Will the World End in 2012?

[MortalKombatSmoke]

Some people say that the Mayan Calendar proves the doomsday date is December 21st, 2012.


Do you think this is correct?


Is the Mayan Calendar Correct? Are we over looking another explanation for why the calendar ends? Or is it complete BS?

[CrabHelmet]

The calendar on my wall says that the world will end after 31 December 2010. There's no days left after that!

[Aesirson]

The world will obviously end in 1954 because that's when Godzilla comes and kicks our a$$es.

[Βyakuya]

Another of these threads...

I'm just going to laugh when it happens.

[Frybread002]

Umm...Well, since the Mayan were Native Americans, and I too am a Native American, I'm sure that I can provide some insight onto that:

Well one of the theories surrounding that calender, is that it's ending it's cycle. It has a begining, and an end. So far, we are currently about to approach it's end. But that is the part that allures many people. As they think it means the end of this period of humanity, or if it just means the end of the calender's cycle.

In short, I can only give you my personal opinion, and you also got to ask yourself what you beleive.

P.S. The Native American tribe known as the Hopi also have a simalar beleif

[Yasu]

[acronym='Not a bad thing, actually.']DECEMBER 21, 2012 WILL BE THE FIRST DAY OF THE 14TH BAKTUN! RUN![/acronym] D:D:D:

[Bahamut - Envoy of the End]

December 21st? Damn it that's three days before my birthday!!!

As for the answer to your original question, no. Just no.

There would have been a MONUMENTAL change in the world's climate, etc in the 900 days for life to be unsustainable here, so unless something came completely out of nowhere like a meteor or something then we're ok.

December 2112 and I might have a different opinion.

[Alexis Rhodes]

No no it will not.

End of discussion and topic/

[Yasu]

[i]I'll spoil you so you can just move out and make interesting threads D:<[/i]

The Maya calendar uses these things called "B'ak'tun", 1 B'ak'tun is equivalent to 394.3 solar years, the count started on 3112 b.c I believe.

By December 21st 2012, the 13th ba'ak'tun will have ended ((394.3x13)-(3112)=[acronym='Last days of 2012 ._. ']2012[/acronym]). Which [b]only[/b] means the 14th b'ak'tun will start, nothing more, nothing less.

They didn't predicted anything, their only error was thinking people would have enough common sense to figure it out.

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayan_calendar#Long_Count"]If you actually want to learn...[/url]

[Bahamut - Envoy of the End]

One more point. Hasn't the date of doomsday been predicted to be x day, x month x year about eight times in the last 100 years?

And how many of them have been right?

[Cozmosus]

If you would, allow me to post some facts:


Solar Maximum will peak 2012
NASA researchers announced that a storm is coming--the most intense solar maximum in fifty years. The prediction comes from a team led by Mausumi Dikpati of the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). "The next sunspot cycle will be 30% to 50% stronger than the previous one," she says. If correct, the years ahead could produce a burst of solar activity second only to the historic Solar Max of 1958.
(Source #1 - NASA CONFIRMED FACT)


Mayan Calendar
This is one of the main cornerstones of the 2012 theories. To keep it short the Mayan calendar mysteriously ends on Dec 12, 2012. You can find numerous web sights to back this up which I wont bother to list here.
Note - The Mayan Calendar ends in 2012 winter solstice. According to the US Navy, the winter solstice will occur at 11:11UT Dec 21, 2012. There's a entire separate strange 11:11 phenomenon to add to the oddity that year

The Incas', Dogon(Africa)'s, and Aztecs' calendars also end in 2012


What is remarkable with the Mayan Calender, is that they have successfully pointed out every major war -- from America's Revolutionary War, to Civil Wars, even the cultural movements in he 1960s.

But the major point, is, that the Mayans wrote that on 11:11, December 21st, 2012, the Earth, the Sun, and the black hole at the Center of the Milkeyway, will be aligned on that date. THEY WERE RIGHT.

