Yasu Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 FM6 believes in free will.Could someone tell me, why do some people say it's wrong.It confuses me. :O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG. Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Some people say it's wrong because "God" decides what everyone does. I don't say that, luckily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Some people say it doesn't exist because God has predetermined everything. Some people say it doesn't exist because the physical laws of the universe can only produce one chain of events from a given state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted July 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Well, gold an uranium... they're shiny :3What a boring god, I wonder how competent that creator really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 ^ >_> Right, anyway... Free will is wrong because it allows humans to be human. Or in other words, it allows humans to be greedy, and evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG. Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Some people say it doesn't exist because God has predetermined everything. Some people say it doesn't exist because the physical laws of the universe can only produce one chain of events from a given state. Good point that last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuu. Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Free will exists, God doesn't.That's what i think about it and i don't give a sheet about what other people say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Metal Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 I believe our actions are pre-determined. We just don't know what the actions they are, therefore we believe that we can change the inevitable by taking other actions to avoid it. Those actions taken to avoid it are the actions that caused the inevitable to happen. So.... No. I don't think free will exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Impact Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 look its written in the damn bible. god gave us that privledge. and if he isnt real then we still have free will. so either way...PARTAY AT MY HOUSE, AND GOD AINT DOIN NOTIN BOUT IT!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A King by Rights Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Free Will Exists!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orza Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 I don't care? But if I must I would say crab. H's is the best explination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Free will does exist, but no matter what, its already set what will happen, theres a pre-set timeline for everything that can happen in one moment, depending on what you chose to do, the timeline is that, and you follow that timeline, until it changes agian, thats my theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG. Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Free will does exist' date=' but no matter what, its already set what will happen, theres a pre-set timeline for everything that can happen in one moment, depending on what you chose to do, the timeline is that, and you follow that timeline, until it changes agian, thats my theory[/quote'] ...Wait, what? *head implodes* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Hero Z3R0 Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Free will does not exist.Everything is determined by destiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 DESTINY MY ASS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Hero Z3R0 Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Can you prove that destiny doesn't exist,no.I cant prove that it does exist either,that was just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Yeah? well my opinion is that destiny is a load of (Not for the eyes of...well anyone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 You can do whatever you want. If you want to punch someone in the face, that's fine. Is that considered free will? What I think is that when you punch someone, only one chain of events (that pertain to that punch) can happen. If you punch someone, if you punched the correct person in the right place at the right time, they will punch you back. If those same events are replicated (exactly) in any alternate universe, that outcome will ALWAYS be the same. If anything is changed (punching them in the ear as opposed to the face, etc), the outcome could be the same, but may not be the same (they could walk away as opposed to punching you, etc). You have free will, meaning you decide what you are going to do, but those actions control what happens as a result. You cannot control the result (unless you know the result of a specific action and complete that action exactly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Thats kind of what I was saying, you said it better though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Free Will exists. There is no God. End of story, now eat your veggies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 You people are all so thick. Logically speaking, free will more than likely does not exist, get over it. These so called decisions that you make are done on account of what you are already. What exactly is it that made you what you are? Nature and nurture, neither of which you had on effect on. Everything we think is just a chemical reaction. We're all just a bunch of chemical reactions, and the idea of free will spawned out of ignorance, a means of blaming others and belief that we matter where should instead be awareness, acceptance and humility. Another simple way of putting this is that no matter what we're doing we're trying to please ourselves, and there is no control over that. It's how our brains work. EDIT: Oh, sorry Death Metal; I didn't notice that post thar'. Kudos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Exodia Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 God exists. Free Will, if you could call it that, more of Decisions, like Atlas said, exists. Also, I think that You have the will to do what you do, but only God knows what you will do next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted July 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 An illusion is more than enough for me.Don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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