My Deck>Tronta's

[Brandon Michael Geren]

main
1 Morphing Jar
2 Needle Worm
3 Giant Rat
3 A/D Changer
1 Sangan

3 Hand Destruction
1 Giant Trunade
1 Foolish Burial
2 Magical Stone Excavation
2 The Shallow Grave
3 Into The Void
2 Creature Swap
3 Book of Moon
3 Book of Eclipse
3 Book of Taiyou
1 Card Destruction
3 Upstart Goblin
2 A Feather of the Phoenix
1 Monster Reborn

extra
1 Blackwing Armor Master
14 Cards in sleeves

side
2 Machina Force
3 Machina Fortress
3 Machina Gearframe
1 Limiter Removal
3 Machina Peacekeeper
1 Creature Swap
2 Junk Synchron

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D:

[Brandon Michael Geren]

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D:
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Junk Synchron is pro tech. So is Armour Master. EDIT: Should I switch it to Gottoms?

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If you switch it to Gottoms, they will be prepared for the worst.
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[Brandon Michael Geren]

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If you switch it to Gottoms, they will be prepared for the worst.
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They'll be prepared to play Bottomless.

FINE I'll just use Shooting Star or something.

[Tronta]

nice netdeck pro.

any particular reason you're running reborn and not sunlight?

[Mehmani]

No Desert Sunlight and Shallow Grave @2? wtf?

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Literally a Decree format.

[Brandon Michael Geren]

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Literally a Decree format.
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Q4E

@Russian Guy: Ewwwww 3rd Shallow

wtf no comments on the side or the extra

[Tronta]

2 shallow is alright i think.

and even though it's a decree format, they shouldn't get the turn to use it.
trunade is a good tech option as well for that.

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You don't always go first and you don't always get a decent opening hand

[Brandon Michael Geren]

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You don't always go first and you don't always get a decent opening hand
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This. If you don't draw Jar, you lose.

I played vs a guy who ran Darkmagician.dek and didn't draw Jar. He won. /D:
I won the match tho. And, oddly, that's the only time I've lost against something besides Quickdraw. I've only won 1 game out of 4 vs quickdraw. /D:

[Tronta]

again, trunade makes a good tech option.

also, did you really just change the topic title? you netdecked this. way to be pro.

explain why you're using reborn again?

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Why not run Reborn? :<

[Brandon Michael Geren]

[quote name='Tronta' timestamp='1293150061' post='4878458']
again, trunade makes a good tech option.

also, did you really just change the topic title? you netdecked this. way to be pro.

explain why you're using reborn again?
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Where did I netdeck it from?

Good Empty Jar builds look similar, but I didn't netdeck.

Book of Moon, Eclipse. Won me the game a few times, hasn't lost it for me.

[Tronta]

your deck =
http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/233311-empty-jar-topped/
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http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/233311-empty-jar-topped/page__view__findpost__p__4873243
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swap trunade for reborn.


this also the deck i've been using for a while now, except with feathers and creature swaps instead of sunlight and a third shallow and something else.


so yeah, only thing i can think of is dropping reborn for trunade. if you're not even running the third shallow, why run reborn? it's a liability by comparison in all but a few isolated circumstances.

[Brandon Michael Geren]

[quote name='Tronta' timestamp='1293157797' post='4878803']
your deck =
http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/233311-empty-jar-topped/
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http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/233311-empty-jar-topped/page__view__findpost__p__4873243
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swap trunade for reborn.


this also the deck i've been using for a while now, except with feathers and creature swaps instead of sunlight and a third shallow and something else.


so yeah, only thing i can think of is dropping reborn for trunade. if you're not even running the third shallow, why run reborn? it's a liability by comparison in all but a few isolated circumstances.
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All good E jar decks look similar. :L also, I have Trunade.

Feather is good. Swap is good. It's not a liability. It's good. :L

fein be a f**.

[Tronta]

but your deck is literally what inconsistentdecks posted then fixed, with the exception of one card. a one card difference is hardly 'similar'.

and feather and swap are alright. i haven't tested them as much as i should have.

anyway, trunade is probably better for you than reborn, especially when you aren't running 3 shallow. reborn should be something you add after you max out shallows. and it IS a liability when you have reborn but not a book to flip it down with, as opposed to having another shallow.

and don't call me a f**. you're the one calling me out here, asshat.

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Meh, nobody has rated/fixed this deck.

[Brandon Michael Geren]

[quote name='Tronta' timestamp='1293168577' post='4879261']
but your deck is literally what inconsistentdecks posted then fixed, with the exception of one card. a one card difference is hardly 'similar'.

and feather and swap are alright. i haven't tested them as much as i should have.

anyway, trunade is probably better for you than reborn, especially when you aren't running 3 shallow. reborn should be something you add after you max out shallows. and it IS a liability when you have reborn but not a book to flip it down with, as opposed to having another shallow.

and don't call me a f**. you're the one calling me out here, asshat.
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I'm sorry that my deck is good just like the one that did good at OCG locals?

ok

I have Trunade. I Reborn Rats often. As in Hand Dest -> Discard Rat + AD -> Reborn -> Grab Jar -> gaem. Happens often.

I like asshats. They don't always fit, though.

[Tronta]

my apologies on trunade, i didn't see it.

and meh. run it if you will. i don't know that i would. i believe more often you'd be in situations where you would prefer a shallow to a reborn.

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u rite, after testing:

The Shallow Grave > Monster Reborn