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This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by removing from play 4 Dragon-Type monsters from your Graveyard and 1 "Stardust Dragon", "Ancient Fairy Dragon", "Red Archfiend Dragon", "Black Rose Dragon" or "Life Stream Dragon" you control and by it's own effect. This card, for the remainder of the duel, gains the effect, ATK and DEF of the monster you controlled and removed to Summon this card. When this card is removed from the field, you can return 1 removed monster your removed to Summon this card to your Garveyard and remove from play 1 "Stardust Dragon", "Ancient Fairy Dragon", "Red Archfiend Dragon", "Black Rose Dragon" or "Life Stream Dragon" from your Extra Deck Special Summon this card during your next Standby Phase, add the removed monster's effect, ATK and DEF to this card. You can only activate this effect Max 4 times per duel. [/spoiler][/center]

BTW It's supposed to be LIGHT Attribute and I have it saved and generated as LIGHT so don't ask me why it's DIVINE Attribute XD
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[quote]This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by removing from play 4 Dragon-Type monsters from your Graveyard and 1 "Stardust Dragon", "Ancient Fairy Dragon", "Red Archfiend Dragon", "Black Rose Dragon" or "Life Stream Dragon" you control and by it's own effect. This card, for the remainder of the duel, gains the effect, ATK and DEF of the monster you controlled and removed to Summon this card. When this card is removed from the field, you can return 1 removed monster your removed to Summon this card to your Garveyard and remove from play 1 "Stardust Dragon", "Ancient Fairy Dragon", "Red Archfiend Dragon", "Black Rose Dragon" or "Life Stream Dragon" from your Extra Deck Special Summon this card during your next Standby Phase, add the removed monster's effect, ATK and DEF to this card. You can only activate this effect Max 4 times per duel. [/quote]

I noticed grammar/spelling errors. When you say "from your Graveyard, and 1" you should say "from your Graveyard, 1..." because it's improper to have 3 "and"s in the same sentence. "Gains the effect" you mean this monster gains the effect of ALL the monsters you removed to summon this card? No wait, you said you had to also choose between the 5 other dragons you controlled. So that means, out of the 5, this monster gains the effect of that monster. Wait, then why does it say "ATK and DEF of the monster you controlled and removed to summon this card"? You had to remove 4+1 out of the five in the selection. So that basically means you removed 5. But it only says gains the effect of one. That's another error that you made, because if you had the dragons in your Graveyard, that must've meant you also controlled them. Therefore, you should gain the effect of one of them by this card's effect. But I see that wasn't what you were aiming for.

"you can return 1 removed monster your removed" It's supposed to be "you removed" not "your removed". What is a "Garveyard"? I only know of "Graveyard". Another error on that part. "Extra Deck" What extra deck? You mean the Fusion Deck? No, they aren't fusion cards though, are they? You mean the removed from play pile?

"Extra Deck Special Summon" You were supposed to add a period after "Deck". After this card is destroyed, you can Special Summon it again four times in your Standby Phases? Isn't that a big overpowered? Also, when you say "removed monster you removed", that's redundant. You have to say "monster you removed".

Also, why is that monster a Divine Attribute? What, it generated as light, but it turned up as Divine? What happened? How could it be a Divine attribute yet you wanted it to be Light? Maybe edit the card so you selected "Light" as the attribute?

Overall, this card deserves a 6/10. I mean, not only is the effect extremely hard to read because of its mistakes but it is quite overpowered too, only requiring you to remove from play a card from the five monsters you listed every single time so you can Special Summon this card again.

My suggestion to you is, make a card, proofread it, and make sure it is the right attribute (it isn't that hard) before you send it out into the "Realistic Cards" section.
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K first of your smart ass attitude isn't needed, secondly, don't lecture me what needs to be in Realistic Cards I've been here a lot longer then you, although you did make some interesting [points but only on the grammer and nothing else. Okay "Gains the effect, ATK and DEF of the ""monster"" you controlled and removed", now monster is not plural thereby it means 1, so we are looking for 1 monster based off the criteria "Controlled and Removed" now think hard, do you control monsters from your Graveyard? No, do you control monsters ont he field? Yes, now as simple as that is to understand I can not see why you had to try to add so much detail into trying to make a reason of a sentance even an infant can understand.