This Galactic Alignment occurs only once every 26,000 years, and was what the ancient Maya were pointing to with the 2012 end-date of their Long Count calendar.
#2 Source for more info


Nostradamus
Nostradamus prophecies have endured the test of time, and a recent book has been found that pertains to 2012.
See Source #3 for the Nostradamus video (in four parts)


Cherokee Calendar
In the year 2004 and 2012 an alignment will take place both on the Cherokee Calendar and in the heavens of the Rattlesnake Constellation both. It is the time of the doublehead serpent stick. It is the time of the Red of Orion and Jupiter against White Blue of Pleadies and Venus. It is the time of the Uku's choosing. It is the time of the Beloved Woman and MYSTERIES OF TIME UNTIME. It is the Time Untime of the THUNDERBOLT and the spirits of Lightning Mountains.
(Source #4)


The Hopi Indians of Arizona believe that we are living in the fourth of five eras - the Fourth World, and there will be a “Great Purification” just before the start of the Fifth World. They have a series of nine prophecies, starting with the coming of white men with guns, (which came true in the sixteenth century). The eighth prophecy is the hippie era, which was manifested in the nineteen sixties. The only remaining prophecy to be fulfilled is the appearance of a new star that they call Blue Star Kachina.

Speaking Wind, a Pueblo Indian from Northern New Mexico, has said that the Fifth World will start in December 2012. This conforms to Hopi Indian prophecies, even though some have put the transition at 2011.
(source #5)


Great Pyramid (stone calendar)
The 'calendar in stone' of the Great Pyramid, describes the so-called Phoenix Cycle of our galactic orbit, the present time period ends (converted to our present calendar) in the year 2012 AD. The Greek word Phoenix, derived from the Egyptian word, Pa-Hanok, actually means, The House of Enoch."
(source #6)


Hindu Calendar
Golden Age will start 5,000 years after the beginning of the Kali Yuga, and will last for 10,000 years. Based on Hindu calendars today is about 5100 solar years from the time when the Kali Yuga started. Golden Age could happen in 2012.
(Source #7)


The Great Cross of Hendaye (French: Croix d'Hendaye) is a stone cross located on the town square of Hendaye, in the Pyrénées-Atlantiques, in southwestern France.
The following article attempts to tie the Cross to 2012:

The inspiration for this article comes from my almost nineteen years of research into the Great Cross of Hendaye and the French alchemist Fulcanelli. The unknown, anonymous, alchemist Fulcanelli in his masterpiece The Mysteries of the Cathedrals first brought the cross at Hendaye, France to the world’s attention.
(source #8


The shamans in Peru tell us that we are approaching the Pacha Cuti, which means, literally ‘the world turned upside down’. They say that it will arrive in the year 2012
(Source #9)


Bible Code 2012
comet large - stone-like / stony : object - sped / Tongue-like : Sun - whole earth / earth annihilated - smitten / stricken - smitten Planetary / wanderer : fragmentary : sixty mile - blunderbuss / scatter-gun / Crater : Canada : ultimate : terrifying : appalling : lethal / Modifier - mantle - axis - tilting - tipping : Speeded / Seismic - eradication - It will be crumbled / I will tear to pieces
(Source #10 & #11)



Numerology
The galactic center of the galaxy is 26 degrees 54 minutes Sagittarius. It approaches 27 degrees 0 minutes in the year 2010. In the year 2012 the galactic center is 27 degrees and 1 minute. In Numerology (27+1)=10=1+0=1 = New Beginnings.
(Source #12 & #13)


Terrance McKenna's Time Wave theory
In that theory, the year 2012 is called "Time Wave Zero." McKenna took the I Ching, did some kind of mathematical fractal operation with it, and produced a computer program which supposedly produces a "time wave" which maps out something called "novelty" across the scale of time, from the Big Bang to the Eschaton, the ending of time. And guess what? The mapping of time mysteriously ends at 2012. The Omega point.
(Source #14)



