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[quote name='chedbonlahor' timestamp='1284227688' post='4617448']
Excuse me but correct me if I am mistaken but are you inferring that the USA deserved to have 3000 + people brutally killed because they think too highly of themselves, let me tell you something:

-If you think that america thinks highly of themselves that is YOUR oppinion
-Even so NO one NO person NO country NO race deserves what happened

you should be ashamed if that's what you infer.

OMG I JUST SAW THAT YOU BACK WHAT YOU SAY UP BY STATING THAT BECUASE OF 9/11 THERE WAS NOTHING ON TV FOR YOU TO WATCH, I'M LITTERALLY SPEECHLESS.
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Ok ok for this post you get a Rep though it was not only Americans but Canadians, Englandmen and other people. But George W. Bush and his father, George H. W. Bush can be partly to blame because they gave al-Qaeda weapons that George H. W. Bush give them and George W. Bush was hiddening Obama in the White House when this happen and Bush put him on a plane back to the middle east that very same day.
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[quote name='NeoDemonX' timestamp='1284228411' post='4617487']
Ok ok for this post you get a Rep though it was not only Americans but Canadians, Englandmen and other people. But George W. Bush and his father, George H. W. Bush can be partly to blame because they gave al-Qaeda weapons that George H. W. Bush give them and George W. Bush was hiddening Obama in the White House when this happen and Bush put him on a plane back to the middle east that very same day.
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Ok I can see that you are simply jokiing, dont take the P. please this is very serious.
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[quote name='NeoDemonX' timestamp='1284228411' post='4617487']
Ok ok for this post you get a Rep though it was not only Americans but Canadians, Englandmen and other people. But George W. Bush and his father, George H. W. Bush can be partly to blame because they gave al-Qaeda weapons that George H. W. Bush give them and George W. Bush was hiddening Obama in the White House when this happen and Bush put him on a plane back to the middle east that very same day.
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Obama... Really? The idea of the plot came solely from one man named Sheikh Mohammed who presented the idea to Osama bin Laden, these are all conspiracy theories, not facts.
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[quote name='JG.' timestamp='1284226350' post='4617365']
Imma comment here because it's so fun: 11/9 is no different from any other. And since more people live in Europe than in US, the official writing should be 11/9.
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It was OUR disaster... not to mention you compared a CONTINENT to a Country
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[quote name='龍之路' timestamp='1284228670' post='4617501']
Obama... Really? The idea of the plot came solely from one man named Sheikh Mohammed who presented the idea to Osama bin Laden, these are all conspiracy theories, not facts.
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He is taking the P. he just wants to get a rise and everyone to be horribly offended and start a mass brawl. Solution??? Inform a mod if he continues because in my mind he is spamming because he is not contributing to the topic, he is having a joke.
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On 11 September 2001, a man in New York died in the plane crash while working in the World Trade Center.

On 11 September 2001, a man in California died in a car crash.

On 11 September 2001, a man in India died of starvation.

And then, on 11 September 2004, a man in Iraq was minding his own business when he was shot in the head.

We remember the man in New York and mourn for the man in New York, but everyone else who also died "before their time" never enters our memory. Evidently, how deserving a person is of being mourned is determined solely by how shiny their death was.

Yes, people died on 11 September 2001 in the attacks. People also died on 11 September 2001 outside of attacks. People die every day outside of attacks. And many, many more civilians have died in the Iraq War - which, outside of the U.S. government using the 11 September 2001 attacks to drum up support for a war built on lies, was unrelated to the 11 September 2001 attacks - than died in the 11 September 2001 attacks.

Yet the three thousand people who died on 11 September 2001 in the attacks are the only ones we care about, and we weep for them on this day every year, but we shed no tears for anyone else. And in the end, there's no good reason why.
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[quote name='chedbonlahor' timestamp='1284228589' post='4617499']
Ok I can see that you are simply jokiing, dont take the P. please this is very serious.
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[quote name='龍之路' timestamp='1284228670' post='4617501']
Obama... Really? The idea of the plot came solely from one man named Sheikh Mohammed who presented the idea to Osama bin Laden, these are all conspiracy theories, not facts.
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I am taking it serious because the Laden Family and Bush Family are friends because of Oil and the day this all happen Osama bin Laden was visting Bush also that Osama bin Laden was train in the USA under the US Army.
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[quote name='Crab Helmet' timestamp='1284229308' post='4617533']
On 11 September 2001, a man in New York died in the plane crash while working in the World Trade Center.

On 11 September 2001, a man in California died in a car crash.

On 11 September 2001, a man in India died of starvation.

And then, on 11 September 2004, a man in Iraq was minding his own business when he was shot in the head.

We remember the man in New York and mourn for the man in New York, but everyone else who also died "before their time" never enters our memory. Evidently, how deserving a person is of being mourned is determined solely by how shiny their death was.

Yes, people died on 11 September 2001 in the attacks. People also died on 11 September 2001 outside of attacks. People die every day outside of attacks. And many, many more civilians have died in the Iraq War - which, outside of the U.S. government using the 11 September 2001 attacks to drum up support for a war built on lies, was unrelated to the 11 September 2001 attacks - than died in the 11 September 2001 attacks.