My suggestion to you is, that if you don't want to look like a dick, you only provide constructive critisicm which i will admit you did some of in your post and for those points I thank you and will REP you, however I know your new so here's a heads up don't lecture people on what you don't know okay? Also I clearly stated under the card That for some reason the Attribute always came out as "Divine" now, I retried applying the LIGHT attribute and generating the card 3 times, all of whiuch it came out as "LIGHT" however whenever it was posted it came out as Divine, if i did not acknolwedge this incident then you can bring it up, but don't try to correct something done wrong if I explain why it is like that.
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Let me do some OCG corrections, since I think I actually understand the effect. Ways I think might make more sense are in bold, though that isn't much.

[spoiler=My corrections]
This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by removing from play 4 Dragon-Type monsters from your Graveyard and 1 "Stardust Dragon", "Ancient Fairy Dragon", "Red Archfiend Dragon", "Black Rose Dragon" or "Life Stream Dragon" you control [b]or[/b] by it's own effect. This card, for the remainder of the duel, gains the effect, ATK and DEF of the monster you controlled and removed to Summon this card. When this card is removed from the field, you can return 1 removed monster you[s]r[/s] removed to [i]Summon this card to your Garveyard[/i] and remove from play 1 "Stardust Dragon", "Ancient Fairy Dragon", "Red Archfiend Dragon", "Black Rose Dragon" or "Life Stream Dragon" from your Extra Deck[b].[/b] Special Summon this card during your next Standby Phase [b]and[/b] add the removed monster's effect, ATK and DEF to this card. You can only activate this effect Max 4 times per duel.
[/spoiler]

The "or" just seems to work better then "and" in this situation, at least it does for me. The stuck out r on "your" should be easy to figure out. The italicized bit I don't understand, so it would be nice if you gave an explanation. The period between "Deck" and "Special" just seemed like it would make things easier to understand, and the last "and" just needed to go there.

I do think it's OP'd, just because it comes back stronger every time. Black Rose's effect might not be used very much and I don't even know about Life Stream yet, but all you need to do is start by removing Stardust for its effect, then you can use Stardust's effect to negate some destruction, then because it's removed from the field you get the extra SS effect this card has.

Other reason is Imagine a card that can negate destruction, destroy all Defense monsters the opponent has, destroy field spells and SS other monsters at the cost of an attack, All with 7600 ATK. And that's not even counting that 4th monster.

Yes, it does have strict Summoning requirements, but I don't think it's that hard to get 1 synchro out and 4 monsters in the Graveyard.

Well, that's my 2 cents. Maybe an explanation of that italicized part will change my mind.
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Lol, lecturing you. Why does it matter that you have been here longer than me? That doesn't make you any smarter in the yugioh world...

Oh and also, you said CONTROLLED. When you mean CONTROLLED, you mean any monster card you CONTROLLED. And it just so HAPPENED that you had to removed 4 dragons in your graveyard from play. THAT MEANS YOU CONTROLLED THEM BEFORE. THAT MEANS YOU CAN ALSO GAIN THEIR EFFECT. Sure, you don't CONTROL monsters in your Graveyard, but you sure as hell CONTROLLED them before. Don't you understand past tense? I'm being the smart ass? Listen to how much nonsense is in your post.

You OBVIOUSLY can't read at all based on your post and how awful the card description was. I wasn't being a smart ass, I was telling you that there were many errors that needed to be corrected. Sure, I had an error on my part (there was no mistake with when you said Extra Deck; because the Fusion Deck is somehow the "Extra" Deck now), but other than that, I don't see how I made any mistake with my posts.

And, by god, you can't even do the simplest stuff. You generated it Light 3 times, yet it came out as Divine? That must have meant you did SOMETHING wrong. I mean, that's not even remotely possible. I can't see that happening unless you screwed it up. Badly.

Another thing is, you posted the same thing 5 times in a row. Did you even come and say "woops I posted 5 times in a row"? No you didn't.
You're telling ME that I'm new and I'm making mistakes, when you so obviously made a mistake yourself.

I CAN tell you how Realistic Cards work, it doesn't matter HOW long you have been here than me. This is a card MAKER forum, not a card TEACHER forum.

Honestly, it's quite laughable at your work with you saying "lecture". Often a person with your grammar/spelling/logic needs to be lectured some. But I didn't even lecture you. Like I said, I only posted criticism on your work. And how bad that is, too.