Remote Viewing
Tibetan Monks are using Remote Viewing to predict the future. Between now and 2012 the world super powers will continue to engage in regional wars. Terrorism and covert war will be the main problem. In world politics something will happen in and around 2010. At that time the world powers will threaten to destroy each other. Between 2010 and 2012, the whole world will get polarized and prepare for the ultimate dooms day. Heavy political maneuvers and negotiations will take place with little progress. In 2012, the world will start plunging into a total destructive nuclear war. And at that time something remarkable will happen, says, Buddhist monk of Tibet. Supernatural divine powers will intervene. The destiny of the world is not to self-destruct at this time.
(Source #15, #16, & #17)


Prophecy of the Popes
The Prophecy of the Popes, attributed to Saint Malachy, is a list of 112 short phrases in Latin. They purport to describe each of the Roman Catholic popes (along with a few anti-popes), beginning with Pope Celestine II (elected in 1143) and concluding with a later added pope described in the prophecy as "Peter the Roman", whose pontificate will end in the destruction of the city of Rome. The current Pope - Benedict XVI, is the 111 of 112 on the list, which can be interpreted that the end is near.
(Source #19)


Polar Shift
A pole shift theory is a hypothesis that the axis of rotation of a planet has not always been at its present-day locations or that the axis will not persist there; in other words, that its physical poles had been or will be shifted.

Theories include:
- Ice mass at one or both poles over-accumulates which destabilizes the earth's rotational balance, causing slippage of all or much of earth's outer crust around the earth's core
- A high-velocity asteroid or comet which hits Earth at such an angle that the lithosphere moves independent of the mantle
- A high-velocity asteroid or comet which hits Earth at such an angle that the entire planet shifts axis.
- An unusually magnetic celestial object which passes close enough to Earth to temporarily reorient the magnetic field, which then “drags” the lithosphere about A new axis of rotation. Eventually, the sun's magnetic field again determines the Earth's, after the intruding celestial object “returns” to a location from which it cannot influence Earth.
- Perturbations of the topography of the core-mantle boundary, perhaps induced by differential core rotation and shift of its axial rotation vector, leading to CMB mass redistributions. See, e.g., Bowin.
- Mass redistributions in the mantle from mantle avalanches or other deformations. See, e.g., Ladbury, and Steinberger and O'Connell.
(Source #20)


Pandemic - Bird Flu
Health officials around the world agree that a pandemic of influenza is overdue, and they are most worried by the H5N1 strain of avian influenza that has been spreading through flocks from Asia to Africa.
(Source #21)

UFO/Crop Circle Sightings/Planet X
Again the websites are numerous...with some indicating 2012 is when Aliens will make their presence known.
(Source #22, #23, & #24)


Web Bots Project
A system of spiders, agents, and wanderers travel the Internet, much like a search engine robot, and look for particular kinds of words. It targets discussion groups, translation sites, and places were regular people post a lot of text. The web bot technology apparently taps in to an area of precognition awareness. The Web Bot Program claims to already have numerous successful predictions and supposedly the bot program also predicts a worldwide calamity taking place in the year 2012.
(Source #25 & #26)

Planet X, aka Nibiru is not a "planet", but an unborn star called a "Brown Dwarf". It is in our Solar System (just outside Pluto).
What we are in, is called a Binary System (actually, if we were NOT a binary system, we would be the first, since EVERY star you see in the sky, usually has a partner star; Sol is no different), where we have our Sun, and another star past the Kuiper Belt.
Every 3600 years, this star swings Jupiter, causing massive tidal and magnetic effects on the earth and sun.
3600 years ago, the plagues were caused on Egypt. The Egyptian Bible documents that it was a massive object that came out of the sky and caused the plagues. 3600 years before that, a massive flood hit the earth (every Ancient Culture, from the Jews to the Summarians, to the Native Americans, to the Mayans, have a record of this flood).
Now, the star will arrive again in 2012.

This "planet x" was discovered years ago, and an article was even put out by nasa, but was later withdrawn.

Never before in History, has the same date come up so many times, by so many different cultures.
I will post my scources later, because it's not letting me post them all right now.

[CrabHelmet]

[quote name='Matt Bahamut' timestamp='1283378301' post='4590035']
One more point. Hasn't the date of doomsday been predicted to be x day, x month x year about eight times in the last 100 years?

