Legend of Zelda Cards

[TheBigCheese]

[quote name='cheezeman224' timestamp='1307049024' post='5249362']
i love the pic for Uni-Upheaval!!!! its an awesome pic with a good effect to.
good cards 9/10
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Thanks I take pride in how my cards look. It's a personal favourite of mine too I try to get the card to represent a rise against adversity

[TheBigCheese]

[quote name='timebomb10' timestamp='1307049933' post='5249406']
have u thought about making a toon link card
n just wundering has jammie1903 pm ed u
also i think his(or hers) madra was better
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To answer your questions and comments one by one:

1. I have thought about creating a "Toon Link" card yes however I have a number of other cards I wish to create first.
2. Jammie has PM'd me and we have had a brief yet pleasant correspondance
3. I am assuming by "Madra" you mean "Majora" - So by better what exactly do you mean I would just like some clarification:

I put a lot of effort into my Majora finetuning the effect so that I though that is was quintessentially ballanced. I am not implying that Jammie put no thought into his version however if you look at the card in his thread (http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/251522-loz-set/) you will see that it is a ritual monster with no effect whatsoever automatically making mine more creative by default. Not only this but I must say and I think most people would agree when I argue that my image is visually more impressive. So if you prefer Jammie's version it must be something to do with your attraction towards power as it has an ATK strength of 3400.

Just on a side note however, Major is not an actual character in the LOZ series and we as players know very little about the nature of him (or even it, perhaps Majora is a location). So if you are comparing my "Majora" to Jammie's you must know something first. My card is a speculation of what Majora may embody, wheras Jammie's card displays the image of Majora's Wrath which is in fact not Majora so from the start the card is ever so slightly flawed unfortunately.

Again; you can look at my comment on Jammie's thread which states that I liked his cards so when I say that I dont understand why you thought his Majora was better it was with all due respect. Or perhaps I am too attached to my own cards.

So to all YCM members, check Jammie's thread for yourselves (http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/251522-loz-set/) and comment on wether you think he or I have the better Majora (although his inst really Majora but we'll let him off lol)

[FF Fan]

[quote name='TheBigCheese' timestamp='1307009799' post='5248489']
Although I'm flattered I don't think I would play with them online for a couple of reasons:

-I don't think my cards are quite good/realistic enough to play online
-I don't think you could even play with your custom made cards online
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It is possible. I don't see the point of making them if you intend to do nothing with them. Can I use them then?

[TheBigCheese]

[quote name='FF Fan' timestamp='1307071320' post='5250139']
It is possible. I don't see the point of making them if you intend to do nothing with them. Can I use them then?
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Yes of course you can I would be flattered if you used my cards. On that note, are there any Zelda themed cards that you want me to make?

[FF Fan]

Milk

[TheBigCheese]

[quote name='FF Fan' timestamp='1307125460' post='5251353']
Milk
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Milk? By Milk are you referring to lon lon milk?

You need to be more explicit or you could get done for spam!

[FF Fan]

Yep. I meant Lon Lon and Chateau Romani.

[ss2phil]

Awesome Zelda cards! Bravo!

[timebomb10]

by better i mean its a ritual and i think it is all around better

u do have a better pic

[TheBigCheese]

[quote name='timebomb10' timestamp='1307135888' post='5251759']
by better i mean its a ritual and i think it is all around better

u do have a better pic
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Again you will have to clarify what you said and back yourself up with evidence.

From what you have said, you consider it to be better due to the fact that it is a Ritual Monster card. No card is better than another down to classification alone, I think what you mean to say is that as a collector and YGO fan you prefer Ritual Monster cards to Effect Monster cards. I still however fail to see how you think that it is "all round better" than mine as Jammie's card has no effect, which makes mine by default slightly more creative as my effect IMO is ballanced and well thought out and you have already said that my image is better.

I don't understand your logic, I'm not implying that Jammie is a worse card maker becuase I actually like his cards, all I'm saying is that if you take both cards at face value, one with no effect and a blurred image and another with a handy effect and a vivid image, there is simply no contest about which card is better in my eyes.

Perhaps I am wrong but I would imagine that the majority of members would agree with me.

[quote name='ss2phil' timestamp='1307130716' post='5251535']
Awesome Zelda cards! Bravo!
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Thanks very much, is there perhaps any way you could elabroate slightly e.g which was your fav? Why? What could I have done better?

