Spoon Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 [center][img]http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2628/234848k.jpg[/img] [b][i]Lore: When this card is Normal Summoned, take control of all Tokens your opponent controls. This card cannot be selected as an attack target as long as you control at least 2 face-up Tokens. All Tokens your opponent Summons are Special Summoned to your side of the field instead. Once per turn, you can Tribute 1 Token you control (ignoring all effects stating that a Token cannot be Tributed) to activate 1 of the following effects: -Take control of a face-up monster with the same Level as the Tributed Token until the End Phase. You cannot Tribute that monster, it cannot be used for a Synchro Summoning and it cannot attack your opponent directly. -Inflict damage to your opponent equal to the Level of the Tributed Token x300. -Special Summon 1 "Puppet Token" (Warrior-Type/EARTH/Level 3/1000 ATK/1000 DEF). That Token cannot be Tributed or used as a Synchro Material Monster. When this card is destroyed and send to the Graveyard, destroy all Tokens on the field.[/i][/b] (Image from Jazin Kay's Archive)[/center] Long effect is long. Terrible card is terrible. Do you agree? So long, Spoon Edit: For those who are curious, I changed the name, that's where it comes from: [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIMA"]UNIMA (wiki)[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomisntblue Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 I do not agree. The effect may be long, but it's very unique and pretty balanced even if it does abuse tokens. The low attack is a good balancer. And the picture is great. All in all 9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.B X Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 4 Things... 1/ Hate the Name. 2/ Love the Pic. 3/ I hate that the effect is long. But i love how this card can really i mean really abuse Tokens. 4/ Hello, this is thing number 4, i am here 4 some reason, but i serve no purpose :/ Rating(Based on Balance and Creativity): 6/10. Good job Note: Card is kind of Over-Powered, i mean its good but can be abused like you said. I think you should work on the effect some more, that is my advice to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted September 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 [quote name='tomisntblue' timestamp='1285836194' post='4668346'] I do not agree. The effect may be long, but it's very unique and pretty balanced even if it does abuse tokens. The low attack is a good balancer. And the picture is great. All in all 9/10 [/quote] Thank you [quote name='M.B X' timestamp='1285836905' post='4668351'] 4 Things...[/quote] Alright, bring 'em on! [quote]1/ Hate the Name.[/quote] It's certainly not my best idea, I admit that much If I can come up with another one, I'll change it. [quote]2/ Love the Pic.[/quote] Great, me too [quote]3/ I hate that the effect is long. But i love how this card can really i mean really abuse Tokens.[/quote] When I play YGO-WC 10 once in a while, I always get angry when I see a Dandylion or Scapegoats... that's essentially why I made it, so I can abuse them to death [quote]4/ Hello, this is thing number 4, i am here 4 some reason, but i serve no purpose :/[/quote] Hello number 4, how are you? [quote]Rating(Based on Balance and Creativity): 6/10. Good job Note: Card is kind of Over-Powered, i mean its good but can be abused like you said. I think you should work on the effect some more, that is my advice to you.[/quote] Yeah, I guessed that much. But how can I change it to make it less OP'ed? I don't want to take any of the effects away, so I have to lower the numbers. Maybe make the Summoning condition "If your opponent controls 2 or more Tokens, you can Special Summon this card from your hand"? Add a Life Point cost to the tributing effect or to any other effects? Would be nice if you or anybody else could give me an advice on that Anyways, thanks for the comment So long, Spoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.B X Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Alright, here is what you should do about the effect. New Effect: When this card is Normal or Special Summoned, take control of 1Tokens your opponent controls. This card cannot be selected as an attack target as long as you control at least 2 face-up TokenS. All Tokens your opponent Summons are Special Summoned to your side of the field instead. Once per turn, you can Tribute 1 Token you control to activate 1 of the following effects: -Take control of 1 face-up monster your opponent controls with the same Level as the Tributed Token until the End Phase. You cannot Tribute that monster, it cannot be used for a Synchro Summoning and it cannot attack. -Inflict damage to your opponent equal to the Level of the Tributed Token x300. -Special Summon 1 "Puppet Token" (Warrior-Type/EARTH/Level 2/500 ATK/1000 DEF). That Token cannot be Tributed for a Tribute Summon or be used as a Synchro Material Monster. When this card is destroyed and send to the Graveyard, destroy all Tokens on the field. Old Effect: You can Special Summon this card from your hand when your opponent Special Summons 1 or more Tokens. When this card is Special Summoned that way, take control of all Tokens your opponent controls. This card cannot be selected as an attack target as long as you control at least 1 face-up Token. All Tokens your opponent Summons are Special Summoned to your side of the field instead. Once per turn, you can Tribute 1 Token you control (ignoring all effects stating that a Token cannot be Tributed) to activate 1 of the following effects: -Take control of a face-up monster with the same Level as the Tributed Token until the End Phase. You cannot Tribute that monster, it cannot be used for a Synchro Summoning and it cannot attack your opponent directly. -Inflict damage to your opponent equal to the Level of the Tributed Token x300. -Special Summon 1 "Puppet Token" (Warrior-Type/EARTH/Level 3/1000 ATK/1000 DEF). That Token cannot be Tributed or used as a Synchro Material Monster. When this card is destroyed and send to the Graveyard, destroy all Tokens on the field. Hope that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted September 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 [quote name='M.B X' timestamp='1285838888' post='4668363'] Alright, here is what you should do about the effect. New Effect: [b]When this card is Normal or Special Summoned, take control of 1Tokens your opponent controls.