Last Guardswoman

[Jazin Kay]

[img]http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6524/67020.jpg[/img]

Battle Fader is so meh, but I like the idea. So I made it good.

[Legiit]

This card is way to OPED 5/10

[LRPXD]

The effect is a little confusing. But I can kinda understand it and I like it. The destroy 1 face-up card on the field is a little op'd but not so much. This card can negate attacks by discarding 1 card is pretty awsome.
Overall 9/10

[Legiit]

Well i kinda agree about the second part. i would love that effect. but the first effect is very cheap. Well in my old days i remember this old YCM site. dnt remember the address Link. But once my friend made a card, and Konami used that card and acually printed it. Konami Payed lots of money to him to print the card. It was such a Sight. I cant see to remember the card but all i know is it isnt so famous like Synchro's these days.

[Jazin Kay]

[quote name='Legiit' timestamp='1282804413' post='4566908']
Well i kinda agree about the second part. i would love that effect. but the first effect is very cheap. Well in my old days i remember this old YCM site. dnt remember the address Link. But once my friend made a card, and Konami used that card and acually printed it. Konami Payed lots of money to him to print the card. It was such a Sight. I cant see to remember the card but all i know is it isnt so famous like Synchro's these days.
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Forgive me for being a skeptic, but I've never heard of anything like this, short of that Tyler card; I doubt severely that your story is true.

[♥ ЅϯᵲåώӀӞ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ ♥]

[center][color="#9932CC"][b]Drop its ATK by a bit and it'll all be good.[/b][/color][/center]

[Jazin Kay]

[quote name='♥ ЅϯᵲåώӀӞ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ ♥' timestamp='1282806102' post='4566946']
[center][color="#9932CC"][b]Drop its ATK by a bit and it'll all be good.[/b][/color][/center]
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I don't see any problem with it's ATK, honestly. If it were 1900, then it could be an issue. You'd need to probably sync to get over it, early in the game.

It's funny how the line between "good" and "broken" in other players' eyes can be blamed on personal insecurity over their own play ability.

I'm not saying you suck for thinking some jank like this is OPed, I'm just making an observation. Thinking aloud, as it were. Forgive my own assessment from afar.

[poopybuttoxes]

The ATK should be 0 haha. Then [i]maybe[/i] it wouldnt be OPed. Maybe make it not tributable too.

[Jazin Kay]

[quote name='poopybuttoxes' timestamp='1282807050' post='4566960']
The ATK should be 0 haha. Then [i]maybe[/i] it wouldnt be OPed. Maybe make it not tributable too.
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Why wouldn't I let it be tribute-able? That's terrible.

Why won't YCM let me make good cards? [/emo]

Let me ask you a hypothetical question: can you defeat this card?

[poopybuttoxes]

Its too easy man. Battle fodder is good because its "tribute-able" and stops the battle phase. Your card gets special summoned with 1800 ATK. Thats enough. If you take away all the other effects it would still be a good card. Say the opponent attacks directly. He/she has 1 monster. You special your card, destroy his monster. He ends. Thats a potential game winning combo. You look at gorz. Yea its not banned, but it should be. If you had 3 of these and 1 gorz you wouldnt need traps, cause you would be taking over the field on your opponents turn.

[Scyire]

So, like a Gorz, but way too good?
Needs some sort of drawback.
2/5

[Jazin Kay]

[quote name='poopybuttoxes' timestamp='1282807508' post='4566967']
Its too easy man. Battle fodder is good because its "tribute-able" and stops the battle phase. Your card gets special summoned with 1800 ATK. Thats enough. If you take away all the other effects it would still be a good card. Say the opponent attacks directly. He/she has 1 monster. You special your card, destroy his monster. He ends. Thats a potential game winning combo. You look at gorz. Yea its not banned, but it should be. If you had 3 of these and 1 gorz you wouldnt need traps, cause you would be taking over the field on your opponents turn.
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I'm ignoring your situation example because it's anecdotal, which makes it moot.

Battle Fader is only good because he ends the battle phase. My card does not. Tributability has nothing to do with this.

I felt popping a single card and providing a tiny muscle is sound replacement for stopping huge attacks. My card's own attack negation is just a cherry.

Now, if you can point out how I can completely devalue a duel with 3 of these cards, let me know. Because if I could, it would have already been done to the meta by Battle Fader.

I think you're scared of this card.

[Turmoil]

First thing that came to mind was Gorz.
Reasons why it's better than Gorz (which is already limited)
- You prevent the direct attack damage
- You can have spell or trap cards on the field
- you destroy a face up card on the field which could be youro pponents monster
- it activates from hand (evenif ur opponent cleared the field his attempted OTK could be f***ed)
- 4 star
Reasons why it's not better:
- less atk
- dosesnt summon a token

wow.this is op'd

[Jazin Kay]

[quote name='Nelly Rock' timestamp='1282807917' post='4566974']
First thing that came to mind was Gorz.
Reasons why it's better than Gorz (which is already limited)
- You prevent the direct attack damage
- You can have spell or trap cards on the field
- you destroy a face up card on the field
- 4 star
Reasons why it's not better:
- less atk
- dosesnt summon a token

wow.this is op'd
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You're comparing this to Gorz. That's fail in itself.

Gorz is a completely different card.%

[Turmoil]

Why would it be limited otherwise? Gorz is very versatile

[poopybuttoxes]

[quote name='Jazin Kay' timestamp='1282808098' post='4566977']
You're comparing this to Gorz. That's fail in itself.
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Dude, your card is OPed. Stop trying to get around it. People rarely have more than 2 monster on the field, and destroying the monster stops the battle phase. Plus you get free 1800 ATK summon, and about half the monsters in most peoples decks cant get around 1800 ATK. Just accept it and move on.