Bottom point, don't tell me I don't know something when you so obviously don't. It's sad that I have to criticize you instead of criticizing the actual card.
If you don't care as much as delivering this card with NO checks to its description whatsoever, then you probably shouldn't be making cards.
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[quote name='Shadow-Master' timestamp='1294059946' post='4908753']
Lol, lecturing you. Why does it matter that you have been here longer than me? That doesn't make you any smarter in the yugioh world...

Oh and also, you said CONTROLLED. When you mean CONTROLLED, you mean any monster card you CONTROLLED. And it just so HAPPENED that you had to removed 4 dragons in your graveyard from play. THAT MEANS YOU CONTROLLED THEM BEFORE. THAT MEANS YOU CAN ALSO GAIN THEIR EFFECT. Sure, you don't CONTROL monsters in your Graveyard, but you sure as hell CONTROLLED them before. Don't you understand past tense? I'm being the smart ass? Listen to how much nonsense is in your post.

[b]Caps lock makes you seem mad. Try not to insult others also.[/b]

You OBVIOUSLY can't read at all based on your post and how awful the card description was. I wasn't being a smart ass, I was telling you that there were many errors that needed to be corrected. Sure, I had an error on my part (there was no mistake with when you said Extra Deck; because the Fusion Deck is somehow the "Extra" Deck now), but other than that, I don't see how I made any mistake with my posts.

[b]You somehow managed the part on the first post that [i]said[/i] he couldn't figure out why it was coming out divine.[/b]

And, by god, you can't even do the simplest stuff. You generated it Light 3 times, yet it came out as Divine? That must have meant you did SOMETHING wrong. I mean, that's not even remotely possible. I can't see that happening unless you screwed it up. Badly.

[b]Sometimes the cardmaker screws up. I've had times where it took me 5 tries to post a set because every time I clicked on a new card for the code, the same card would be processed, thus posting the same card several times.[/b]

Another thing is, you posted the same thing 5 times in a row. Did you even come and say "woops I posted 5 times in a row"? No you didn't.
You're telling ME that I'm new and I'm making mistakes, when you so obviously made a mistake yourself.

[b]Website sometimes doesn't load properly, causing people to get impatient and click the "post" button several times before it fully loads. I know I wouldn't have bothered to check if I had.[/b]

I CAN tell you how Realistic Cards work, it doesn't matter HOW long you have been here than me. This is a card MAKER forum, not a card TEACHER forum.

[b]So you mean I can go make other cards and disregard all comments people give me? Cool![/b]

Honestly, it's quite laughable at your work with you saying "lecture". Often a person with your grammar/spelling/logic needs to be lectured some. But I didn't even lecture you. Like I said, I only posted criticism on your work. And how bad that is, too.

[b]The way you said things didn't sound very nice.[/b]

Bottom point, don't tell me I don't know something when you so obviously don't. It's sad that I have to criticize you instead of criticizing the actual card.
If you don't care as much as delivering this card with NO checks to its description whatsoever, then you probably shouldn't be making cards.

[b]I don't double check all my cards, its just Funny thing is, if that last paragraph in your first post wasn't there, this would have never happened.[/b]
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And yes Bluster, that was the part, it's just confusing when you say "Summon this card to the Graveyard"
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[b]Caps lock makes you seem mad. Try not to insult others also.[/b]

Sorry, but I'm pointing out the certain things that he might not understand individually.

[b]You somehow managed the part on the first post that said he couldn't figure out why it was coming out divine.[/b]

If he couldn't figure it out, then something must have been wrong. That's what I was trying to say.

[b]Sometimes the cardmaker screws up. I've had times where it took me 5 tries to post a set because every time I clicked on a new card for the code, the same card would be processed, thus posting the same card several times.[/b]

Hmm. When has this happened? I have processed over 40 cards so far and no flaw whatsoever happened.

[b]Website sometimes doesn't load properly, causing people to get impatient and click the "post" button several times before it fully loads. I know I wouldn't have bothered to check if I had.[/b]

That's no excuse. Then he's impatient, thus causing another mistake. It's still his fault in the end.

[b]So you mean I can go make other cards and disregard all comments people give me? Cool![/b]

What? What does that have to do with anything?

[b]The way you said things didn't sound very nice.[/b]

He didn't post a nice response, either. Nor did he ask for one. It's an eye for an eye here.

