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[quote name='Starner30' timestamp='1295695108' post='4950646']
Yeah I guess BTH as no effect on Gravekeeper's, you're right. All their monsters are well over 1500 with Necrovally on board but whatever. I understand the point, I'm most likely going to run a 3rd Solemn Warning and keep both BTH. Seems pretty good to me. I think 3 SW and 2 BTH is better than 2 SW and 2 BTH or 3 SW and 0 BTH.
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BTH does not affect Six Samurai, it doesn't affect Dragunity, it doesn't affect Plants, it sucks against x-sabers, gravekeeper's are not the meta, they topped the last YCS because nobody prepared for them. The only good deck that BTH affects is Blackwings.
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[quote name='Placido.' timestamp='1295695754' post='4950661']
BTH does not affect Six Samurai, it doesn't affect Dragunity, it doesn't affect Plants, it sucks against x-sabers, gravekeeper's are not the meta, they topped the last YCS because nobody prepared for them. The only good deck that BTH affects is Blackwings.
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...Dragunity isn't part of the meta either lol. And it would kill all their synchros even if it was!! X-Saber? Kill Faultroll, Boggartknight, any sychro. Plants doesnt matter I'll have to sideboard something out for crossout. And I run 3 Banisher and 2 King Tiger which pretty much shuts down the whole deck anyway, King Tiger kills everything in that deck without if ands or butts. As for six samurai it wont be top tier till all the Legendary Six Samurai cards come out and most of those are effected by BTH. Still a high quality deck though.
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[quote name='InconsistentDecks' timestamp='1295698462' post='4950772']
Your deck is terrible and loses to Dark Hole.
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Lol, you're right. I lose to dark hole, I guess a 1 for 1 Dark Hole (which is usually what happens to me because most decks want to kill Dyna so they can try to explode) is a auto game win. I forgot about that rule my bad.
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[quote name='Starner30' timestamp='1295698998' post='4950806']
Yep. You're right 1000000%
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Yes, I am correct.

Your whole deck is based around countering a Meta game that doesn't even exist anymore.
You're running 3 Dark Bribe even though that doesn't help you at all. You rely on 1 for 1 destruction, yet you're giving your opponent free cards? wat

You're refusing to run Duality thus you have no draw engine. You're relying on your opening hand and anything you draw after that.

Your Monsters give you no advantage (except from Breaker) therefore Solemn Warning rapes you. Much like how Solemn Warning destroys Light Beat in the OCG.
Because of this, if you have 2 or more of these monsters on your field, Dark Hole rapes you.

Holy ****, you're not even running 2 MST.

tl;dr you're an idiot and your deck is bad.
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[quote name='InconsistentDecks' timestamp='1295700505' post='4950882']
Yes, I am correct.

Your whole deck is based around countering a Meta game that doesn't even exist anymore.
You're running 3 Dark Bribe even though that doesn't help you at all. You rely on 1 for 1 destruction, yet you're giving your opponent free cards? wat

You're refusing to run Duality thus you have no draw engine. You're relying on your opening hand and anything you draw after that.

Your Monsters give you no advantage (except from Breaker) therefore Solemn Warning rapes you. Much like how Solemn Warning destroys Light Beat in the OCG.
Because of this, if you have 2 or more of these monsters on your field, Dark Hole rapes you.


tl;dr you're an idiot and your deck is bad.
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Ok lets start from the beginning. A you JUST said I lose to Solemn Warning which is a COUNTER TRAP. Thats why I run 3 Dark Bribe which is a COUNTER TRAP, congrats you just paid 2000 life to draw 1 card. So since this is a COUNTER TRAP format (i.e. Seven Tools, War Chariot, Barrier and Solemns) I run Dark Bribe. I don't run Seven Tools because of Monster Reborn, Dark Hole and Cold Wave. Which I can also negate and Seven Tools can't. And you JUST said I lose to Dark Hole so since Dark Hole got negated I'm not dead. I'd rather them draw a card after I stop Dark Hole/Cold Wave than lose to those cards. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Woow I get it, it all makes sense... Idiot.