[Jazin Kay]

[quote name='Nelly Rock' timestamp='1282808219' post='4566980']
Why would it be limited otherwise? Gorz is very versatile
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Who's talking about limitation?

Gorz is quite versatile, yes. But how is he comparable to this card?

That's like dissing Dig Beak because he's better than Thousand-Eyes Idol.

[quote name='poopybuttoxes' timestamp='1282808306' post='4566982']
Dude, your card is OPed. Stop trying to get around it. People rarely have more than 2 monster on the field, and destroying the monster stops the battle phase. Plus you get free 1800 ATK summon, and about half the monsters in most peoples decks cant get around 1800 ATK. Just accept it and move on.
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It's not. My experience and understanding of player choice, ability, and our meta says otherwise. If you're speaking with yours, it only says you fear good cards.

You're the one crying that my card doesn't suck in some way, even though there are loads of ways this card isn't able to ban itself because you can't think outside an average duelist's box. You get over it.

[Scyire]

Dude, run this in an Infernity deck and thats just way to overpowered to speak.
NEEDS A DRAWBACK

[Jazin Kay]

[quote name='Scyire' timestamp='1282808470' post='4566987']
Dude, run this in an Infernity deck and thats just way to overpowered to speak.
NEEDS A DRAWBACK
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Low ATK? Discard cards you'd rather use to stop it's butt from being hit?

Why would I run this in Infernity? I'd have an empty hand that I used to fuel the grave or set by the time I'd bother to summon this.

If anything, I'd stick this in a Monarch build. Best way to "abuse" this is tribute it, anyway. Or toss a Treeborn Frog to stop it from dying, that'd be ok too. But I'd still feel better running Battle Fader over this girl. You know, cuz stopping a whole battle phase rules balls.

Jeez, it's like when that children's bookstore used to hold tournies, in here. Lol.

[Turmoil]

Gorz special summons itself from hand when you are hit WHEN your field is totally EMPTY. This special summons itself from hand when they're ABOUT to be hit, thats already better than Gorz with no drawback on the field other than monsters.
and thats why i compare it to gorz

May I also point out another thing: It's a sakuretsu armor from hand, which also SUMMONS A monster. not that sakuretsu armor really is that good, but just pointing out. it cant be removed by field removal, only hand destruction which is kind of rare to see in a top meta deck

You know one of the most common ways someone wins? they wipe out their field which they probably used lots of cards to get out, then end up having to topdeck. run this card in 3's and bam thats a very easy problem to solve. I mean, I wouldn't even NORMAL summon it. I would just wait for my opponent to attack me

LOLATK is no factor, you may leave it as it is.

And you're allowed to make OP'd cards. But you're just not accepting the fact that it IS OP'd.

[Jazin Kay]

[quote name='Nelly Rock' timestamp='1282808742' post='4566992']
Gorz special summons itself from hand when you are hit WHEN your field is totally EMPTY. This special summons itself from hand when they're ABOUT to be hit, thats already better than Gorz with no drawback on the field other than monsters.
and thats why i compare it to gorz
[b]That's still kinda stupid. A better logic would compare Tragoedia to Gorz, since that makes a little more sense. And Tragoedia and Gorz are delicious, so there's more connection for ya. Even if that's just opinion talking, there.
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May I also point out another thing: It's a sakuretsu armor from hand, which also SUMMONS A monster. not that sakuretsu armor really is that good, but just pointing out. it cant be removed by field removal, only hand destruction which is kind of rare to see in a top meta deck
[b]It negates attacks. It doesn't blow up monsters, specifically. This =/= Sakuretsu Armor.[/b]

You know one of the most common ways someone wins? they wipe out their field which they probably used lots of cards to get out, then end up having to topdeck. run this card in 3's and bam thats a very easy problem to solve. I mean, I wouldn't even NORMAL summon it. I would just wait for my opponent to attack me
[b]Inorite, people should totally run 3 Battle Faders in everything, since that card is even better for that purpose. Oh, wait.[/b]

LOLATK is no factor, you may leave it as it is.
[b]One note I will thank you for.[/b]
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[Turmoil]

Tragoedia is very comparable to Gorz, yes. But no more comparable than Gorz is to this card. Because Tragoedia can Summon itself fromthe hand when you take BATTLE damage, not just direct attacks. What gorz and this card have in common is that they can be both be summoned when your opponent is about todeclare a direct attack ( except gorz you have to take the direct attack damage to summon it, therfore you can't save yourself from a game-ending attack with him, which with this card, you can )

Face-up card, an attacking monster. ??????????????????????????????????? and yea not specifically, could even be a continous spell or trap or field card, and thats just a bonus.

on this last one you're kinda right, but it's way better than a battle fader tho even though it doesnt end the whole battlefase

[poopybuttoxes]

Dude, everyone likes good cards, but you have to think of the greater good. After all these people trying to get to you and you still arent reasoning then theres no point on me continuing.

Its OPed. Period.

[Jazin Kay]

[quote name='poopybuttoxes' timestamp='1282809585' post='4567008']
Dude, everyone likes good cards, but you have to think of the greater good. After all these people trying to get to you and you still arent reasoning then theres no point on me continuing.

Its OPed. Period.
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And I also gave reasoning. Logic, even. The babies who scream that this is OPed are as ignorant and afraid to reason as I am perceived to be. in b4 comparison to religion.

All I see here is umad.jpg. It's not OPed. Period.

[Lil' Foxy]

yes, this card is OPed. and you should accept that. all you need to do is put 1 drawback on it and it would be a good card. i suggest that you have to give lifepoints to summon this or something else, it really doesnt matter what the drawback is as long as you put on in.
5/10