[b]I don't double check all my cards, its just Funny thing is, if that last paragraph in your first post wasn't there, this would have never happened.[/b]

What? So if I didn't create that last paragraph you would always double check your cards? Also, I was conveying him so he checks his cards. At least once. Any person who creates cards, no matter the expert level, should check their cards. It doesn't have to be a double check.
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[quote name='Shadow-Master' timestamp='1294075663' post='4909030']
[b]Sometimes the cardmaker screws up. I've had times where it took me 5 tries to post a set because every time I clicked on a new card for the code, the same card would be processed, thus posting the same card several times.[/b]

Hmm. When has this happened? I have processed over 40 cards so far and no flaw whatsoever happened.

[i]Apparently you haven't been here long enough for this to happen to you. It happened to me yesterday on my 7 new Excess Monsters.[/i]

[b]Website sometimes doesn't load properly, causing people to get impatient and click the "post" button several times before it fully loads. I know I wouldn't have bothered to check if I had.[/b]

That's no excuse. Then he's impatient, thus causing another mistake. It's still his fault in the end.

[i]Perhaps you don't understand that this website has its ups and downs for every single member in terms of getting things loaded. The same thing will happen to you eventually.[/i][/quote]


Now then.

For the card:

I read your note on your cardmaker problems with the attribute. Not a big deal. Just edit your post with the LIGHT version when your cardmaker isn't on the fritz.
Personally though, I prefer it as DIVINE. That's just my preference though xD

OCG fix:

This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by removing from play 4 Dragon-Type monsters from your Graveyard and 1 "Stardust Dragon", "Ancient Fairy Dragon", "Red Archfiend Dragon", "Black Rose Dragon" or "Life Stream Dragon" you control or by its own effect. For the remainder of the duel, this card gains the ATK, DEF, and effect of the monster you controlled and removed to Summon this card. When this card is removed from the field, you can return 1 removed from play monster used to Summon this card to your Garveyard and remove from play 1 "Stardust Dragon", "Ancient Fairy Dragon", "Red Archfiend Dragon", "Black Rose Dragon" or "Life Stream Dragon" from your Extra Deck to Special Summon this card during your next Standby Phase. This card gains the ATK, DEF, and effect of the removed from play monster. You can only activate this effect 4 times per duel.

Or something like that XD

Personally, I would say that this is OPed, but it takes FIVE monsters to Summon this card. On top of that, the way you worded it, it only gains the stats and effect of 1 Signer Dragon. So actually it's UPed, since it's 5 monsters for the stats and effect of 1.

It's basically a -5 Summon with an exact copy of the Signer Dragon used for its Summon, with a different name.
Not worth the Summon.

I don't know what to tell you, but yeah...

You forgot "Black-Winged Dragon" by the way.
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Your conversation is hilarious. Thanks, this is the first time I can laugh since my grandpa died. But Shadow-Master is right: he didn't was a smart ass, he just corrected you. It doesn't mater how long you're here. Some newbs are better than members that are longer on this forum. You always have to check your cards if you want to post them. And if you find a mistake and you can't correct your card, just don't post it.

That was my opinion.
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I said it was his fault for not being patient enough. Personally, if I had that problem, I would wait it out and THEN submit my posts. Even if the site has its ups - and -downs, you still have to deal with it the proper way.

I would say the card is a little overpowered in the sense of you only removing from play dragon type monsters. Removing from play isn't that hard and all you would need to do is have dragons destroyed to the graveyard. However, I cannot say that this card isn't balanced considering I don't know what 5 other dragons (that you had to choose out of) ATK and DEF are. I guess they are Fusion Monsters so they would have like more than 2000 ATK.

Basically, if you have a complete Dragon-type deck, you can rule with this card easily.

My final rating is: 7.5/10
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Thankyou Shadow-master you gimp, I haven't had a good argument in a while so here I go:

First off you're a loser. Second off look at this:

I noticed grammar/spelling errors. When you say "from your Graveyard, and 1" you should say "from your Graveyard, 1..." because it's improper to have 3 "and"s in the same sentence. "Gains the effect" you mean this monster gains the effect of ALL the monsters you removed to summon this card? No wait, you said you had to also choose between the 5 other dragons you controlled. So that means, out of the 5, this monster gains the effect of that monster. Wait, then why does it say "ATK and DEF of the monster you controlled and removed to summon this card"? You had to remove 4+1 out of the five in the selection. So that basically means you removed 5. [b]But it only says gains the effect of one. That's another error that you made, because if you had the dragons in your Graveyard, that must've meant you also controlled them. [/b]Therefore, you should gain the effect of one of them by this card's effect. But I see that wasn't what you were aiming for.
[b]
"you can return 1 removed monster your removed" It's supposed to be "you removed" not "your removed". What is a "Garveyard"? I only know of "Graveyard".[/b] [b]Another error on that part. "Extra Deck" What extra deck? You mean the Fusion Deck? No, they aren't fusion cards though, are they? You mean the removed from play pile?[/b]

