the needs of worship, ritual, and religious/spiritual focus are directed, effectively, inwards towards the Satanist, as opposed to outwards towards a God." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyHost Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 .....You're an idiot. Here is pretty much what LaVeyan Satanists believe. "Satanists do not believe in the supernatural' date=' in neither God nor the Devil. To the Satanist, he is his own God. Satan is a symbol of Man living as his prideful, carnal nature dictates. The reality behind Satan is simply the dark evolutionary force of entropy that permeates all of nature and provides the drive for survival and propagation inherent in all living things. Satan is not a conscious entity to be worshiped, rather a reservoir of power inside each human to be tapped at will. Thus any concept of sacrifice is rejected as a Christian aberration—in Satanism there’s no deity to which one can sacrifice." "Satanists do not believe that Satan is a god; rather, the function of God is performed and satisfied by the Satanist him/herself. That is, the needs of worship, ritual, and religious/spiritual focus are directed, effectively, inwards towards the Satanist, as opposed to outwards towards a God."[/quote']read this Godot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 .....You're an idiot. Here is pretty much what LaVeyan Satanists believe. "Satanists do not believe in the supernatural' date=' in neither God nor the Devil. To the Satanist, he is his own God. Satan is a symbol of Man living as his prideful, carnal nature dictates. The reality behind Satan is simply the dark evolutionary force of entropy that permeates all of nature and provides the drive for survival and propagation inherent in all living things. Satan is not a conscious entity to be worshiped, rather a reservoir of power inside each human to be tapped at will. Thus any concept of sacrifice is rejected as a Christian aberration—in Satanism there’s no deity to which one can sacrifice." "Satanists do not believe that Satan is a god; rather, the function of God is performed and satisfied by the Satanist him/herself. That is, the needs of worship, ritual, and religious/spiritual focus are directed, effectively, inwards towards the Satanist, as opposed to outwards towards a God."[/quote']read this Godot It was directed towards you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyHost Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 i dont care about satanists, obviously godot does. if he should talk about satanism or whatever, he should know what it means. ive read it, i could care less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 i dont care about satanists' date=' obviously godot does. if he should talk about satanism or whatever, he should know what it means. ive read it, i could care less[/quote'] Then why were you arguing with us about what Satanists believe? You're just ignorant towards Satanism, like most Christians are. Godot is atheist iirc, I'm a Luciferian. Neither of us are Satanists. You argued something you knew nothing about, and we put you in your place. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 I don't give a crap about Satanism. I was explaining that your logic is ridiculously flawed and it happened to be based around Satanism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 /atheism can not exist without a god to not belive in' date=' therefor, there is one[/quote'] ...what? That doesn't make the slightest of sense. "without a god to not believe in" But we don't not believe in "a god", we not believe in the idea that "a god exists". lulz so bassicly your saying that every religion besides the religion that is about not having a religon which is in no way religious is the only right religion?How can there be an aethiest satanist To be a satanist' date=' means to belive in satan as basicly your god, while an aethiest belives that science and some other stuff, made the unvierse, meaning, they dont belive in heaven and Hell, they cant belive in satan in that case[/quote'] Your posts are funny. Atheists cannot be Satanists, nor can they be part of any religion outside of Pastafarianism, but they can believe in the religion's principles. You can see an anti-gay atheist, although rare. "Anti-gay" originally came from Christianity and da bibl, but that doesn't mean the "anti-gay atheist" is Christian. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 Wynn. I have something to tell you. You don't have to win in an argument to become cool. In fact, when someone is trying to win forever, it sounds darn stupid. Over 80% of your posts here are considered invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyHost Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 whether or not he wins the arguement, hes still cool in my book :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 I win http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-213507.