touzaikokon Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 You can remove 1 "Scrap Recycler" you control from play to Special Summon this card from your Graveyard. When this card is Summoned, you can send 1 Machine-Type monster from your Deck to your Graveyard. Once per turn, you can remove 1 Machine-Type monster in your Graveyard from play to increase this card's ATK by 1000, until the End Phase. rate/discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alordzynix Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Seems balanced and in good harmony with Scrap Recycler. I don't know enough about the other scrap cards to say wheter or not it works good with those too, but that seems irrelevant here. I think it is balanced, maybe even underpowered (you could give it another 100/200 extra ATK). Simple yet usefull card. 8.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touzaikokon Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Seems balanced and in good harmony with Scrap Recycler. I don't know enough about the other scrap cards to say wheter or not it works good with those too, but that seems irrelevant here. I think it is balanced, maybe even underpowered (you could give it another 100/200 extra ATK). Simple yet usefull card. 8.5/10 Well, the other Scrap monsters aren't even Machines, and have nothing to do with Scrap Recylcer. But I figured that Scrap Recycler was such a neat card that it should have something to go with it, too. And I thought about boosting the ATK up, but dumping 2 monsters is pretty good, considering the combo this card sets up: Normal Summon "Scrap Recycler" -> dump "Scrap Compactor" to the Graveyard -> (if there are 2 or more Level 4 EARTH Machine-Type monsters, return 2 to draw 1 card) -> Remove "Scrap Recycler" from play to Special Summon "Scrap Compactor" -> dump 2 "Machina Fortress" to the Graveyard -> drop cards to Special Summon "Machina Fortress" -> Remove any extra monsters for 1000 ATK -> Attack Yeah...so I figured that it didn't need the extra ATK, because it's pushing the line for being broken, IMO. Plus, Scrap Recycler has low ATK, so I decided to keep theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alordzynix Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 You are absolutely right, I had completely overlooked Machina Fortress which in my opinion is a too strong a card. For a better the type, such an effect would have been overpowered. Taking that card in mind 1700 seems verily recent. I'm going to give you another 0.5 making the total 9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 I personally feel it's a little OP'd, since it makes Recycler effectively a 2700 ATK monster you can Normal Summon for nothing, but with other choices and advantages such as the draw and Fortress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touzaikokon Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 I personally feel it's a little OP'd, since it makes Recycler effectively a 2700 ATK monster you can Normal Summon for nothing, but with other choices and advantages such as the draw and Fortress. See, I was feeling the 1700 base was a bit high myself. I actually started with 1500, and raised it from there. I am also considering letting it dump only 1 card, or having it dump a card only on Special Summons, or only on Normal Summons...I'm just not sure which option makes it useful enough, while not being broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alordzynix Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Fortress irritates this otherwise perfect card. I think if you change it to 1, it would be good enough of balance. Then what you essentially do is trade in your Scrap Recycler for a monster with 800 more ATK that can get 1000 ATK for your turn instead of you drawing a card. You don't get an extra discard because that was this card for Recycler. The only advantage you have is that you could have used recyclers effect for a draw, but I don't think that that 1 extra draw would make this card int top meta decks it wouldn't have been in otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touzaikokon Posted August 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Took your advice and cut it down to 1 dump from the Deck. I cut the ATK because 2700 seemed a bit much for what was essentially a free monster, but 2600 is still decent, and can run over a good number of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touzaikokon Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Is this card not interesting enough for more comments? At the very least, you could tell me what you want to see. In short: bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharc Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 This card is great! I personally run a Machina Mayhem with added cards, so this would fit right in. 11/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touzaikokon Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 This card is great! I personally run a Machina Mayhem with added cards, so this would fit right in. 11/10Really? What's your build like? I run a Machina build myself, but I'm trying to vary it up, so I'm looking for new ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharc Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Well, I combined it with parts from the Ancient Gear Structure deck (Really just some support, a second set of Gadgets, and the Gadjilatrons), B.E.S. Covered Core, and some other Machine supprot I forget because it's at my mom's house. I'll get back to you on that later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touzaikokon Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Good stuff. Why do you run B.E.S. Covered Core? Better yet, just PM me about it. This looks to be a good conversation. (Albeit, one unrelated to the thread). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touzaikokon Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Epic BUMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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