Secondly, I don't spend mad money on cards so I can't get a hold of 3 Duality and I only play on Saturdays or during major events because I go to school for Exercise Science and Nutrition, and for some reason I want a career and a high paying job which is a little more important than a child's card game. Abused right?

As for my monsters not giving me advantage, I summon Dyna. Plant, Quickdraw, infernity are all F***** because they can't get out big monsters or anything (except infirnity has some outs with Patrol and Archfiend). Hm sounds like major advantage to me.

Fail, fail, fail, fail, fail, fail, fail, fail, fail, fail, and fail. Because you just killed you're own argument by telling me what I lose too (Dark Hole, Solemn Warning) and than go on to say I should take out the cards that stop the cards I lose too. (Dark Bribe)

So, after its all said and done, you're logic is flawed madam.
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[quote]Ok lets start from the beginning. A you JUST said I lose to Solemn Warning which is a COUNTER TRAP. Thats why I run 3 Dark Bribe which is a COUNTER TRAP, congrats you just paid 2000 life to draw 1 card. So since this is a COUNTER TRAP format (i.e. Seven Tools, and Solemns) I run Dark Bribe. I don't run Seven Tool because of Dark Hole and Cold Wave. [/quote]

You are giving your opponent a free card in order to stop a card that destroys your deck. In doing so, you are doing the exact opposite of what your deck is meant to do.
You're pretty much "un-doing" all of your plays. Did you use Breaker to destroy a facedown? Doesn't matter because you've just given your opponent a free card.


[quote]Which I can also negate and Seven Tools can't. And you JUST said I lose to Dark Hole so since Dark Hole got negated I'm not dead. I'd rather them draw a card after I stop Dark Hole/Cold Wave than lose to those cards. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Woow I get it, it all makes sense... Idiot.[/quote]

Same as above.


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Secondly, I don't spend mad money on cards so I can't get a hold of 3 Duality and I only play on Saturdays or during major events because I go to school for Exercise Science and Nutrition, and for some reason I want a career and a high paying job which is a little more important than a child's card game. Abused right?
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That is acceptable


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As for my monsters not giving me advantage, I summon Dyna. Plant, Quickdraw, infernity are all F***** because they can't get out big monsters or anything (except infirnity has some outs with Patrol and Archfiend). Hm sounds like major advantage to me.[/quote]

You don't know what advantage is.



You are telling me you are running 3 terrible cards to counter staples that destroy this deck.
The 3 cards go against your win condition. Your deck loses to staples.

> Your deck loses to staples.
> Your deck loses
> mfw

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If a deck that counters the meta loses to staple cards, it's not Anti Meta.
In fact, the current meta is ****ing anti meta to this trash.

If this deck is going to be destroyed by staple cards that are run in every good deck, why bother countering them?
You have 1 MST. MST destroys Warning.

Book kills you too. They Book your monster, they swam for game.

YOU'RE LAWJIC IZ FLOORED
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That and Dark Bribe has never failed me yet. Lets think of other monsters that give me advantage. Hmmmm, Welp Thunder King stops all searches INCLUDING Duality. Doomcaliber is just a good card lets be honest. Dyna I already mentioned, Banisher stops Lightsworn, Infernity, Quickdraw, Plant and Fish (if you consider Fish meta, its a fad really). King Tiger stops Quickdraw, Fish, Plant, Six Sam. Breaker is a +1 or a 0 (if they bottomless it or whatnot). D.D. just applies pressure and thats really it, it also is a great defense card and puts in work. but I heard no complaints about my monsters until you said how my monsters suck so I dont know what you're getting at. I might not get pluses, but the fact that I can summon 1 monster and completely shut down a deck is rather nice.

I hope with this cockiness you have so much of, you obtained your Nats Invite to backup what you're saying. (Like I have, with this deck that you think is bad.)

Also lets be honest, MOST DECKS LOSE TO DARK HOLE AND STAPLES, thats why those cards are staples.