Thanks for the support anyway

[TheBigCheese]

[quote name='FF Fan' timestamp='1307129747' post='5251507']
Yep. I meant Lon Lon and Chateau Romani.
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I'll get on it!

[timebomb10]

what i mean by better is that i like it more because ritual tough it could have an effect now that i think about it

[TheBigCheese]

[quote name='timebomb10' timestamp='1307197952' post='5253671']
what i mean by better is that i like it more because ritual tough it could have an effect now that i think about it
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So in short you just prefer ritual monster cards. Fair enough that is your preference.

[FF Fan]

I think the ocg should read: A monster equipped with this card cannot be destroyed by battle. Whenever you recieve Battle Damage involving a monster equipped with this card, reduce the ATK of the attacking monster equal to the Battle Damage received. If the ATK of the monster equipped with this card reaches 0 destroy the monster.

[Mehmani]

Wording/Grammar = 5/10
Creativity = 17/20
Balance = 15/30
Viability = 11/40

48% = D

The OCG and general grammar is littered and marred by constant errors, though not so much as to render it "terrible" (more "mediocre"). I have to praise the creativity of some of the effects, the fact that it is a set rather than an archetype gave you the opportunity to flex your creative muscles (metaphorically speaking) rather than be shackled by archetypal constraints. You seem to be a little too cautious about balance - one or two of the cards would make mediocre but obscure tech at best, the rest are pretty much useless in the current metagame. You get half marks for balance because I'm feeling kind, but I can't be any more lenient with the viability mark - these cards are useless to play with.

Very good for a beginner and the errors you make are the kind of errors more experienced card-makers tend to make. Unlike many new card-makers, your problem is underpowering and lack of metagame awareness instead of the usual terrible OCG and sky-high power levels. If you could familiarize yourself with the metagame more and try and build cards that are good and usable rather than obsolete and weak, you may blossom into something great in good time.

[TheBigCheese]

[quote name='Mikhail Nekem'evič Tal' timestamp='1307213366' post='5254379']
Wording/Grammar = 5/10
Creativity = 17/20
Balance = 15/30
Viability = 11/40

48% = D

The OCG and general grammar is littered and marred by constant errors, though not so much as to render it "terrible" (more "mediocre"). I have to praise the creativity of some of the effects, the fact that it is a set rather than an archetype gave you the opportunity to flex your creative muscles (metaphorically speaking) rather than be shackled by archetypal constraints. You seem to be a little too cautious about balance - one or two of the cards would make mediocre but obscure tech at best, the rest are pretty much useless in the current metagame. You get half marks for balance because I'm feeling kind, but I can't be any more lenient with the viability mark - these cards are useless to play with.

Very good for a beginner and the errors you make are the kind of errors more experienced card-makers tend to make. Unlike many new card-makers, your problem is underpowering and lack of metagame awareness instead of the usual terrible OCG and sky-high power levels. If you could familiarize yourself with the metagame more and try and build cards that are good and usable rather than obsolete and weak, you may blossom into something great in good time.
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I would like to thank you for such an in-depth and honest overview of my card set.

Words such as these I shall hold in high regard coming from a user such as yourself as you are indeed one of the most knowledgeable members on the forum. I feel that your estimation of my cards was indeed fair and I must thank you again for pointing out where I must hone my skills. You mention that some of my cards are UP'd. The line between underpowering a card and overpowering a card is very fine indeed, especially as it is intensified by the varying opinions of the forum members here. It is a skill that will take me a long time to master however I believe the fact that in the mistake of making a card UP'd in contrast to making a card OP'd shows the effort that I put into crafting my cards. In regards to the metagame, I am truly sorry but my YGO knowledge is so poor that I have no idea what the metagame entails unfortunately so you will need to enlighten me. In terms of my cards' playability, I stopped playing YGO before synchro monsters were unveiled so I suppose that my lack in knowledge will perpetually put me at a detriment as I will always be behind the times and my cards will conform to an older time.

I will however do my best to rectify what you have put forth and what I have echoed here.

Once again thanks for the wise words.

