Tentacruel Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 I should get a tattoo of a swastika and go to church with it exposed. On second thought, I'll just give moral support. Go peace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Didn't plenty of allied soldiers wear swastikas in WW1 as a good luck symbol? I think I remember that one right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 [quote name='Smokin'' timestamp='1287865329' post='4729500'] I believe the symbol for peace was originally developed by Buddha's or Hindu's or a religion of that matter, someone who was a part of Hitler's nation, being a clever bunny decided to tilt that symbol slightly and remove the dots, therefore giving you the Swastika. Basically, what Dark said... And pardon me if I'm wrong, my memory may not be serving me well. [/quote] Correct me if I'm wrong but a religion is defined as a way of explaining everything and buddhism doesn't seeing as how Buddha is a real person recorded person. However to me, it seems as if it is just the American school systems teaching everyone that the Swastika has been a Nazi symbol forever instead of a sign of peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outlaw Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1288204137' post='4742298'] Correct me if I'm wrong but a religion is defined as a way of explaining everything and buddhism doesn't seeing as how Buddha is a real person recorded person. However to me, it seems as if it is just the American school systems teaching everyone that the Swastika has been a Nazi symbol forever instead of a sign of peace. [/quote] Buddhism is still a religion? Religion is not a way of explaining everything, that's what religion bashers believe. Several religions exist and I'm sure at least one of there aims of them is to put people on the right track for life, now what is wrong with that? It means in general it is a tidier world for those who are loyal. Religion is how you view it and how you want to perceive it, some people turn to it to put themselves on the right path or to be accepted into the afterlife if that is what they believe in, that is what free will is for. So to sum up; Buddha may not be viewed as a god but people do turn to Buddhism for whatever reason, enlightenment or even seeking the right path, that makes it a religion by my books. And to any of those dumb fucks who say; "free will doesn't exist because the soul controls behaviour" (by 'the soul' I mean the scientific soul that lingers above the brain, not the one that rests in your heart, blah, blah...) I say it does, because free will is within your [b]will[/b], it is your [b]will[/b] to do it, regardless of the soul or the brain controlling your initial reactions. Pardon me if I'm wrong, I just started college and I've skipped a few grades, so I'm a tad bit behind. And the Swastika isn't a sign of peace, if it's straight on rather than tilted with several dots between the gaps of the symbol it is, tilted with no dots it is the Nazi symbol, otherwise known as a Swastika. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 They are both called Swasitkas. Dude, we've already established this: the one with dots and is straight [i]is[/i] a symbol of peace; the one rotated 45 degrees and has no dots is [i]not[/i] a symbol of peace. [i]Religion is not a way of explaining everything, that's what religion bashers believe.[/i] No, religions attempt to explain everything in a supernatural way that could just as easily be explained by logical science. I'm not saying that's the definition of a religion, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 [quote name='The Blood Red Sandman' timestamp='1287922670' post='4731567'] OT: I think the swastika is only considered the Nazi Symbol when it's tipped on it's side: [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Nazi_swastika_clean.svg/200px-Nazi_swastika_clean.svg.png[/img] But even so, it shouldn't even be considered a Nazi Symbol primarily. [/quote] Actually, Animal Farm was a satire on Soviet Russia. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiAM Posted October 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1288290049' post='4745045'] Actually, Animal Farm was a satire on Soviet Russia. :/ [/quote] So? What does that have to with swastikas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 [quote name='LiAM' timestamp='1288290193' post='4745052'] So? What does that have to with swastikas? [/quote] I was reffering to "The Blood Red Sandman" post. Are you reffering to the show or the book. My brain is a bit clogged from studying so pardon me for confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 lol@nimrods who stereotype symbols I've seen someone think that the Star of David (Jewish, [i]six[/i]-pointed star that is made of two triangles) was a [i]penta[/i]gram. What the hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 [quote name='Sixty3Zero' timestamp='1288307098' post='4745764'] lol@nimrods who stereotype symbols I've seen someone think that the Star of David (Jewish, [i]six[/i]-pointed star that is made of two triangles) was a [i]penta[/i]gram. What the hell. [/quote] It is if you remove a point, tip it upside down and draw a circle around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 The Swastika was never a symbol of peace. It was a Navajo symbol for the sun. o.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 [quote name='Felix Culpa' timestamp='1288385149' post='4747519'] The Swastika was never a symbol of peace. It was a Navajo symbol for the sun. o.o [/quote] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Hinduism"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Hinduism[/url] I'm not big on Hinduism (although my mom is), but I'm fairly sure that both Hinduism and Jainism refer to the Swastika as a symbol of peace and whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Knox Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 I don't care for the nazi symbol its no longer a fear symbol go back to good the only people who think of it bad are those jews who carry a grudge over all these years. Also with the animal farm thing i told my teacher that i thought the book was a communist thing and she had to talk to my mom over that. GO SWASTIKA FOR PEACE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 [quote name='Dark' timestamp='1288221189' post='4743251'] No, religions attempt to explain everything in a supernatural way that could just as easily be explained by logical science. [/quote] Well, not just as easily. It's much more easy to say "Goddidit" than it is to develop a unified theory reconciling relativity and quantum mechanics. >_> That's why "The simplest explanation is usually right" is [i]not[/i] an accurate summary of Occam's Razor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Knox Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Yes but people enjoy actually trying to find a true answer for something instead of saying one word you go in and explain what you found and why it is the truth. Religion and Science can never mix why because when science has proof religion holds up their holy book and say this tells me i'm right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 [quote name='Crab Helmet' timestamp='1288422630' post='4749076'] Well, not just as easily. It's much more easy to say "Goddidit" than it is to develop a unified theory reconciling relativity and quantum mechanics. >_> That's why "The simplest explanation is usually right" is [i]not[/i] an accurate summary of Occam's Razor. [/quote] I never actually read into Occam's Razor (I felt Pascal's Wager was stupid enough), so I don't entirely know what you mean. But yeah, the fact that it is more difficult to explain something using science kind of attests to the fact that saynig "Goddidit" is much more easier and less of a load on feeble minds. And while science does have its shortcomings, at least science is more easily mendable than religion is. In science, if proof of god was given, we'd mend science to institute that in our teaching. In religion, if proof of no god was given, religious people would continue to ignore facts and believe whatever the hell they want (or at least a vast majority). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 [quote name='Dark' timestamp='1288543788' post='4752429'] I never actually read into Occam's Razor (I felt Pascal's Wager was stupid enough), so I don't entirely know what you mean. [/quote] You should, Occam's razor is often used to dismiss religious [acronym='beliefs']theories[/acronym] as unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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