And how many of them have been right?
[/quote]
I was shocked that 2008 never saw a twentieth anniversary reprint of [i]88 Reasons the Rapture Will Be in 1988[/i].

[-Resistance-]

Why in the world do people keep going on about this sh*t!
Its just another effin theory like Y2K and 2006!
[spoiler=Some opinions] hat world is it? In order to answer this question, we must infer that the questioner means earth and surrounding areas. However, some are taught esoterically that the world comes and goes in history with no permanent creation or destruction. To say the world ends means no preservation exists eternally. Yet many religions have different beliefs and to say one has preference over the other means one is a member of that belief. I prefer the going and coming of lower world preservation times. It could end tomorrow and begin the next day, but in a permanent ending, I do not believe. Consciousness of the Self as an individual spiritual divine spark is eternal no matter what form one is in whether spiritual or manifest. Religions and philosophies place great limitations upon one, whereas freedom of spirit always has been for all outside these binding (meaning of religion) influences.
The world will end when no one expects it, when Jesus comes to earth, he will take the people who served him on one side, the other on the other, then he will take the good people up to Heaven and the rest will die while the earth is destroyed, no one knows when though, and don't worry about it, don't freak out.
Although the date December 20, 2012 sticks out according to the predictions of Nostradamus (many of his works were coded), the Aztec calendar (nothing on their calendar is recorded after this) and people such as Edgar Casey, this date does keep coming up. The truth ... no one knows when the world is going to end.. Since I was a little girl growing up in the 1940's to date there was always this controversy that the world was going to end soon. So far it hasn't, but, we all have to participate in keeping our planet clean and replacing what we take (if we can) and the worst danger of all is over population of the world. This leads to less and less space and an imbalance of nature.
It is speculated that the world will most likely end in the year 2012. The Mayan calendar is a system of measurement that has been accurate within seconds for thousands of years. Most of the predictions that were made by the race were correct. In the year 2012 the Mayan calendar ceases completely. There is argument over whether the world will actually end or if it will be similar to an ecological new beginning. In other words, something akin to hitting the reset button.This is purely theory, and cannot be proven at this point.
Jesus said no one but the Father knows.
According to scientists many people believe that the world will end on Dec. 21, 2012. That's the end of the Mayan calendar and most of the predictions were correct but nobody really knows when the world will end. The world will end unexpectedly like a thief in the night as said in the Bible "You shall not know the date nor the time."
No one really knows. There are people with signs walking down pedestrian areas in cities that say they know, and occasionally someone will give a date and say it comes from God, but in the scriptures (if you are religious) it tells us that no man knows the hour. We'll probably figure it out before it happens... but not by much. And if you aren't religious, the answer is the same... who knows when we'll blow ourselves up with scary man-made bombs or the next pandemic will come. The best thing we can do is live the best we can and not worry about things that we can't control.
It will end 2012 December 21st. it said before Jesus was born on calenders
People aren't sure. You will know when it is going to happen, though.
End of the world - December 21, 2012
Apocalyptic predictions 2012 is sometimes claimed to be a great year of spiritual transformation (or apocalypse). Many esoteric sources interpret the completion of the twelfth B'ak'tun cycle in the Long Count of the Maya calendar (which occurs on December 21 by the most widely held correlation) to mean there will be a major change in world order.
Accordingly, several eclectic authors claim that a major, world-changing event will take place in the year 2012:
The 1995 book The Mayan Prophecies linked the Mayan calendar with long-period sunspot cycles.
The book claims the Maya may have been instructed in their wisdom by discarnate entities from Orion and the Pleiades. Contact was maintained through shamanic rituals conducted in accordance with the movements of planets and stars.
The 1997 book "The Bible Code" claims that, according to certain algorithms of the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid or comet will collide with the Earth.
The book "The Nostradamus Code" speaks of a series of natural disasters caused by a comet (possibly as above) which will allow the third Antichrist to disperse his troops around the globe under the guise of aid in preparation for a possible nuclear war, although in the strictest sense it is unspecific as to nuclear war or some other natural or man caused destruction.