"Extra Deck Special Summon" You were supposed to add a period after "Deck". After this card is destroyed, you can Special Summon it again four times in your Standby Phases? Isn't that a big overpowered? Also, when you say "removed monster you removed", that's redundant. You have to say "monster you removed".

[b]Also, why is that monster a Divine Attribute? What, it generated as light, but it turned up as Divine? What happened? How could it be a Divine attribute yet you wanted it to be Light? Maybe edit the card so you selected "Light" as the attribute? [/b]

Overall, this card deserves a 6/10. I mean, not only is the effect extremely hard to read because of its mistakes but it is quite overpowered too, only requiring you to remove from play a card from the five monsters you listed every single time so you can Special Summon this card again.

[b]My suggestion to you is, make a card, proofread it, and make sure it is the right attribute (it isn't that hard) before you send it out into the "Realistic Cards" section[/b]

Key: The Bold is where you're a smart ass

Thirdly, if you had even the slightest bit of a brain in that thick head of yours you'd notice that i Repped you? Now why the heel would someone do that? Okay you were being a smart ass and I pointed it out, I also stated that you did make some good points which is why I repped you so why the hell are you having a fit loser? 4thly, Caps Lock. Caps lock just proves not only you think your tough but also your're trying to appear intimidating, let me tell you this "kid" if you're gonna post s*** like that then you're best not to post on my threads.

End Phase-
[b]Your conversation is hilarious. Thanks, this is the first time I can laugh since my grandpa died. But Shadow-Master is right: he didn't was a smart ass, he just corrected you. It doesn't mater how long you're here. Some newbs are better than members that are longer on this forum. You always have to check your cards if you want to post them. And if you find a mistake and you can't correct your card, just don't post it.[/b]

You're not getting any sympathy for your grandpa from me.

"You always have to check your cards if you want to post them."

Thankyou I've only made 1,100 posts in Realistic Cards haven't I? It's the fricken attribute which i stated was done unwillingly therefor I'm pretty sure normal people can overlook the fact and consider it as LIGHT attribute as I specified, oh and thx for the Neg Rep for no reason, enjoy your time with me here.

The finale:
[b]
Oh and also, you said CONTROLLED. When you mean CONTROLLED, you mean any monster card you CONTROLLED. And it just so HAPPENED that you had to removed 4 dragons in your graveyard from play. THAT MEANS YOU CONTROLLED THEM BEFORE. THAT MEANS YOU CAN ALSO GAIN THEIR EFFECT. Sure, you don't CONTROL monsters in your Graveyard, but you sure as hell CONTROLLED them before. Don't you understand past tense? I'm being the smart ass? Listen to how much nonsense is in your post. [/b]

You are smart in the "Yugioh world"...ew even typing that makes me feel dirty, common sense would dictate here, can jinzo be destroyed by bottomless trap hole? (if not then disregard this, but I think he can) But he negates Traps? The Rulings wuld specify that it was only the card you cotnrolled upon its summon. When you ask yourself questtions in this form: "So you used caps on words that you wanted to highlight like "controlled" but then why did you caps lock the effect part to? Wait, so does that mean you want to highlight another issue? no wait, then why did you even caps Locking them if you just look like a fool?" See what I mean? Gives a stuck up smart ass image.


[b]You OBVIOUSLY can't read at all based on your post and how awful the card description was. I wasn't being a smart ass, I was telling you that there were many errors that needed to be corrected. Sure, I had an error on my part (there was no mistake with when you said Extra Deck; because the Fusion Deck is somehow the "Extra" Deck now), but other than that, I don't see how I made any mistake with my posts.[/b]

Again with the caps lock, okay loser whatever you reckon, I can't read? hahaha to think that you questioned yourself during your first post only to give off the image that you are someone I should look up to is laughable, you didn't even know that Fusion Deck was now the Extra Deck wtf. "Somehow" the extra deck? So because you didn't know that (lol) that makes it wierd and not make sense? When you question yourself in your post, if you honestly don't see how you can project a smart alec image then your retarded.