Furthermore I think I did a good job because I stopped playing when Emperor Dragon wasn't banned and sold everything. I just started playing again 2 formats ago, my deck consisted of nonsense Chaos because thats all I knew. I ran D.D. Lady, Freed the Brave, Stike Ninja and more pile of nonsense light and dark monsters. So I think I have come a long way since than. If you don't like it so be it but it isn't bad by any means. I merely got all this stuff by luck to be honest.
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[quote]That and Dark Bribe has never failed me yet. Lets think of other monsters that give me advantage. Hmmmm, Welp Thunder King stops all searches INCLUDING Duality. [/quote]

That's not advantage and Top Tier decks don't need Duality to win.


[quote]Doomcaliber is just a good card lets be honest. [/quote]

It's not that great. It can be used against you so often.

[quote]Dyna I already mentioned, Banisher stops Lightsworn, Infernity, Quickdraw, Plant and Fish (if you consider Fish meta, its a fad really). [/quote]

Book of Moon on Dyna or Banisher. Six Sams will just use Hand. Blackwings will use Icarus.
The only top tier deck in that list is Plant.

[quote]King Tiger stops Quickdraw, Fish, Plant, Six Sam. Breaker is a +1 or a 0 (if they bottomless it or whatnot). [/quote]

Pointless card. 0 Burden of the Mighty.

[quote]D.D. just applies pressure and thats really it, it also is a great defense card and puts in work. but I heard no complaints about my monsters until you said how my monsters suck so I dont know what you're getting at.[/quote]

D.D. Warrior Lady is okay.
When did I say your monsters suck?

[quote] I might not get pluses, but the fact that I can summon 1 monster and completely shut down a deck is rather nice.[/quote]

The whole point of an Anti Meta deck is to gain advantage or to cripple a deck type.
E.g. Gadgets.

You gain no advantage and you barely scratch the Tier 1 decks.


[quote]I hope with this cockiness you have so much of, you obtained your Nats Invite to backup what you're saying.[/quote]

Never attended.


[quote]Also lets be honest, MOST DECKS LOSE TO DARK HOLE AND STAPLES, thats why those cards are staples.[/quote]

All bad decks lose to staples.
Your deck relies on 1 Normal summon. If that summon is stopped, you're ****ed.
Light Beat was decent in OCG, now it's terrible.


[quote]Furthermore I think I did a good job because I stopped playing when Emperor Dragon wasn't banned and sold everything. I just started playing again 2 formats ago, my deck consisted of nonsense Chaos because thats all I knew. I ran D.D. Lady, Freed the Brave, Stike Ninja and more pile of nonsense light and dark monsters. So I think I have come a long way since than. [/quote]

A lot of people playing since LOB have quit then returned to an insane Meta game.
You are one of them. You're probably better than when you first started - everybody should naturally improve over time but you're still not "good".


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If you don't like it so be it but it isn't bad by any means. I merely got all this stuff by luck to be honest.[/quote]

Your deck is bad because it loses to staples.
Nice job getting DCKnight's and TKRai-Oh's.
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Never attended.
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Well I got my Nats invite with this "awful" deck you hate so much. So I must do something right.


[quote name='Nazryl' timestamp='1295701697' post='4950914']
Well it all boils down to how you like to play.
I don't think any of you telling him "You need this, that and the other because all the other decks run it"
Dude, if the deck works for you then keep it how you want!
My two cents
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Lol it does work, I'm not taking any stock in what they say unless its gonna be helpful. I wish I had a 3rd Warning though, I just don't feel like putting in the effort to get it. Thanks for not being a jerk*** about my deck though haha.
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[quote name='InconsistentDecks' timestamp='1295704467' post='4951078']
Oh cool, looks like anyone can go to Nats now :)
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Except you lol. Cause it seems like you're the bad player and not me. Now you're gonna be salty and say that just so you can belittle my accomplishment. I know people like you, belittling others because they can't do something or achieve anything. Goes to show how "good" you really are. Welp since you can't even get an invite you're opinion is officially regardless since you said anyone can go and yet you aren't :lol:

To think I got uptight about you calling me bad, but yet, you have zero justification to do so :P


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[quote name='Starner30' timestamp='1295706038' post='4951149']
You should read the rest of that post and digest the message. At this rate this topic is going to be locked. Can't people give a deck constructive criticism without being rude and blasting the person entirely?
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I read the entire topic. So far, all I have seen is you using logic that doesn't work to defy logic that does. Therefore, you have failed.
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