Rise of the Princesses!

[Spoon]

[quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1288724950' post='4757289']
Do you even need to run 3 of each Princess? I say keep a lock "level limit B or Gravity Bind" on and continue to burn, and then try for the Princess' if possible? This would give you more room and a better deck, imo.[/quote]

I run only 2 each... but yeah, they're pretty dead sometimes, that's true. Or do you mean the Magician's? Well, the longer I wait, the more options my opponent has to take my protecting Spells/Traps out, so I consider more = better. I have 5 Monster Card Zones, there's usually enough space for everyone, they're never dead draws... the problem is, that if I reduce the number, I basically lose my main monsters to not-drawing them... I'll test it though.

[quote]Anyway for draw power how about the apprentice engine?[/quote]

Apprentice Engine? Sorry, but what's that?

[quote name='InconsistentDecks' timestamp='1288725159' post='4757294']
Why doesn't every other Tier 2-3 deck main Burden of the Mighty then?
[/quote]

I don't know? Maybe they should But remember, this is not Tier 2 or 3... this is Tier ∞, maybe even ∞+1

[Wic0]

Why don't you just turn it into a drain deck? That way u could use it in a duel, I made a drain deck, and I gotta say, it doesn't suck nearly as bad as I thought it would, it's actually good:

4-star:

White mage pikeru x2
ebon mage curran x2
Princess pikeru x1
princess curran x1
stealth bird x3
balloon lizard x3
skull-mark ladybug x3
fire princess x3
nimble nomanga x3
KA-2 des scissors x2
kiseitai x3

5-6 star:

marie the fallen one x1
needle burrower x2

8+ star:

guardian angel joan x2
shinato, king of a higher plane x1

spells:

trial of princesses x2
wave motion cannon x3
dark room of nightmare x3
mask of dispel x1
shinato's ark x1
dark snake syndrome x2
burning land x1
mask of the accursed x1

trap:

draining shield x3
nightmare wheel x3
solemn wishes x2
coffin seller x1

total:55

of course, u should keep some of your own cards since it revolves around pikeru and curran and not draining i.e. shining angel and it would need more currans and pikerus, maybe the card "a rival appears"

either way, the key to making a good drain deck is excluding cards like dian keto the cure master and including continuous cards like nightmare wheel, key cards: stealth bird, dark room of nightmare, fire princess.

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[Legend Zero]

[quote name='Spoon' timestamp='1288726028' post='4757339']
I run only 2 each... but yeah, they're pretty dead sometimes, that's true. Or do you mean the Magician's? Well, the longer I wait, the more options my opponent has to take my protecting Spells/Traps out, so I consider more = better. I have 5 Monster Card Zones, there's usually enough space for everyone, they're never dead draws... the problem is, that if I reduce the number, I basically lose my main monsters to not-drawing them... I'll test it though.



Apprentice Engine? Sorry, but what's that?
[/quote]
Have you edited the first post? I'm going to make changes based on it.

-2 Grinder Golem (queen is better imo for what you're trying to do)
+2 Volcanic Queen
-2 Magician's Circle
+1 Gravity Bind
-2 Burden
+2 Level Limit B
-1 Sangan
-2 Tomato
+1 Shining
+3 Apprentice Magician
-1 Hidden Armory
+1 Dark Hole
-1 Village
+1 Terraforming

The win condition is burn so the objective is to get the level limits or gravity bind up, a magician on the field, village on the field, summon queen, equip trials, attack queen and use shrink...and continue to burn/heal.

Even if you don't get the princesses out this could still win. I'm thinking Magic Cylinder (i know its normally bad but the added burn could be game since you lack overall ATK) I'll test later and see if I can think of anything else.

[Spoon]

[quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1288728566' post='4757457']
Have you edited the first post? I'm going to make changes based on it.

-2 Grinder Golem (queen is better imo for what you're trying to do)
+2 Volcanic Queen
-2 Magician's Circle
+1 Gravity Bind
-2 Burden
+2 Level Limit B
-1 Sangan
-2 Tomato
+1 Shining
+3 Apprentice Magician
-1 Hidden Armory
+1 Dark Hole
-1 Village
+1 Terraforming

The win condition is burn so the objective is to get the level limits or gravity bind up, a magician on the field, village on the field, summon queen, equip trials, attack queen and use shrink...and continue to burn/heal.

Even if you don't get the princesses out this could still win. I'm thinking Magic Cylinder (i know its normally bad but the added burn could be game since you lack overall ATK) I'll test later and see if I can think of anything else.
[/quote]

Gravity Bind and Level Limit - Area B are limited
But yeah, I'll try the Apprentice over Tomato and Shining, see how that works... maybe re-add 1 or 2 Villages... but why -1 Village +1 Terraforming? That doesn't make any sense

Magic Cylinder... well, it's nice, but it would maybe even make it too easy... I'll consider it though.

[Legend Zero]

[quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1288728566' post='4757457']
Have you edited the first post? I'm going to make changes based on it.

-2 Grinder Golem (queen is better imo for what you're trying to do)
+2 Volcanic Queen
-2 Magician's Circle
-2 Burden
-1 Sangan
-2 Tomato
+1 Shining
-1 Trial
-1 Chaos
+3 Apprentice Magician
-1 Hidden Armory
+1 Dark Hole
-1 Village
+1 Terraforming

The win condition is burn so the objective is to get the level limits or gravity bind up, a magician on the field, village on the field, summon queen, equip trials, attack queen and use shrink...and continue to burn/heal.

Even if you don't get the princesses out this could still win. I'm thinking Magic Cylinder (i know its normally bad but the added burn could be game since you lack overall ATK) I'll test later and see if I can think of anything else.
[/quote]

New changes...this should get you close to 40. Not crazy about the trap line up.