[/b] [u]This card cannot be selected as an attack target as long as you control at least 2 face-up Tokens.[/u] All Tokens your opponent Summons are Special Summoned to your side of the field instead. Once per turn, you can Tribute 1 Token you control to activate 1 of the following effects: -Take control of 1 face-up monster your opponent controls with the same Level as the Tributed Token until the End Phase. You cannot Tribute that monster, it cannot be used for a Synchro Summoning and it cannot attack. -Inflict damage to your opponent equal to the Level of the Tributed Token x300. -Special Summon 1 "Puppet Token" (Warrior-Type/EARTH/Level 2/500 ATK/1000 DEF). That Token cannot be Tributed for a Tribute Summon or be used as a Synchro Material Monster. When this card is destroyed and send to the Graveyard, destroy all Tokens on the field.[/quote] I changed the bolded one a bit and kept the underlined, thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.B X Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Hey, no prob. Can you please go check my cards? http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/223580-mb-x-the-sun-and-the-moon-have-spirits/page__view__findpost__p__4665935__fromsearch__1 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted October 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 *bump* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom M.C. Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 the only real damage it could do is if your opponent summons gorz, since its the only token with a high level. the effect is terribly hard to use, since tokens aren't really played that much, and most tokens are either level 1 or 2. so yeah, the card's not very usable i suggest changing this [b][i]Special Summon 1 "Puppet Token" (Warrior-Type/EARTH/Level 3/1000 ATK/1000 DEF). *took out the restrictions*[/i][/b] that would make it more playable. rating: 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 [quote name='Phantom M.C.' timestamp='1285944203' post='4670921'] the only real damage it could do is if your opponent summons gorz, since its the only token with a high level. the effect is terribly hard to use, since tokens aren't really played that much, and most tokens are either level 1 or 2. so yeah, the card's not very usable[/quote] Well, at least it takes the tokens off the opponent, so they can't use them for tributing, synchroing or defending. But yeah, they don't see much play, that could really be a problem. [quote]i suggest changing this [b][i]Special Summon 1 "Puppet Token" (Warrior-Type/EARTH/Level 3/1000 ATK/1000 DEF). *took out the restrictions*[/i][/b] that would make it more playable.[/quote] I think about it... [quote]rating: 8/10[/quote] That's still a pretty high ranking, thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Smeagle Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Two Words. Nightmare. Archfiends. Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 You seem to have a strange habit of making all your cards either ridiculously broken or ridiculously unusable. The name is actually pretty good, I kind of like it. Pic isn't fantastic but it's solid. OCG is perfect. If a deck is ever invented that operates of tokens this would become broken, but for now it's obscure and unusable. 4.2/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 [quote name='Lord Smeagle' timestamp='1286005854' post='4672822'] Two Words. Nightmare. Archfiends. Yeah. [/quote] Hmm... sounds like a nice combo indeed [quote name='Älfred-Kün' timestamp='1286013521' post='4672883'] You seem to have a strange habit of making all your cards either ridiculously broken or ridiculously unusable. The name is actually pretty good, I kind of like it. Pic isn't fantastic but it's solid. OCG is perfect.[/quote] I only try to bring in effects that were never used before. I could also try to create usable cards, but that would probably make them boring. I hate boring cards. [quote]If a deck is ever invented that operates of tokens this would become broken, but for now it's obscure and unusable. 4.2/10.[/quote] Yep, we already have established that this card is unusable because it doesn't fit in the current meta-game... but does that make it necessarily bad? I still don't get this section, really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 [quote name='Spoon' timestamp='1286013902' post='4672890'] I only try to bring in effects that were never used before. I could also try to create usable cards, but that would probably make them boring. I hate boring cards. [b]There is a reason that an effect centering around opponent's tokens has never been used before - it's incredibly situational. Having this card in your hand for the entire game and finding out your opponent doesn't run any cards that summon tokens - that's boring. Baiting your opponent to attack you and then summoning Gorz - that's fun. You are basically saying that usable cards are boring, making you another one of those whiners in TCG who moan about how broken new cards are and how good it was back in the day.[/b] Yep, we already have established that this card is unusable because it doesn't fit in the current meta-game... but does that make it necessarily bad? I still don't get this section, really [b]It does. If a card can't be used except in extremely exclusive situations then it's pointless. If it's pointless it's bad.[/b] [/quote] You can't prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 [quote name='Älfred-Kün' timestamp='1286015039' post='4672907'] It does. If a card can't be used except in extremely exclusive situations then it's pointless. If it's pointless it's bad.[/quote] Well, clashing point of views I guess, I can't prove you wrong because you have your opinion and I have mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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