The book "The Orion Prophecy" claims that the Earth's magnetic field will reverse.

The 2005 book "Beyond 2012: Catastrophe or Ecstasy" by Geoff Stray reviews several theories, prophecies and predictions concerning 2012 and finds where authors have used faulty information or have bent the truth to fit their theories.
The 2006 book "2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl" by Daniel Pinchbeck discusses theories of a possible global awakening to psychic connection by the year 2012, creating a noosphere. It also discusses many other aspects of the 2012 phenomenon from a neutral perspective.
Other prophecies and apocalyptic writings and hypotheses for this year include:
Terence McKenna's mathematical novelty theory suggests a point of singularity in which a great number of things could happen, including "hyperspatial breakthrough", planetesimal impact, alien contact, historical metamorphosis, metamorphosis of natural law, solar explosion, quasar ignition at the galactic core, or nothing.
The Prophecy of the Popes, attributed to Saint Malachy, speculated that Pope Benedict XVI would reign during the beginning of the tribulation of which Jesus spoke, and sometime later a future pope described in the prophecy as "Peter the Roman", the last in this prophetic list, would appear, bringing as a result the destruction of the city of Rome and the Last Judgment.
Many new age spiritualists and philosophers ("new-agers") believe humankind will enter an age of enlightenment in 2012. There are a range of varying, generally positive, beliefs shared by a subset of spiritualists from the mundane to exceptional - including a positive social shift and age of peace, mankind becoming psychic and connected by a collective, and/or an evolution of the human race into non-corporeal beings made of "spiritual" energy, or light energy, i.e. 'ascension'.
Some alien-enthusiasts, along with some new-agers, believe 2012 to correspond approximately with the return of alien "watchers" or "caretakers" who might have helped the first human civilizations with developing their technology and may have been waiting for us to reach a higher level of technological and/or social advancement. Beliefs range from the extra-terrestrials having benevolent purposes - such as to help human society evolve - to malevolent purposes - such as enslavement of mankind and/or manipulation.
The Nepalese ascetic Ram Bahadur Bomjon, the so-called "Buddha boy", reportedly told his followers that he would return around 2012.
Some proponents of a peak oil catastrophe place major events in 2012. Richard C. Duncan's book "The Peak of World Oil Production" and "The Road To The Olduvai Gorge" claims that the Olduvai cliff will begin and permanent blackouts will occur worldwide. Several studies predict a peak in oil production in or around 2012.
The end of the world, The world will end in our hands. Soon we will turn ourselves into monsters as we are beginning to. Soon the world will lose its' humane self and rot. World War III is coming. United states is losing it's seat in being the World Power. Eager people are waiting to get their hands on NUKE and send them. For our sake, I hope the world does not end and it will not end, for it is only the beginning.
According to scientists: about 6 billion years from now
Nobody knows except the person that created the earth itself
Many people have tried and will continue trying to derive the date of the end of the world. However, the plain and simple truth is that no one can really know for sure.
That's for God to decide. No one knows for sure, only God!
This question is practically unanswerable. There are many beliefs that the world will one day end (most commonly known as judgment day). But how or when it will end depends on the religion or faith that people follow/believe in.
Some people believe that the world will not end, go on until the end of time, although that is a paradox within itself since there is not "the end of time" if they believe the world will not end!
From the Islam religion, the only information that is given is that when The Day Of Judgment -Yawm al 8iyama, literally meaning the day of the rising- does happen, it will be on a Friday.
Half way through the year 2830 the world (planet Earth) will implode.
Nobody really knows, there are several spiritual, religious and scientific theories of how the world will end and when, several times in the past there have been predictions of when the world will end, like the years 1000, 2000 and in the future, 2012. Scientifically though planet earth will be consumed when the sun grows to a red giant in a couple of billion years or so, whether or not humans are still around remains to be seen, more than likely we will either be extinct, evolved into another lifeform or no longer live on earth.
2012 The Mayan's were great with numbers. Even NASA has said something big is going to happen in the year 2012. but truthfully, nobody in this world knows when the world is going to end. And You should not be worried about that now. It does not matter.
It says in The Bible that when Jesus, our Savior, comes back, as He promised us before He went to Heaven, then the Earth might possibly end from all sorts of natural disasters. But truthfully, nobody except God knows. But as I stated earlier, it depends on which religion you believe in. Since not everyone follows The Bible.
No one can ever know or predict the exact day when the universe will end, because this God hid from us, and never revealed such information to any human being. Whoever predicts a date is certainly a liar.[/spoiler]
[spoiler=2nd reason it will not end] No.