[quote name='FF Fan' timestamp='1307211492' post='5254305']
I think the ocg should read: A monster equipped with this card cannot be destroyed by battle. Whenever you recieve Battle Damage involving a monster equipped with this card, reduce the ATK of the attacking monster equal to the Battle Damage received. If the ATK of the monster equipped with this card reaches 0 destroy the monster.
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You may have misunderstood my card, so I will explain it:

-Equip "Link" with "Lon Lon Milk"
-A monster attacks "Link" and inflicts 300 points of Battle Damage
-Instead of destroying "Link" and sending it to the Graveyard, reduce "Link's" ATK by the same amound of damage dealt, in this case it would be 300
-If "Link's" ATK reaches 0 destroy "Link"

I want this card to embody the life preserving qualities it represents in the game. How many times in the thick of battle have you pulled out your "Lon Lon Milk" and taken a quick swig to preserve your life. The same can be said of my card because any monster equipped with it can attack or be attacked yet still survive.

[Mehmani]

[quote name='TheBigCheese' timestamp='1307315664' post='5258567']
I would like to thank you for such an in-depth and honest overview of my card set.

Words such as these I shall hold in high regard coming from a user such as yourself as you are indeed one of the most knowledgeable members on the forum. I feel that your estimation of my cards was indeed fair and I must thank you again for pointing out where I must hone my skills. You mention that some of my cards are UP'd. The line between underpowering a card and overpowering a card is very fine indeed, especially as it is intensified by the varying opinions of the forum members here. It is a skill that will take me a long time to master however I believe the fact that in the mistake of making a card UP'd in contrast to making a card OP'd shows the effort that I put into crafting my cards. In regards to the metagame, I am truly sorry but my YGO knowledge is so poor that I have no idea what the metagame entails unfortunately so you will need to enlighten me. In terms of my cards' playability, I stopped playing YGO before synchro monsters were unveiled so I suppose that my lack in knowledge will perpetually put me at a detriment as I will always be behind the times and my cards will conform to an older time.

I will however do my best to rectify what you have put forth and what I have echoed here.

Once again thanks for the wise words.

You may have misunderstood my card, so I will explain it:

-Equip "Link" with "Lon Lon Milk"
-A monster attacks "Link" and inflicts 300 points of Battle Damage
-Instead of destroying "Link" and sending it to the Graveyard, reduce "Link's" ATK by the same amound of damage dealt, in this case it would be 300
-If "Link's" ATK reaches 0 destroy "Link"

I want this card to embody the life preserving qualities it represents in the game. How many times in the thick of battle have you pulled out your "Lon Lon Milk" and taken a quick swig to preserve your life. The same can be said of my card because any monster equipped with it can attack or be attacked yet still survive.
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I am really, really impressed by your wonderful turn of phrase and prose. It is very nice to see such an eloquent soul here. We don't see people like you very often so one is not really sure what to say! You are completely correct, the line between "underpowered" and "overpowered" is a very fine one and it takes a lot of getting used to (not to mention much practise!) before you are able to understand how much space you have to work within. I suppose my rating scheme isn't ideal for anywhere other than Realistic Cards (which explains why I prize viability and usability so much in my reviewing scheme), but I once again salute the style of your response. But more to the point, I should focus more on the fact that balance (and therefore card reviewing) depends on where you want to work in this forum.

In Pop Culture Cards, it often isn't about usability unless you are specifically gunning for it. Many card-makers here prefer to design their cards around how they are used in Popular Culture. It sounds a little weird, but an example should probably explain it better: your Lon Lon Milk card, for instance - you designed it in such a way that it works how it does in the [i]Zelda[/i] series (as you have explained in the post I am quoting). In Pop Culture Cards, makers will often aim for their cards to mirror their role in Pop Culture like your Lon Lon Milk card does.

I hope to be able to adjust my reviewing scheme according in the near future. Thank you very much for the excellent, eloquent response. Do post in Written or Realistic at some point, we need people who can argue their point.

[TheBigCheese]

[quote name='Mikhail Nekem'evič Tal' timestamp='1307389662' post='5261284']
I am really, really impressed by your wonderful turn of phrase and prose. It is very nice to see such an eloquent soul here. We don't see people like you very often so one is not really sure what to say! You are completely correct, the line between "underpowered" and "overpowered" is a very fine one and it takes a lot of getting used to (not to mention much practise!) before you are able to understand how much space you have to work within. I suppose my rating scheme isn't ideal for anywhere other than Realistic Cards (which explains why I prize viability and usability so much in my reviewing scheme), but I once again salute the style of your response. But more to the point, I should focus more on the fact that balance (and therefore card reviewing) depends on where you want to work in this forum.

In Pop Culture Cards, it often isn't about usability unless you are specifically gunning for it. Many card-makers here prefer to design their cards around how they are used in Popular Culture. It sounds a little weird, but an example should probably explain it better: your Lon Lon Milk card, for instance - you designed it in such a way that it works how it does in the [i]Zelda[/i] series (as you have explained in the post I am quoting). In Pop Culture Cards, makers will often aim for their cards to mirror their role in Pop Culture like your Lon Lon Milk card does.