[b]And, by god, you can't even do the simplest stuff. You generated it Light 3 times, yet it came out as Divine? That must have meant you did SOMETHING wrong. I mean, that's not even remotely possible. I can't see that happening unless you screwed it up. Badly. [/b]

Either that or the cardmaker screwed up? Nah but I guess only people that aren't morons could understand that. Yes because everything over the net is done to perfection in which no errors are ever found on any website or foru- oh wait. And you can dot he simplest things? Like comprehend how someone acts like a smart ass? oh wait...no you can't?

[b]Another thing is, you posted the same thing 5 times in a row. Did you even come and say "woops I posted 5 times in a row"? No you didn't.
You're telling ME that I'm new and I'm making mistakes, when you so obviously made a mistake yourself.[/b]

Derrrrrr, it should be obvious shouldn't it? What the hell other kind of explanation could there be? Now you're just tryng to look for anything to div ert the attention off you well it's not so continue with your posting. It's called "Lag" and alot of people do it on a regular basis, you obviously haven't been here long enough to know that master.

[b]I CAN tell you how Realistic Cards work, it doesn't matter HOW long you have been here than me. This is a card MAKER forum, not a card TEACHER forum.[/b]

Let me ask you soemthing, why do you post cards? it it to see areas to improve so you know where to improve or is it to be told your great and perfect in every way. It is a teaching forum in which you post to be taught where to improve, if you weren't so dimwitted you would have acknowledged that from my first post and why I repped you in the first place, but then again you are new, just one of those ones who thinks their god.

[b]Honestly, it's quite laughable at your work with you saying "lecture". Often a person with your grammar/spelling/logic needs to be lectured some. But I didn't even lecture you. Like I said, I only posted criticism on your work. And how bad that is, too. [/b]

Critiscism (constuctivly done) is the reason why i gave you a rep are you blind??? I posted to say that you were a smart ass in your post, now you could have simply replied "where" and i could have pointed it out but now instead we have this feud. it is a teaching forum learn to be taught.

[b]Bottom point, don't tell me I don't know something when you so obviously don't. It's sad that I have to criticize you instead of criticizing the actual card.
If you don't care as much as delivering this card with NO checks to its description whatsoever, then you probably shouldn't be making cards.[/b]

Yea alright were you sitting with me checking the card and watching what I did as I made it? No, how the hell do you know? You took a guess because you found spelling errors, FYI, I actually did check over it a couple of times and kept editing it, to be honesty I couldn't fidn the right phrases I needed and when i think it was I put it down.

Summary: This is a "teching" forum, learn to be taught and how not to be a smart ass, Extra Deck replaces Fusion Deck, Consider why people REP you before you have a cry when someone points something out to you, Don't use Caps Lock, I am at the moment, teaching you thaat using caps lock will only turn out bad for you, but you're new so I can sorta understand.

Continue this if you like but I've decided I'm done with people like you, so continue if you like I just won't respond on this thread. Enjoy my critiquing now on future cards that you make.

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@ Shion Keto: I think Black Winged dragon isn't one of the five signer dragons, I put Life Stream Dragon in there instead because his the actual signer dragon, also thx for the OCG correction and post.
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Sorry Shadow, that last bit was supposed to just say that the last sentence of your first post is the main cause for the entire arguement. I don't know what I was doing when I posted that bit.

And Bluster, just because he not posting nice remarks doesn't mean you can insult him by calling him a loser. We've already had a topic where 4 people got temp banned because of flaming, can we just stop this right here before we get another topic like that?
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[quote name='Bluster Soldier' timestamp='1294093749' post='4909576']
Thankyou Shadow-master you gimp, I haven't had a good argument in a while so here I go:

First off you're a loser. Second off look at this:

[b]You're an idiot.[/b]