The only reason why people say that it would is because some Mayan calendar ends in that year (actually 2012). People used to say that all computers were gonna fail in the year 2000 but it didn't. Some people are even saying there will be a zombie apocalypse but please do not start panicking, its just rumours . Hope i helped.


Other Answer

No

Because it is 2010 & yet i do not see anything exploding!
Ok Bye!

other answer

i cant say it will not end also i cant say if it is but it may could happen all the whether and other stuff you may not see it but it could happen people are just make things up or theri just trying to scare you dont lisen to them at all about it we will see when 2012 comes than we will see



No because it is not true[/spoiler]
[spoiler=More] Scientifically, no. Not until another 5 billion years when the sun burns out, but who knows what we will end up building to survive through that. I'm guessin' underground chambers. [/spoiler]
If your catholic and you read the bible,then you must know that God promised never again to wipe out humans.
Even if aliens come,we got weapons.And they also cant wipe out humans.
Mayans also think that it will be a [b]NEW ERA[/b]
Critics of these proposals argue that while the collective knowledge of humanity could possibly predict terrorist attacks, stock market crashes or other human-caused events, there is no way it could predict something like an earthquake or the end of the world.
Yes the end is coming, but all human predictions are wrong!

Mathew 24:35-36 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone." Jesus Christ.

http://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm
There im done for now

[Yasu]

[quote name='Ed00001' timestamp='1283379332' post='4590123']
If you would, allow me to post some facts:


Solar Maximum will peak 2012
NASA researchers announced that a storm is coming--the most intense solar maximum in fifty years. The prediction comes from a team led by Mausumi Dikpati of the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). "The next sunspot cycle will be 30% to 50% stronger than the previous one," she says. If correct, the years ahead could produce a burst of solar activity second only to the historic Solar Max of 1958.
(Source #1 - NASA CONFIRMED FACT)
[/quote]

Are your referring to this? http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2006/21dec_cycle24/
Well, this one is newer, like, by [b]2 years[/b]. http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2009/29may_noaaprediction/
It says the peak in this solar cycle will be lower than average (similar to the 1928, illustrated here)

[img]http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2009/05/29/29may_noaaprediction_resources/maunderminimum.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Ed00001' timestamp='1283379332' post='4590123']
Mayan Calendar
This is one of the main cornerstones of the 2012 theories. To keep it short the Mayan calendar mysteriously ends on Dec 12, 2012. You can find numerous web sights to back this up which I wont bother to list here.
Note - The Mayan Calendar ends in 2012 winter solstice. According to the US Navy, the winter solstice will occur at 11:11UT Dec 21, 2012. There's a entire separate strange 11:11 phenomenon to add to the oddity that year

The Incas', Dogon(Africa)'s, and Aztecs' calendars also end in 2012


What is remarkable with the Mayan Calender, is that they have successfully pointed out every major war -- from America's Revolutionary War, to Civil Wars, even the cultural movements in he 1960s.

But the major point, is, that the Mayans wrote that on 11:11, December 21st, 2012, the Earth, the Sun, and the black hole at the Center of the Milkeyway, will be aligned on that date. THEY WERE RIGHT.

This Galactic Alignment occurs only once every 26,000 years, and was what the ancient Maya were pointing to with the 2012 end-date of their Long Count calendar.
#2 Source for more info
[/quote]

The "long count" calendar was pretty much the same for everybody.
But I've never heard about them predicting all those events 0.0.

About the planets alignment issue; there's nothing paranormal about astrology, Mayans and Aztecs were known for being highly advanced on the field.

