Master White Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 This card to me would be relatively easy to Summon, it is treated as an Special Summon and the bad effect isn't bad. This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by removing from play 2 Fiend-Type Monsters from your Graveyard. [b]Okay, Relatively Easy to Summon. Especially with Infernities. [/b] When this card inflicts damage to your opponent, remove from play all DARK Fiend-Type Monsters in your opponent's Graveyard [b]Okay, now this is where its effect is bad. Your opponent probably won't be using fiends, but if they do, this would be great. Now, I could see this as an abused side in card for the main reason of certain archetypes. Second, this is still overpowered yet underpowered at the Same Time. Meaning its Situational. If it worked on your own monsters, than it'd be better, but extremely overpowered. But leave it as is b/c not many use fiend-type monsters, if they do, its for either X-Sabers or Infernities, which need to be taught a lesson in my opinion. [/b] and inflict damage to your opponent equal to the total level of each Monster removed x100. This effect can only be used once. [b]This effect here is okay, but it is also bad. What makes this card balanced is the playability of this card in a real meta deck is very very hard to do, so it might be over pwoered, but the only way to actually have this playable is an non-meta deck. So, hope it helps. Playability = Balanced Overpowered = In Between OCG = Could be better, But Still good, I'm not complaining Overall: Very Very Good for your first card. I do not give out numbers anymore, just strongly critique on cards.[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manpole Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 [quote name='Smesh' timestamp='1292530329' post='4857346'] No. Easy to Summon balances the bad effect. [/quote] Bad effect? It removes any level 5 or lower monster in your opponents Graveyard from play after it deals damage, and as if that is not good enough, it also deals damage equal to all their levels combined x200! That could easily exceed 3000 damage (4 level 4 monsters). Plus it has 2600 ATK and as you said, is easy to summon. I do not see how this cards effect is bad... Before he updated the card it may of been UP, because then it would only be good against a Fiend deck (If I remember correctly), and its attack was 600 lower; but as of recent, this card is nowhere near UP. [b]I completely agree with Lexadin. This card is OP.[/b] Btw this card seems to be changing quite a bit, so I'll post its lore that my response is based off of here : [i]Lore: This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by removing from play 2 Fiend-Type Monsters from your Graveyard. When this card inflicts damage to your opponent, remove from play all level 5 or lower Monsters in your opponent's Graveyard and inflict damage to your opponent equal to the total level of each Monster removed x200.[/i] ATK 2600 DEF 2100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Ahh. nevermind, I cirtique differently now on.... I was just going to say though, what is the most played archetype and does it have fiend monsters in them, if so, then this is op'd, if not, it's tiny bit op'd. The Playability of this card is what balances it out if you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smesh Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 [quote name='Manpole' timestamp='1292533575' post='4857487'] Bad effect? It removes any level 5 or lower monster in your opponents Graveyard from play after it deals damage, and as if that is not good enough, it also deals damage equal to all their levels combined x200! [/quote] In other words: slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manpole Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 [quote name='Smesh' timestamp='1292534025' post='4857505'] In other words: slow. [/quote] No, not at all.. are you reading the cards effect? "...remove from play [b]all[/b] level 5 or lower Monsters in your opponent's Graveyard and inflict damage to your opponent equal to the total level of each Monster removed x200." So if you had 3 level 4 monsters, and 1 level 5 monster in your graveyard, and I inflicted battle damage even once, I could remove them all from play and deal 3400 damage to you. Not slow at all. If the effect said "...remove from play 1 level 5 or lower Monster from your opponent's Graveyard and inflict damage to your opponent equal to its level x200." and if its ATK was lowered by... say 400? Then this card wouldn't be so OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smesh Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 [quote name='Manpole' timestamp='1292534357' post='4857518'] No, not at all.. are you reading the cards effect? "...remove from play [b]all[/b] level 5 or lower Monsters in your opponent's Graveyard and inflict damage to your opponent equal to the total level of each Monster removed x200." So if you had 3 level 4 monsters, and 1 level 5 monster in your graveyard, and I inflicted battle damage even once, I could remove them all from play and deal 3400 damage to you. Not slow at all. If the effect said "...remove from play 1 level 5 or lower Monster from your opponent's Graveyard and inflict damage to your opponent equal to its level x200." and if its ATK was lowered by... say 400? Then this card wouldn't be so OP. [/quote] Didn't see the level part. Damn. I wanted your argument to be invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manpole Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Lol sorry to disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyrod07 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 i can only attach so many cards here are some zombie cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Crud, didn't see the level, my fault. I was that way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel. Posted December 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 so instead of x200 dmg to x100 dmg and lowering its ATK to 2000-2200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavens Guardian Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 good edit i am a numb but to me its great.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel. Posted December 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Lol sorry about the "remove from play ALL monsters" forgot to edit the Lore but he card effect said '3' not 'all' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manpole Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 [quote name='rickyrod07' timestamp='1292535055' post='4857569'] i can only attach so many cards here are some zombie cards [/quote] Do not post your cards in other peoples threads... I would advise removing the post before a Mod sees it. Oh, and @WhatYouTalkinBoutWillis, I think the updated card effect makes this a much more balanced card! Not OP or UP, just about perfect now. Nice card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel. Posted December 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 Appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 I see, you edited. Nice. [b]Mors Mortis - Death Incarnate LV 6 DARK Fiend Effect 2000/2100 This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by removing from play 2 Fiend-Type Monsters from your Graveyard. When this card inflicts damage to your opponent, remove from play 3 level 5 or lower Monsters in your opponent's Graveyard and inflict damage to your opponent equal to the total level of each Monster removed x100. [/b] The summoning clause I already commented on. Except now the effect is better. WAY better. It's a faster, Fiend-only Kycoo which can burn. Quite devastating against grave control decks. Which is something I'd like. It's not OP because there aren't much high-tier Fiends. Fableds can use this, of course, in the side deck. And it's between OP and balanced, which I consider to be the best place a RC should go in. 10/10. I first thought it should be 9/10, but I found no valid reason, and making it -1 for no reason was just stupid. Great work. You win at this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel. Posted December 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 woo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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