I noticed grammar/spelling errors. When you say "from your Graveyard, and 1" you should say "from your Graveyard, 1..." because it's improper to have 3 "and"s in the same sentence. "Gains the effect" you mean this monster gains the effect of ALL the monsters you removed to summon this card? No wait, you said you had to also choose between the 5 other dragons you controlled. So that means, out of the 5, this monster gains the effect of that monster. Wait, then why does it say "ATK and DEF of the monster you controlled and removed to summon this card"? You had to remove 4+1 out of the five in the selection. So that basically means you removed 5. [b]But it only says gains the effect of one. That's another error that you made, because if you had the dragons in your Graveyard, that must've meant you also controlled them. [/b]Therefore, you should gain the effect of one of them by this card's effect. But I see that wasn't what you were aiming for.
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"you can return 1 removed monster your removed" It's supposed to be "you removed" not "your removed". What is a "Garveyard"? I only know of "Graveyard".[/b] [b]Another error on that part. "Extra Deck" What extra deck? You mean the Fusion Deck? No, they aren't fusion cards though, are they? You mean the removed from play pile?[/b]

"Extra Deck Special Summon" You were supposed to add a period after "Deck". After this card is destroyed, you can Special Summon it again four times in your Standby Phases? Isn't that a big overpowered? Also, when you say "removed monster you removed", that's redundant. You have to say "monster you removed".

[b]Also, why is that monster a Divine Attribute? What, it generated as light, but it turned up as Divine? What happened? How could it be a Divine attribute yet you wanted it to be Light? Maybe edit the card so you selected "Light" as the attribute? [/b]

Overall, this card deserves a 6/10. I mean, not only is the effect extremely hard to read because of its mistakes but it is quite overpowered too, only requiring you to remove from play a card from the five monsters you listed every single time so you can Special Summon this card again.

[b]My suggestion to you is, make a card, proofread it, and make sure it is the right attribute (it isn't that hard) before you send it out into the "Realistic Cards" section[/b]

Key: The Bold is where you're a smart ass
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You make me laugh. You don't even know what "smart ass" means. [/b]

Thirdly, if you had even the slightest bit of a brain in that thick head of yours you'd notice that i Repped you? Now why the heel would someone do that?

[b]Who the hell cares that you repped me? Huh? Why does that matter? [/b]

Okay you were being a smart ass and I pointed it out, I also stated that you did make some good points which is why I repped you so why the hell are you having a fit loser?

[b]I'm having a fit? Kid, I'm just criticizing on the massive total errors you make. Don't be so ignorant that you can't even see that.[/b]

4thly, Caps Lock. Caps lock just proves not only you think your tough but also your're trying to appear intimidating, let me tell you this "kid" if you're gonna post s*** like that then you're best not to post on my threads.

No, caps locks means that you have a brain that's dysfunctional and cannot comprehend certain keywords. So that's why I have to capitalize every letter in the word so you can understand a bit more clear.

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[b]Your conversation is hilarious. Thanks, this is the first time I can laugh since my grandpa died. But Shadow-Master is right: he didn't was a smart ass, he just corrected you. It doesn't mater how long you're here. Some newbs are better than members that are longer on this forum. You always have to check your cards if you want to post them. And if you find a mistake and you can't correct your card, just don't post it.[/b]

You're not getting any sympathy for your grandpa from me.

[b]Yeah? Well, I'm not sure anyone would receive sympathy from you.[/b]

"You always have to check your cards if you want to post them."

Thankyou I've only made 1,100 posts in Realistic Cards haven't I? It's the fricken attribute which i stated was done unwillingly therefor I'm pretty sure normal people can overlook the fact and consider it as LIGHT attribute as I specified, oh and thx for the Neg Rep for no reason, enjoy your time with me here.

The finale:
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Oh and also, you said CONTROLLED. When you mean CONTROLLED, you mean any monster card you CONTROLLED. And it just so HAPPENED that you had to removed 4 dragons in your graveyard from play. THAT MEANS YOU CONTROLLED THEM BEFORE. THAT MEANS YOU CAN ALSO GAIN THEIR EFFECT. Sure, you don't CONTROL monsters in your Graveyard, but you sure as hell CONTROLLED them before. Don't you understand past tense? I'm being the smart ass? Listen to how much nonsense is in your post. [/b]

You are smart in the "Yugioh world"...ew even typing that makes me feel dirty, common sense would dictate here, can jinzo be destroyed by bottomless trap hole? (if not then disregard this, but I think he can) But he negates Traps? The Rulings wuld specify that it was only the card you cotnrolled upon its summon. When you ask yourself questtions in this form: "So you used caps on words that you wanted to highlight like "controlled" but then why did you caps lock the effect part to? Wait, so does that mean you want to highlight another issue? no wait, then why did you even caps Locking them if you just look like a fool?" See what I mean? Gives a stuck up smart ass image.