Besides, the Mayans saw the start of a cycle as a good thing.

[quote name='Ed00001' timestamp='1283379332' post='4590123']
Hindu Calendar
Golden Age will start 5,000 years after the beginning of the Kali Yuga, and will last for 10,000 years. Based on Hindu calendars today is about 5100 solar years from the time when the Kali Yuga started. Golden Age could happen in 2012.
(Source #7)
[/quote]
Golden?
Kihihihihihihi.


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About prophecies; the more ambiguous a prophecy is, the more likely it will be "right", like some kind of cold reading, lol.

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Or you could just Google search "2014 end of the world" "2000 end of the world", etc.
Teehee.

[Dark]

[quote name='Crab Helmet' timestamp='1283367868' post='4589093']
The calendar on my wall says that the world will end after 31 December 2010. There's no days left after that!
[/quote]

Oh. The calenders I get are two-year, so I guess [i]my[/i] world ends during 2011. Eh, see you, Crab. :/

So, let's recap.

Year 0, Year 2000, Year 2008

I'm most likely missing a [b]ton[/b], but I always remember those off-hand.

What happened during the year 0? ...nothing.
What happened during Y2K? ...nothing, except a [b]few[/b] computer failures globally.
What happened during 2008? ...nothing.

So, what's going to happen during 2012? Nothing.

Also, just to point out, the Mayans ended their calender on 21 December 2012. That doesn't mean they explicitly stated the world will end. Maybe they thought it was a dawn of a new age, since there was the celestial lineup. They were big on astonomy, and there is no way a celestial lineup can be attributed to the end of the world.

I was watching some History Channel, and the [i]nearest possible thing[/i] we have to global wipeout is soon, but not probable. Basically, our magnetic poles have to switch after every few thousand years. During the few hour or few day period of this switch, we are completely vulnerable to solar wind. So, if there is a large solar flare, we have no magnetic shield to direct it to the poles (no auroras, sadface). And thus, we could all die.

But scientists don't even know when our magnetic poles will switch. It could be in a month, it could be in three hundred years.

If any religion person would like to worry about Revelation or Shiva or whatever, I suggest you move your date from 2012 to a few million years from now, where the chances of us being hit by an asteroid or the sun expanding so that we die of heat (although that is moreso billions than millions) are heightened.

[Ice.]

o no, da mayens ehndid da kalendar sow wii muhst dy.

Complete utter bullshit. I feel sorry for all of the people that believe this.

[.Starrk]

The end of the mayan calender predicts a new era. Not the end of the world.

[CrabHelmet]

In addition to Ed00001's problems with linking to his sources (presumably, YCM no longer allows the typing of URLs somehow), everything he lists suffers from one or more of the following problems:

[b]1)[/b] It's outright false - for example, see Hakurei Reimu on the NASA thing.

[b]2)[/b] The surface logic makes no sense - for example, even if the NASA thing were true, if 1958's solar flare was stronger, shouldn't the world already have ended fifty years ago? I don't want to delve into solipsism, but it looks like it's still here to me. and what about the galactic alignment thing? I know Disney's Hercules teaches us that planets lining up makes the Titans climb out of a hole in the sea, but really... And how about the bird flu answer? Did the world end in the mid-fourteenth century when the black plague spread through Europe? It was much worse than the bloody bird flu, occurred in an era of drastically inferior medicine, and it still wiped out only half the population.

[b]3)[/b] King Croesus of Lydia asked the Oracle of Delphi what the result would be if he took his troops across the Halys River and attacked the Persians. Her answer was, "If you do, a great empire will be destroyed." The seer didn't specify which great empire. In the end, it was Croesus' kingdom, not Persia, that was destroyed, but the seer would have been "right" either way. In this case, in the same manner, it relies on previously "successful" prophesies that worked because they were vague enough that they could have been interpreted after the fact as being fulfilled. Psychologists have found that people, after taking a hundred-question personality test and then being given a description of their personality based on their answers, tend to rate the results' accuracy as an average of 4.25/5... even though the results were determined in advance and weren't influenced by the subject's answers at all. The same principle applies here; if you squint properly, all prophesies are true. The best example is probably the "social movements" one. That's right, the Mayans apparently predicted hippies, LSD, and rock music. Sure.