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinnamonStar Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 Atheists cannot be Satanists' date=' nor can they be part of any religion outside of Pastafarianism, but they can believe in the religion's principles. You can see an anti-gay atheist, although rare. "Anti-gay" originally came from Christianity and da bibl, but that doesn't mean the "anti-gay atheist" is Christian. :/[/quote'] Again wrong. Atheists can be Taoists, Atheists can be Christian Atheists, Wiccan Atheists, whatever. You seem to confuse Atheism with "no religion". Atheists can be of a religion if they consider themselves as such, usually they don't but most Taoists or LaVeyan Satanists are Atheists so Atheists can pretty well be Taoists or LaVeyan Satanists. I agree that they can adhere to a religion's principles mostly but again, if some of them decide to count themselves into a religion then it's THEIR choice and not yours. Also NO, homophobic sentiments didn't come from a religion, there were people during Antiquity who condemned it too, even though Greco-Roman Antiquity was known for having built its culture on homo-eroticism. But you can find homophobic people anywhere and just because certain better-known religious people (who are simply better-known for being nuts) try to use the bible to justify homophobia doesn't mean that anti-gay sentiments have their roots in Christianity. In fact the bible can be used for anything, since it's a collection of different books written by different authors. There are people who use it to justify communism, others use it to justify vegetarianism. Nietzsche has been used be nazis, but also by Nihilists, Philhellenists, music theoreticians,... If you're looking for something you'll find it. So "Your posts are funny" goes back to you. Also BehindTheMask, you don't. Who said that's it's an universal principle that if a god exists, he's "ommiscient, omnipotent and morally perfect"? Have you asked people and gotten empirical proof that many believe that? Obviously you just proved an out-dated principle wrong that people relied on during the Middle-Ages and that only refers to a very specific branch even within Christian communities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 Atheists cannot be Satanists' date=' nor can they be part of any religion outside of Pastafarianism, but they can believe in the religion's principles. You can see an anti-gay atheist, although rare. "Anti-gay" originally came from Christianity and da bibl, but that doesn't mean the "anti-gay atheist" is Christian. :/[/quote'] Again wrong. Atheists can be Taoists, Atheists can be Christian Atheists, Wiccan Atheists, whatever. You seem to confuse Atheism with "no religion". Atheists can be of a religion if they consider themselves as such, usually they don't but most Taoists or LaVeyan Satanists are Atheists so Atheists can pretty well be Taoists or LaVeyan Satanists. I agree that they can adhere to a religion's principles mostly but again, if some of them decide to count themselves into a religion then it's THEIR choice and not yours. Most religions are associated with the belief or worship of a deity, which is why I said atheists cannot be part of a religion. If they choose to be part of Christianity, they can't fully follow the religion because they don't care about God or Jesus or those people. If you mean a Christian Atheist is an atheist who follows Christian principles, that is fine. Otherwise, I fail to understand the concept. Also NO, homophobic sentiments didn't come from a religion, there were people during Antiquity who condemned it too, even though Greco-Roman Antiquity was known for having built its culture on homo-eroticism. But you can find homophobic people anywhere and just because certain better-known religious people (who are simply better-known for being nuts) try to use the bible to justify homophobia doesn't mean that anti-gay sentiments have their roots in Christianity. In fact the bible can be used for anything, since it's a collection of different books written by different authors. There are people who use it to justify communism, others use it to justify vegetarianism. Nietzsche has been used be nazis, but also by Nihilists, Philhellenists, music theoreticians,... If you're looking for something you'll find it. I do apologize for not knowing the full roots of homophobes, that isn't something I'd research on a random day. It was incorrect of me to say homophobia had religious roots, but recently, people have been using religious texts to "justify" homophobia. That's probably why I said what I said, but the fact remains that what I said was incorrect. So "Your posts are funny" goes back to you. D: Also BehindTheMask, you don't. Who said that's it's an universal principle that if a god exists, he's "ommiscient, omnipotent and morally perfect"? Have you asked people and gotten empirical proof that many believe that? Obviously you just proved an out-dated principle wrong that people relied on during the Middle-Ages and that only refers to a very specific branch even within Christian communities. These threads have always been stupid, but we're all racking up +1 post count, so why not? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caner5000 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 How is Atheism a lie? Beliefs are un-known if their true or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidel Castro Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 How about we just agree that deism has the right ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Red Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 god is my mum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 This is a joke, but A good way to teach kids not to be atheists "Did you know, Dr. doom, Doc oc, the green goblin, the sand man, and all the other villians are athiests? dont be an athiest, it makes you a villian" agian, just a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrise Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 This is a joke' date=' but A good way to teach kids not to be atheists "Did you know, Dr. doom, Doc oc, the green goblin, the sand man, and all the other villians are athiests? dont be an athiest, it makes you a villian" agian, just a joke[/quote'] What if kids want to be villains .That would mean they would in a sense, be Atheists.Also, your joke isn't funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 Its not a funny one, its just used to say that you arnt being serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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