[.:Incognito:.]

-2 grinder golem +2 volcanic queen Queen needs a monster to summon so you get a monster destroyed on your opponent's field. Plus it can destroyed stardust and stardust/assault mode.

[ElementalHeroForestfire]

go with bottomless trap hole,you cant go wrong,and maybe a chaos burst

[Wic0]

Why do u peoples like volcanic queen? by continuous i didn't mean cards with effects like volcanic queen, so what do u people think of the drain deck?

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click one or they will die (I'm serious) and you and only you will be responible for a ghost egg haunting you for the rest of ur life...

[Spoon]

Alright, alright... that's too much

I remade the deck, took some of your advices, and some not. It's now down to 40 cards, but still needs testing. To explain some of the choices:

The Princesses are down to 1 each, because they're pretty much useless in my hand, resulting in dead draws and dead draws alone. If a Duel should ever last that long that I want to summon a third Princess, I can recycle them with Pot of Avarice. I kicked Burden, because it doesn't seem to be pretty popular around here... no of course not, but it just hadn't the sudden impact I need for this deck. It's too slow, my opponent can adjust to it way to easily. I now know that, so I kicked it. I still run 1 Grinder Golem, simply because it's my only choice if my opponent doesn't [i]have[/i] any monsters out (or monster that can't be tributed, unlikely, but possible). It also provides me with Tokens for Pikeru, can't say no to that. Graceful Revival is in for testing. I noticed that I'm now way [i]under[/i] the 20/20 Ratio for monsters, so I thought picking it up is a good idea. I can also activate it during my opponent's End Phase to go for the extra burn with Curran. The Village is only at 2 because it is pretty powerful, but my field should be prepared for it so I can properly make use of it, meaning that there is at least Level Limit - Area B or Gravity Bind out, preferably also a Solemn Whatever or a Trap Stun.
Everything else should be selfexplanatory, if it's not, let me know.

Any suggestions that now come should have a reason. Not just "it's bad" or "you need it"... that doesn't help me evaluate it. Thanks.

@Ryik7: I know you're trying to help... but please, do us all a favor and get out of my thread. Advertising your stupid eggs doesn't make it any better

[CommanderVolt]

Nice going looks pretty clean. I wanna try it out my self

Anyway, i have no suggestions/tips or anything. Tell us how it works out for ya.

[Legend Zero]

- Grinder Golem and Sangan
+2 Shining Angel (or any other light monster....need more Sorc food)


I've tested and Grinder just never helps...

Also what about Foolish Burial?

[Spoon]

[quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1288808151' post='4759254']
- Grinder Golem and Sangan
+2 Shining Angel (or any other light monster....need more Sorc food)


I've tested and Grinder just never helps...

Also what about Foolish Burial?
[/quote]

Didn't want to concentrate too much on Chaos... I mean, I like him in my Fortune Ladies, but here, he's just so out of place... Effect Veiler? Very variable, Light, a Tuner (though that's only a minor thing), discardable... yeah, if I would want to support Chaos, I would definitely choose... her... him... eh...

But alright, I'll take Grinder out and add another Queen for now.

Foolish Burial? That's not a Zombie Deck

[Legend Zero]

Foolish can go for Chaos or if you open with Revival.

As for Veiler I can't really say....nobody in my area (that is good) has one and the bad players won't trade. Gonna have to wait for price drop.

I am liking this deck though, because its Spellcasters. Will keep testing. =P

EDIT: neg Queen and add another Duality.

[Spoon]

[quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1288821900' post='4759771']
Foolish can go for Chaos or if you open with Revival.

As for Veiler I can't really say....nobody in my area (that is good) has one and the bad players won't trade. Gonna have to wait for price drop.

I am liking this deck though, because its Spellcasters. Will keep testing. =P

EDIT: neg Queen and add another Duality.
[/quote]

Done... though I personally rather keep the Queen and neg something else for the third Duality... any ideas?

And yeah, I like it too... it doesn't win matches, but it's really fun to play... if you could only see the faces of the players you're playing against online... it would be a pleasure, I'm sure

[Legend Zero]

[quote name='Spoon' timestamp='1288892660' post='4761273']
Done... though I personally rather keep the Queen and neg something else for the third Duality... any ideas?

And yeah, I like it too... it doesn't win matches, but it's really fun to play... if you could only see the faces of the players you're playing against online... it would be a pleasure, I'm sure
[/quote]
Thats why IRL is better. =3

Of course this isn't for using against meta but the trolling you do is sooo sweet. I used this deck (except I only have 1 Duality atm) against a casual player, I ended up with Bind, Village, Pikeru, and Curran. Of course I set it up after he wasted his MST. ;D

[Spoon]

[quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1288900184' post='4761510']
Thats why IRL is better. =3[/quote]

But expensive as well

[quote]Of course this isn't for using against meta but the trolling you do is sooo sweet. I used this deck (except I only have 1 Duality atm) against a casual player, I ended up with Bind, Village, Pikeru, and Curran. Of course I set it up after he wasted his MST. ;D[/quote]

Hehe... yeah, as long as it's fun to play, the deck is great But... I feel too passive in this one. It's fun, sure, but I want to [i]act[/i] a little more rather than [i]react[/i]... so, this deck is alright now, if anybody still has any more ideas, c'mon with it, but I won't bump this deck to death anymore... thanks for all the help, I dealt out some Reps to show my appreciation

And since I discovered that I actually like creating unusual decks... onto the next one! Look forward to it, thread will be up in due time

So long, and thanks once more... this section doesn't suck that much after all

Spoon

[Wic0]

um... ok...

egg hater.