[b]4)[/b] It's just outright insane - for example, the numerology entry. Yeah, I'm sure the system of measuring angles in degrees and minutes was set up the way it was by God Himself so that applying numerological transformations to the degrees and minutes (but not seconds for some arbitrary reason) of this angle produces a total of 1. It couldn't possibly just be a completely random number that was chosen to apply numerology to because it produced a nice result, and the result must obviously be a prophesy and not just simple probability at work - the numerological transformations can only produce nine different results, so if you look at a few numbers you're bound to find something nice. (The next post after this one will be #19. 19=1+9=10=1+0=1=END OF THE WORLD!)

[b]5)[/b] It relies on a failure to observe the world - for example, the Remote Viewing entry. America lost points with the world under Bush, but in the last several years, not much has really changed. If the superpowers were going to destroy each other, or even threaten to do so, they'd have done it eight years ago. And how about that polar shift theory predicting that too much ice will pile up? Does the phrase "Global Warming" ring a bell?

[b]6)[/b] They're mutually incompatible. The idea behind providing thirty reasons the world will end in 2012 should be that, together, everything fits neatly together into an irrefutable argument regarding what will happen. However, instead we have a whole bunch of reasons that contradict each other and don't work together at all, which, rather than supporting the 2012=END argument, actually undermines it by revealing how weak each of the reasons really is. How will the world end? Will it be solar flares, polar dysfunction, disease, war, cosmic alignment shenanigans, or alien invasion? It can't be all of them, unless you expect us to believe that we'll have a world was while dying of disease during an alien invasion induced by the black hole in the centre of the galaxy shooting a laser beam through the sun into our planet. So which one is real, if any? And even if one of them were real, wouldn't that mean that every single other explanation was completely wrong and just happened to indicate 2012 by sheer coincidence? Doesn't admitting that such a coincidence must be possible even for the 2012=END theory to be correct undermine the entire argument? And how do we know it will end? We've got a bunch of different vague prophesies from a lot of religions, from the Aztecs (who also thought the world would end if they stopped sacrificing people) to Catholics to Hindus. If their prediction is correct, then they must have real prophetic power - but the various faiths have completely different and mutually-incompatible beliefs, which means that they can't all be right, so most of them are going to be wrong, so their prophesies have no real divine basis, so their predictions of 2012 were nothing more than chance and number games played by fearmongers - and if most of these oh-so-irrefutable proofs that 2012=END are utterly baseless, why not all of them? The wall of "evidence" collapses under its own weight.

That should do for now. I'll be back in about three years if you still want to argue by then.

[MortalKombatSmoke]

wow, I was just bored when I made this XD I don't think the world's gonna end in 2012.

[Mr.Phenomenal]

I'm to lazy to wright such a huge paragraph, i'l just give you a few sentences

2012 is a year like any other year, not the year of destruction.

Scientists have done the same thing in the past years, every few years they are like "World go boom" and they caused a bit of panic every time they say that, why don't they just shut the **** up and live onto life?

No, the world isn't gonna end, not now, not in 2012.

The world will end whenever it feels like ending, don't let that stop you from living your life

[Seta]

The world will end in 2012 as sure as I will some day find a girl friend.

[VGVentus]

Y'know, I bet these "Facts" Were just mere promotion for the movie 2012...

[CrabHelmet]

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Y'know, I bet these "Facts" Were just mere promotion for the movie 2012...
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Get off my internet.

[Larxene]

[quote name='Kaiserchu' timestamp='1283450419' post='4592512']
Y'know, I bet these "Facts" Were just mere promotion for the movie 2012...
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You're just stupid. These rumors have been going around for decades, before the movie was even considered. If they were solely for the movie, they would've released it in 2012.

[Hydra of Ages]

Does it matter either way? Even if you guessed correctly, if it really is the end of the world, you'd be a little too dead to enjoy being proven right.