Yet the three thousand people who died on 11 September 2001 in the attacks are the only ones we care about, and we weep for them on this day every year, but we shed no tears for anyone else. And in the end, there's no good reason why.
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You're right to a point, they all deserve mourning, but you answered your own point. It was an attack. On Dec 7 1941, the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. There was mourning for that too. We mourned for that just as we mourned for this, because it was needless and senseless slaughter. People die everywhere, and in their own ways they are all mourned for. There is no difference between me mourning the loss of 3000 people and me mourning the loss of the guy who was in a car wreck, the guy who starved to death or the guy who was shot. They were all unnecessary as well. The same could be said for my dad who passed away this summer at the age of 53 from cancer and years of drinking. I mourned for him. I mourn for them. I sympathize with the families of those who have lost loved ones, no matter where they are. That's the difference between us and you Crab. Cold hard facts don't tell the stories compassion or pain that result from these events. Everyone feels pain when they lose a loved one, one of the few absolutes in this world.
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[quote name='NeoDemonX' timestamp='1284229351' post='4617537']
I am taking it serious because the Laden Family and Bush Family are friends because of Oil and the day this all happen Osama bin Laden was visting Bush also that Osama bin Laden was train in the USA under the US Army.
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It's hard to understand your grammar.
But you're trying to say Bush was in league with Bin Laden? No. It was a terrible tragedy, but in no way did Bush perpetrate it.
Do you seriously think that he would, on purpose, let terrorists kill so many innocent people? No.
And if you ARE bullsh*tting, then this is not the right kind of discussion to screw around in.
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[quote name='Dranzer' timestamp='1284233287' post='4617769']
60 years ago 90,000–166,000 japanese died from a nuclear bomb.Does the world treat that day any differant and have a national condolences for them.No.

3000 people die and it's a world disaster.
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No, it is not a world disaster. It is a national disaster. Americans mourn because of that. We could play the statistics game all night and it wouldn't change a thing.
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[quote name='FTW (For The Wynn)' timestamp='1284233415' post='4617779']
No, it is not a world disaster. It is a national disaster. Americans mourn because of that. We could play the statistics game all night and it wouldn't change a thing.
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I'm not saying that it's right I just think people are overeacting.

And realy do you know how many times people from all other countryes have bragged about 9/11 today?
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[quote name='Dranzer' timestamp='1284234016' post='4617810']
I'm not saying that it's right I just think people are overeacting.

And realy do you know how many times people from all other countryes have bragged about 9/11 today?
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Yeah, I do, everyone wants to see the US fall. Perhaps we are overreacting, idk. I still will mourn though. Besides, this isn't going to be an issue forever. In about 10 or 15 years most people won't really care as much because the new generation wasn't alive to see it.
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[quote name='FTW (For The Wynn)' timestamp='1284234241' post='4617823']
Yeah, I do, everyone wants to see the US fall. Perhaps we are overreacting, idk. I still will mourn though. Besides, this isn't going to be an issue forever. In about 10 or 15 years most people won't really care as much because the new generation wasn't alive to see it.
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Exactly.People forget this stuff after a few years past.

There have been so many examples of mass death this seems little.People are overeacting.
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[quote name='Crab Helmet' timestamp='1284229308' post='4617533']
On 11 September 2001, a man in New York died in the plane crash while working in the World Trade Center.

On 11 September 2001, a man in California died in a car crash.

On 11 September 2001, a man in India died of starvation.

And then, on 11 September 2004, a man in Iraq was minding his own business when he was shot in the head.

We remember the man in New York and mourn for the man in New York, but everyone else who also died "before their time" never enters our memory. Evidently, how deserving a person is of being mourned is determined solely by how shiny their death was.

Yes, people died on 11 September 2001 in the attacks. People also died on 11 September 2001 outside of attacks. People die every day outside of attacks. And many, many more civilians have died in the Iraq War - which, outside of the U.S. government using the 11 September 2001 attacks to drum up support for a war built on lies, was unrelated to the 11 September 2001 attacks - than died in the 11 September 2001 attacks.

Yet the three thousand people who died on 11 September 2001 in the attacks are the only ones we care about, and we weep for them on this day every year, but we shed no tears for anyone else. And in the end, there's no good reason why.
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Wrong?

We mourn for the losses of those people to commemorate the day in which thousands died therefore remembering those who have also died all around the world. It entirely depends on where you stand and how you wish to mourn, because surely this day will bring back memories of lost loved ones for everyone therefore them being mourned over. Am I correct?
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[quote name='龍之路' timestamp='1284240022' post='4618124']
Wrong?

We mourn for the losses of those people to commemorate the day in which thousands died therefore remembering those who have also died all around the world. It entirely depends on where you stand and how you wish to mourn, because surely this day will bring back memories of lost loved ones for everyone therefore them being mourned over. Am I correct?
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I can't be reading this correctly. Are you seriously telling me that mourning on 9/11 is as much directed at the random guy in California as it is about the people who died in the attacks? There's a word for claims of that nature: false.
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[quote name='JG.' timestamp='1284226350' post='4617365']
Imma comment here because it's so fun: 11/9 is no different from any other. And since more people live in Europe than in US, the official writing should be 11/9.
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Too right bro'.

When I think of 11/9...it's just sad, extremely sad. I get a horrible feeling in my stomach :/
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