I hope to be able to adjust my reviewing scheme according in the near future. Thank you very much for the excellent, eloquent response. Do post in Written or Realistic at some point, we need people who can argue their point.
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I thank you for your kind words.

I do however feel like I have done myself a disservice as although it behoved me to ensure that my cards reflected their pop-culture equals, I was also looking to try and make them viable in the modern game. I am at a disadvvantage however due to the fact that, as I have already said, I am behind the times and my cards therefore conform as such, yet I did not think that YGO would have changed to such an extent as to reject my cards from the modern ones, but the truth is that I am not qualified to comment as I simply do not know. I know nothing of the nature of synchros or archetypes and I can only muse at what “The Meta-game” entails. I know that meta means form so I can only guess that the meta-game are the rules and logistics upon which cards are formed, alas I really don’t know and it is something you may need to fill me in on.

If I am drilling at a point, it is the fact that I always strive to reach my potential in whatever I do, so in the context of what I am doing here, have I reached my peak as a card maker and will I be forever bound to mediocrity by my lack of modernity, or is there a way to draw only on what I know and still conform to modern ways?

Thank you for the help, your words enlighten me.

Regards

TheBigCheese

[TheBigCheese]

[quote name='timebomb10' timestamp='1307197952' post='5253671']
what i mean by better is that i like it more because ritual tough it could have an effect now that i think about it
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So in essence, Ritual Monsters are your favourite types of cards so that's why you prefer his. I suggest that when you look at cards themselves, it is important to look at the card as a whole and not become blinded by your personal feelings and preferences, that way you will have a well rounded view.

Thanks again

[TheBigCheese]

[quote name='Alice Moonstone' timestamp='1308065079' post='5282618']
Although I appreciate the kind words is there perhaps any way you could elaborate, as it would seem (with all due respect) like you simply used my thread as a platform to increase your number of posts. what? where the hell to you get off saying that I LIKE THE FU/CKING CARDS THATS ALL LAKE WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE ON HERE??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? REALLY GET A LIFE THEIR IS MORE TO LIFE THAN THIS DUMB SITE. people on here are making me sick JUST FU/CK OFF AND DIE.
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I'm truly sorry if that offended you.

All I meant by what I said is that fact that I am looking for constructive criticism in order to ameliorate my card making skills. Posts such as your original one is nice and of course makes me feel better about myself, however it was simply a 1-dmentional comment and from where I’m sitting it just looks like you were trying to boost your post tally.

Looking at the second half of your post you seem to insinuate that the users of this site have no lives however there seem to be some problems with this estimation of us:

1. With all due respect you interact with us over the virtual world and therefore have no veritable knowledge about the manner in which we live our lives, what you speak is merely furious speculation
2. Like us you are a YCM user which therefore suggests that you fall under the category of YCM user meaning that what you insinuate about us is also true for you.
3. In regards to me personally, as you know so little about me I shall enlighten you. I lead a rich full life balanced with friends, family work and sport. YCM is simply a website where I spend a small portion of my free time. As I said before, like you I know nothing about the other members here but I would assume that what I said about myself will probably true of others here.

I hope you can see the error in what you said. Again I am sorry if what I said offended you but I am looking to improve my card-making skills so I am not a fan of comments that simple boost your post count.

Finally, the proverb goes that the greatest faults we find in others are the faults we most despise about ourselves. I would remember this.

Regards

TheBigCheese

[Quinton Metcalf]

More Windwaker Cards Please!! But they're all great!

[TheBigCheese]

[quote name='Quinton Metcalf' timestamp='1308078573' post='5283070']
More Windwaker Cards Please!! But they're all great!
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Thanks, I'm glad you like them, are there any particular cards that you want me to make?

[FF Fan]

Shouldn't your Navi card be Fairy/Union?

[TheBigCheese]

[quote name='FF Fan' timestamp='1308497706' post='5295154']
Shouldn't your Navi card be Fairy/Union?
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Yes indeed you are right it was originaly intended to be a "Union" I'll get on it.

Thanks.

[TheBigCheese]

[quote name='TheBigCheese' timestamp='1309255944' post='5316491']
Yes indeed you are right it was originaly intended to be a "Union" I'll get on it.

Thanks.
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Done