Doom_Shaman Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Monsters: 23 2x Caius, The Shadow Monarch 1x Gorz, The Emissary of Darkness 1x Dark Creator 2x Darklord Zerato 1x Destiny Hero - Dasher 3x Phantom of Chaos 1x Plaguespreader Zombie 2x Krebons 1x D.D.M - Different Dimension Master 2x Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter 2x Armageddon Knight 2x Dark Grepher 1x Morphing Jar 1x Dark Armed Dragon Spells: 11 2x Mystical Space Typhoon 1x Dark Hole 1x Foolish Burial 1x Burial From the Different Dimension 1x Allure of Darkness 1x Gold Sarcophagus 1x Monster Reborn 1x Emergency Teleport 1x Charge of the Light Brigade 1x Cold Wave Traps: 7 2x Bottomless Trap Hole 1x Mirror Force 1x Solemn Judgment 2x Solemn Warning 1x Call of the Haunted Extra: 2x Stardust Dragon 1x Hundred Eyes Dragon 2x Black Rose Dragon 1x Brionac, Dragon to the Ice Barrier 1x Goyo Guardian. 1x Ancient Fairy Dragon 2x Dark End Dragon Edited X2 Thnx to much help from Red W Mage - 1x Sky Scourge 2x Dimensional Alchemist + 1x Darklord Zerato 1x DDM Considering: 1x Necroface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 I'm gonna pound something into your brain now: FIEND IS A TYPE NOT A THEME A DECK BASED AROUND RANDOM FIEND CARDS IS BAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 [quote name='-Pacman-' timestamp='1288210773' post='4742603'] I'm gonna pound something into your brain now: FIEND IS A TYPE NOT A THEME A DECK BASED AROUND RANDOM FIEND CARDS IS BAD. [/quote] what about decks with Dark Necrofear? anyway, -1 Vortex -1 Veil +2 Dark Creator -1 Doomsday Horror -2 Dark Hunter +2 Ryko +1 Charge of the Light Brigade -1 Card Destruction +1 Cold Wave -1 TT -1 Dark General +2 Krebons -1 RftDD +1 Emergency Tele -1 Dark Resonator +1 Dark Armed Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom_Shaman Posted October 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 @pacman- fiend is just as much a theme as lightsworn is. the differance? Lightsworn=Archtype, archtypes have a common synergy that you just have to hear the word "lightsworn" to get.... Fiend=Type, types have alont of different usabilities and you actually have to[i]think[/i] about how the deck is put together if its around a type FACT=Types suppport each other, just like attributes do, [b][i]just like archtypes do[/i][/b] stop telling me my deck idea is stupid just cuz you dont look at how the cards work together. fiend is a theme. end of story. if you dont have something intelligent to say, go away. @red w. mage- thnx for the tips man. couple of questions tho. 1. why ryko? i put in dimensional alchemist in as a light fairy. also i dont think charge of the light brigade works too well with 80% dark monsters... just a question. same question roughly for krebons and emergency teleport im still old school metagame so idk alot of this stuff 2. 3 dark creators also seems like alot. i like to run no s**t hand decks, is this more acceptable in todays metagame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 [quote name='Doom_Shaman' timestamp='1288256497' post='4744321'] @red w. mage- thnx for the tips man. couple of questions tho. 1. why ryko? i put in dimensional alchemist in as a light fairy. also i dont think charge of the light brigade works too well with 80% dark monsters... just a question. [b]It's not the fact that it's light, it's that it provides deck milling... that way you can have more access to dark monsters in your graveyard through Dark Creator, Dark Armed Dragon, PoC, etc. Charge allows for searching of Rykos and more deck thining... if you prefer though you can use Lyla. [/b] same question roughly for krebons and emergency teleport [b]Synchro Summoning, mainly with Knight and Grepher for Brio or Goyo.[/b] im still old school metagame so idk alot of this stuff 2. 3 dark creators also seems like alot. i like to run no s**t hand decks, is this more acceptable in todays metagame? [b]You're right, instead of 2 more Creators add a Destiny Hero Dasher and a PSZ (Search PSZ with Armageddon, get a quick synchro for Goyo, or send Dasher so you can SS Zerato, Caius, Gorz, and all your strong monsters)[/b] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom_Shaman Posted October 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 ok thnx for all the help. ive edited. but if you dont mind discussing i still dont think charge is the best asset. can you use it if you have used the lightsworn already? if so than it fits much better but i still have to wonder how card destruction isnt better. also are the dimensional alchemist still good for the deck? they do work but would it be better to replace them with a dark support, of even a spell? lol and just for the h*ll of it, why -Doomsday Horror. it seems to me that having 0 dark monsters in your grave, then offing you Doomsday Horror and giving you them back(to be used with effects like Grepher or whatnot) is a solid strategy. now that i really think about it though, it could be an early game dead draw.... is that it? 1 last stupid question for this comment anyway, what would the build for an extra deck look like for this deck. im still [i]awful[/i] at extra decks. not that im phenominal at regular decks but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 [quote name='Doom_Shaman' timestamp='1288321426' post='4746250'] ok thnx for all the help. ive edited. but if you dont mind discussing i still dont think charge is the best asset. can you use it if you have used the lightsworn already? if so than it fits much better but i still have to wonder how card destruction isnt better.[b] if it for some reason dumps a Ryko, you can simply search the other one. or if you set Ryko, it goes to the grave, then you can still use it... the only time when not is if you don't have it in your deck anymore, at which case you will mill, and you will have no more Rykos. at this point your opponent is allowed to check your deck to make sure you aren't lying. It is better than Card Destruction in that it mills from the deck itself, not from your hand, which may contain cards you need.