zancrow the flame god Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 [b][center]RATE AND COMMENT PLEASE! [img]http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7866/gaiadragoonspiritofthee.jpg[/img] LORE:1 EARTH Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner Dragon-Type monsters Once per turn, you can remove from play 1 EARTH monster you control to have this card gain ATK equal to the level of the removed monster x200 until the End Phase. If there is another face-up monster after this card destroys a monster by battle, it can attack again in the same Battle Phase[/center][/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiAM Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Horribly overpowered. Even the ATK is overpowered, 3850? And being able to attack again, AND, even if they have 5 monsters, you can destroy them all, then just attack directly after, OTK? And then you can give it extra attack, say, use the EARTH Tuner, +1200 ATK, makes that 5050ATK, and anything up to 6 attacks (ignoring Special Summon effect monsters). Overpowered cards go into AoC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zancrow the flame god Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 it's meant to end the duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiAM Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 It can start and win the duel in one turn if you had the right spells... If only Rescue Cat was here, serious OTK. Why make it so OP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zancrow the flame god Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='LiAM' timestamp='1284399409' post='4623818'] It can start and win the duel in one turn if you had the right spells... If only Rescue Cat was here, serious OTK. Why make it so OP? [/quote] if you think about it, he's really not that op. his synchro can be negated, the opponent can use sakuretsu armor, mirror force, negate attack, all sorts of stuff can stop him from attacking. although i suppose i could change his effect to make it so he can only attack once again like ruin queen of oblivion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiAM Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='Fenrir-chan' timestamp='1284399636' post='4623822'] if you think about it, he's really not that op. his synchro can be negated, the opponent can use sakuretsu armor, mirror force, negate attack, all sorts of stuff can stop him from attacking. although i suppose i could change his effect to make it so he can only attack once again like ruin queen of oblivion [/quote] You can do that for any card ¬_¬ Cold Wave? Trap Stun? There. Done. Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zancrow the flame god Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='LiAM' timestamp='1284399738' post='4623824'] You can do that for any card ¬_¬ Cold Wave? Trap Stun? There. Done. Win. [/quote] i edited hims effect and nerfed his atk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiAM Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 It can still attack an infinite amount of times depending on how monsters there are... attacking once again for each destroyed monster. 2500 ATK and 2000 DEF could be nice, along with only being able to attack again once. And the damage increase could be x200, that way, average (LV4) = +800 ATK, 3300ATK and two attacks seems nice enough. Make sure the ATK gain only lasts until the end of the turn... or it'll get nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTW (For The Wynn) Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Woah, super OP'd. It def needs some kind of restriction(s). The only cards that end up begin more powerful are Majestic Red Dragon and Chimeratechs. Way too easy to summon for that kind of power. Now, if you made this a Cosmic Synchro (that looks so wrong, I preferred Accel Synchro) and had to pay say 1000 to attack then this card would be pretty decent. The pic seems stretched a bit I guess, something's up with it but it isn't too bad, overall the pic is good. The OCG seems right. I personally don't like this template, simply because of how the title looks. I've gotten fake cards that looked similar to that before. Not too bad overall I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zancrow the flame god Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='LiAM' timestamp='1284400244' post='4623841'] It can still attack an infinite amount of times depending on how monsters there are... attacking once again for each destroyed monster. 2500 ATK and 2000 DEF could be nice, along with only being able to attack again once. And the damage increase could be x200, that way, average (LV4) = +800 ATK, 3300ATK and two attacks seems nice enough. Make sure the ATK gain only lasts until the end of the turn... or it'll get nasty [/quote] "once again" means if he destroys a monster he only gets 1 extra attack. there, he has officially been epicly nerfed to the point of borderline suckage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiAM Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='Fenrir-chan' timestamp='1284400544' post='4623848'] "once again" means if he destroys a monster he only gets 1 extra attack. [/quote] Yes, but if he destroys another monster from that attack, he then gets another attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zancrow the flame god Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='LiAM' timestamp='1284400804' post='4623860'] Yes, but if he destroys another monster from that attack, he then gets another attack [/quote] no he doesn't. Ruin - Queen of Oblivion only gets 1 extra attack. his effect is based off of her multi attack effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiAM Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='Fenrir-chan' timestamp='1284400940' post='4623864'] no he doesn't. Ruin - Queen of Oblivion only gets 1 extra attack. his effect is based off of her multi attack effect [/quote] But an effect like "Gain 500 Life Points each time a monster is destroyed", if 2 are destroyed in the same Main Phase, you gain 1000. If you attack and destroy a monster by battle, you can attack again, destroy another, that's 2 attacks. I'm sure that's how it works... D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zancrow the flame god Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='LiAM' timestamp='1284401209' post='4623879'] But an effect like "Gain 500 Life Points each time a monster is destroyed", if 2 are destroyed in the same Main Phase, you gain 1000. If you attack and destroy a monster by battle, you can attack again, destroy another, that's 2 attacks. I'm sure that's how it works... D: [/quote] nope, sorry but you couldn't be any more wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTW (For The Wynn) Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='Fenrir-chan' timestamp='1284400940' post='4623864'] no he doesn't. Ruin - Queen of Oblivion only gets 1 extra attack. his effect is based off of her multi attack effect [/quote] I'm not sure of the rulings on Ruin, they aren't listed on YGO wikia but from what her effect reads it looks like she can attack until there are no monsters left on your opponent's side of the field provided each attack succeeds. There are also 2 other factors here. 1. This card is far stronger than Ruin and has more effects 2. This card is far easier to summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zancrow the flame god Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='FTW (For The Wynn)' timestamp='1284401263' post='4623882'] I'm not sure of the rulings on Ruin, they aren't listed on YGO wikia but from what her effect reads it looks like she can attack until there are no monsters left on your opponent's side of the field provided each attack succeeds. [/quote] to avoid any more confusion i will change his effect to make it so he can atk twice during the same battle phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTW (For The Wynn) Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='Fenrir-chan' timestamp='1284401690' post='4623897'] that's not how her effect works. it means only 1 extra attack [/quote] Like I said, couldn't find the rulings. A poorly worded effect there IMO, a lot of it is open to interpretation. Anyway, the differences between the 2 are still staggering and make all the difference. Maybe cut this big boy's attack in half to attack again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zancrow the flame god Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='FTW (For The Wynn)' timestamp='1284402075' post='4623915'] Like I said, couldn't find the rulings. A poorly worded effect there IMO, a lot of it is open to interpretation. Anyway, the differences between the 2 are still staggering and make all the difference. Maybe cut this big boy's attack in half to attack again. [/quote] i've done the final edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiAM Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Attacking twice in the same battle phase can make 2 direct attacks. How about; [b] "If there is another face-up monster after this card destroys a monster by battle, it can attack again in the same Battle Phase"[/b] ^This is the perfect solution =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zancrow the flame god Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 alright, fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossader Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 [color="#800080"][size="3"][font="Comic Sans MS"][b]The ruling says that when Ruin destroys an opponent monster in battle, it can attack once more time in a row. That means you can attack again with the card BUT it must attack now, not like if you destroyed a monster with her, then you attack with anothjer monster and then you do her second attack, that's wrong. She Attacks > She destroys > Want to attack again? (Yes) > You must attack with her now[/b][/font][/size][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zancrow the flame god Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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