Yes but see, I had to use the Caps Lock so many times on your countless mistakes your insignificance is rubbing off on me. It gets tiring after proving your wrong 50 times in a row.

Another "smart ass" to me. Do you even know what a "Smart Ass" is? It's being a person that says "The ceiling" after someone asked them "What's up". That's a smart ass. But in the way you just described me, I think you're a total dumbass.


[b]You OBVIOUSLY can't read at all based on your post and how awful the card description was. I wasn't being a smart ass, I was telling you that there were many errors that needed to be corrected. Sure, I had an error on my part (there was no mistake with when you said Extra Deck; because the Fusion Deck is somehow the "Extra" Deck now), but other than that, I don't see how I made any mistake with my posts.[/b]

Again with the caps lock, okay loser whatever you reckon, I can't read?

Yes you CAN'T. If you can't spell simple words right, YOU CAN'T READ PROPERLY. Only a person who actually READS can spell it right.

hahaha to think that you questioned yourself during your first post only to give off the image that you are someone I should look up to is laughable, you didn't even know that Fusion Deck was now the Extra Deck wtf. "Somehow" the extra deck?

I said "somehow" because during all my years playing Yugioh I have never saw the Fusion Deck being called the Extra Deck. That is just stupid.

So because you didn't know that (lol) that makes it wierd and not make sense?

It doesn't make sense for other reasons, not because I didn't know it...

When you question yourself in your post, if you honestly don't see how you can project a smart alec image then your retarded.

I'm posting a smart alec image? You are being hypocritical trash in the other thread and you call this forum the CARD TEACHING FORUM. Obviously you are the one who has delusional images of yourself being better simply because you were here earlier.


[b]And, by god, you can't even do the simplest stuff. You generated it Light 3 times, yet it came out as Divine? That must have meant you did SOMETHING wrong. I mean, that's not even remotely possible. I can't see that happening unless you screwed it up. Badly. [/b]

Either that or the cardmaker screwed up? Nah but I guess only people that aren't morons could understand that. Yes because everything over the net is done to perfection in which no errors are ever found on any website or foru- oh wait. And you can dot he simplest things? Like comprehend how someone acts like a smart ass? oh wait...no you can't?

The reason I said that was because the Card Maker didn't seem like ANYTHING that would screw up. I mean, all you had to do was scroll down and select which attribute. If it worked the previous 60 times (for me anyway), then it is PROBABLY guaranteed to work more.

[b]Another thing is, you posted the same thing 5 times in a row. Did you even come and say "woops I posted 5 times in a row"? No you didn't.
You're telling ME that I'm new and I'm making mistakes, when you so obviously made a mistake yourself.[/b]

Derrrrrr, it should be obvious shouldn't it? What the hell other kind of explanation could there be? Now you're just tryng to look for anything to div ert the attention off you well it's not so continue with your posting. It's called "Lag" and alot of people do it on a regular basis, you obviously haven't been here long enough to know that master.

Sorry, but you are just simply messed up in the head. Derrrrrr, you're an idiot because not only did you say ANYTHING that said "oh woops I posted 5 times, maybe I should fix that?" you did nothing about it either. If it was lag, it was still your fault.

Have you thought of, hehehe, thinking? Yes, there's a new invention called thinking. It's being patient when stuff is lagging and actually WAITING for it to stop lagging. Or perhaps do other things while trying to post it? Do you think you are being any smarter by thinking "LOL HAY, THE "POST" BUTTON ISN'T WORKINIG. MAYBE I SHOULD JUST KEEP ON PRESSING IT DURR HURR"?

[b]I CAN tell you how Realistic Cards work, it doesn't matter HOW long you have been here than me. This is a card MAKER forum, not a card TEACHER forum.[/b]

Let me ask you soemthing, why do you post cards? it it to see areas to improve so you know where to improve or is it to be told your great and perfect in every way. It is a teaching forum in which you post to be taught where to improve, if you weren't so dimwitted you would have acknowledged that from my first post and why I repped you in the first place, but then again you are new, just one of those ones who thinks their god.

We are not students, you dimwit. We come here to show our work and improve. Improving our work and learning aren't the same thing.

I can't post any further, because unlike you, I actually try to make my English as good as possible. And that takes time.
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