[/b] also are the dimensional alchemist still good for the deck? they do work but would it be better to replace them with a dark support, of even a spell? [b]They are still good, no need to replace[/b] lol and just for the h*ll of it, why -Doomsday Horror. it seems to me that having 0 dark monsters in your grave, then offing you Doomsday Horror and giving you them back(to be used with effects like Grepher or whatnot) is a solid strategy. now that i really think about it though, it could be an early game dead draw.... is that it? [b]Early game yes, and also relatively no point later game as well... by then either 1) you are getting killed and there is no point as your opponent is just removing it from your field outside of destruction. 2) You are winning, your opponent ran out of destruction cards O_O.[/b] 1 last stupid question for this comment anyway, what would the build for an extra deck look like for this deck. im still [i]awful[/i] at extra decks. not that im phenominal at regular decks but still.[b] extra decks normally look something like Extra Deck (15) 2 Stardust Dragon 1 Goyo Guardian 1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier etc. just Generic Synchros are fine, but if you want a good list just search for any deck that uses an extra deck, they are all almost the same (you should however include Dark End Dragon to your Extra Deck)[/b] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom_Shaman Posted October 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 that a=is extensively helpful and thorough. thank you again. last question i promise is hundred eyes dragon and chaos king archfiend a bad extra deck choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 [quote name='Doom_Shaman' timestamp='1288322719' post='4746287'] that a=is extensively helpful and thorough. thank you again. last question i promise is hundred eyes dragon and chaos king archfiend a bad extra deck choice? [/quote] Hundred Eyes isn't a bad Idea with Krebons or PSZ + Caius, but Chaos King Archfiend might not if you are not using Resonator, in which case if you need room you can -2 Dimensional Alchemist. I would only recommend 1 however, and the other for a +1 Caius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom_Shaman Posted October 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 ok ill drop the chaos king. i like my alchemist's. thnx for all the help and patience, ima go trolling for a decent/generic extra deck. hope you enjoy the 3 reps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 [quote name='Doom_Shaman' timestamp='1288323274' post='4746299'] hope you enjoy the 3 reps [/quote] I will do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just-duelist Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 [quote name='Doom_Shaman' timestamp='1288256497' post='4744321'] @pacman- fiend is just as much a theme as lightsworn is. the differance? Lightsworn=Archtype, archtypes have a common synergy that you just have to hear the word "lightsworn" to get.... Fiend=Type, types have alont of different usabilities and you actually have to[i]think[/i] about how the deck is put together if its around a type FACT=Types suppport each other, just like attributes do, [b][i]just like archtypes do[/i][/b] stop telling me my deck idea is stupid just cuz you dont look at how the cards work together. fiend is a theme. end of story. if you dont have something intelligent to say, go away. [/quote] archetype doesnt nessesarily make a theme, a theme is a specific goal a deck is built around such as a lock or control varient this deck can be seen to have more of a control theme to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom_Shaman Posted November 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 @ Red W Mage i ran this on yvd a couple times and it did really well. but i noticed a couple things: charge did really well, you were right teleport wasnt so helpful as id have liked. it was a dead draw 3 times. norleas interfeares with dark creator and dasher. so i was thinking..... -Emergency Teleport - Sky Scourge + Pot of Duality + Darklord Zerato im also thinking about dropping 1 krebons just cuz i have 3 level 2 tuners, and adding one thats a little more virsitel. and if i lose norleas i may drop the alchemist's if i can find a better card. any ideas or suggested on the above for adds drops? oh and would the card ambitious gofer fit in the deck better than ciaus? lol. sorry to bug you but i appreciate the help. im probably the oldest person on this board and dont have all the time id like to get more familier with the metagame. thnx again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 [quote name='Doom_Shaman' timestamp='1288615571' post='4754354'] @ Red W Mage i ran this on yvd a couple times and it did really well. but i noticed a couple things: charge did really well, you were right teleport wasnt so helpful as id have liked. it was a dead draw 3 times. norleas interfeares with dark creator and dasher. so i was thinking..... -Emergency Teleport - Sky Scourge + Pot of Duality + Darklord Zerato im also thinking about dropping 1 krebons just cuz i have 3 level 2 tuners, and adding one thats a little more virsitel. and if i lose norleas i may drop the alchemist's if i can find a better card. any ideas or suggested on the above for adds drops? oh and would the card ambitious gofer fit in the deck better than ciaus? lol. sorry to bug you but i appreciate the help. im probably the oldest person on this board and dont have all the time id like to get more familier with the metagame. thnx again [/quote] well I suppose if you aren't using Teleport then you can drop the 2 Krebons and fit in +1 Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind +1 Effect Veiler and if your not interested in alchemist, then Cyber Dragon is good until I can think of anything better... Caius>Gofer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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