Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 The amount of people who new this is astounding its a shame how that number suddenly dropped as the texts were misread, and misconstrued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Master Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 People like you make me have to type things like this. You like to think of all these things that make life seem better because reality is too unforgiving for you. Reality is dark and hateful. You like to think that things happen for a reason and people have unknown power, as in actuality, you don't want to think of life being so simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Sorry no... I know life is a hell hole i used to believe the same thing as you, that we were just normal humans who are meant to live and die and nothing else to it... then i started reading all these religious writings and I read the symbolic meaning hidden within the texts and i was convinced this was not just some ordinary religious book. I finally learned of the Freemasons, and Noetic Science and I learned that the Mind has mass, that there is such thing as a human soul, and that we have been able to have the same power as gods. You can ignore the beutifulness of life all you want, you can constantly tell yourself there's no way out and that life is just meant to make us miserable. In reality your just depressed and want to shove this depression down everyone's throats because you dont like their happiness, you purposely try to tell to tell yourself that life sucks and that everyone who is happy is just lying to themselves, when really your wrong... i have never thought life was unforgiving my life has been great and I will never think otherwise... You think im just looking for some easy way out but in actuality I want the truth and the truth lies in Noetics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu. Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 [quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1296346421' post='4972421'] Sorry no... I know life is a hell hole [b]Correct.[/b] i used to believe the same thing as you, that we were just normal humans [b] Implying what? Define "normal".[/b] who are meant to live and die and nothing else to it... [b]Stripped down to it's basics, that's all life is.[/b] then i started reading all these religious writings and I read the symbolic meaning hidden within the texts and i was convinced this was not just some ordinary religious book. [b]Cool story bro.[/b] I finally learned of the Freemasons [b]lolIlluminati[/b], and Noetic Science and I learned that the Mind has mass, that there is such thing as a human soul, and that we have been able to have the same power as gods. [b]That is a perspective.[/b] You can ignore the beutifulness of life all you want, you can constantly tell yourself there's no way out and that life is just meant to make us miserable. [b]It is. That's a fact accepted by many, if not all, beliefs. Yet, it is also believed to beautiful.[/b] In reality your just depressed and want to shove this depression down everyone's throats because you dont like their happiness, you purposely try to tell to tell yourself that life sucks and that everyone who is happy is just lying to themselves, when really your wrong... [b]Yaaay! Go prejudice! We're blatently all depressed because we're not you![/b] i have never thought life was unforgiving my life has been great and I will never think otherwise... [b]Well, good for you.[/b] You think im just looking for some easy way out but [b]We as humans do that by default[/b] in actuality I want the truth and the truth lies in Noectics... [b]That again is a perspective.[/b] [/quote] Stop being self-righteous or gtfo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I have the right to be as much self-righteous as I want and im not going to GTFO out of my own topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Totally on topic irrelevant post ignoring the spamfest/discussions going on before me: I actually feel kinda bad for the people who have suicided just in fear of this. Even though they must not be to bright, it really makes me upset that mass media can influence peoples' lives so far that they'd kill themselves over something they heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 that is very sad its too bad they never knew their true potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Poorly disguised troll or... [color="#FFFFFF"]MESSENGER OF THE GODS[/color] . This one is ha~rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Well, we may see a transformation of consciousness in 2012... if it happens it won't be because of a supernatural force but because humans have the natural will to advance themselves and change their own culture. And if we could see that sort of racial actualization, and start moving towards a new system of truth, tolerance, and healing, i'd like to see that. It would be nice. A year is what humans make of it, and, if enough people have the will to change we will see great changes in 2012. The date itself, has no power, it is a counting system, simply numbers created as a model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu. Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 [quote name='GenzoTheHarpist' timestamp='1296375766' post='4973443'] Well, we may see a transformation of consciousness in 2012... if it happens it won't be because of a supernatural force but because humans have the natural will to advance themselves and change their own culture. And if we could see that sort of racial actualization, and start moving towards a new system of truth, tolerance, and healing, i'd like to see that. It would be nice. A year is what humans make of it, and, if enough people have the will to change we will see great changes in 2012. The date itself, has no power, it is a counting system, simply numbers created as a model. [/quote] The chances of that happening are despairingly low, though. Some people are just so sunken in depression, or lust, or malicious intent, that it makes the whole process a lot more difficult. However, if it was a possibility, I would support it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGVentus Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 That's it, I've had enough of this... First, this is a public forum for many different purposes, not a 2012 Supporters website, not a religious forum, it's [b]PUBLIC[/b]! People don't want to come here and find religious trolls. Second, if you don't like this thread, [b]DON'T POST IN IT[/b]! ...Sorry about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu. Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 [quote name='Chibi Demon Kid' timestamp='1296392578' post='4973664'] That's it, I've had enough of this... First, this is a public forum for many different purposes, not a 2012 Supporters website, not a religious forum, it's [b]PUBLIC[/b]! People don't want to come here and find religious trolls. Second, if you don't like this thread, [b]DON'T POST IN IT[/b]! ...Sorry about that... [/quote] And posting this does what exactly? The general stupidity shown in the second sentence gives more reason to ignore the third sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 [quote name='Nu.' timestamp='1296385248' post='4973567'] The chances of that happening are despairingly low, though. Some people are just so sunken in depression, or lust, or malicious intent, that it makes the whole process a lot more difficult. However, if it was a possibility, I would support it. [/quote] That is a self-perpetuating attitude. Like I said, a year is what people make of it. It only becomes a possibility when you [i]do[/i] support it. Actually the chances increase dramatically when the movement gets bigger; so its important you try and open the minds of those around you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu. Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 [quote name='GenzoTheHarpist' timestamp='1296428575' post='4975000'] That is a self-perpetuating attitude. Like I said, a year is what people make of it. It only becomes a possibility when you [i]do[/i] support it. Actually the chances increase dramatically when the movement gets bigger; so its important you try and open the minds of those around you. [/quote] True, true. I just feel that it had been attempted and failed countless times over the years, and that the chances of a considerable amount of people denying primal urges for a better future is next to nil. It is just too easy to succumb to our owm sins. However, if I were to see a successful organization fighting for a better future and winning, I may consider climbing out of my spiralling pit of pessimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 [quote name='Nu.' timestamp='1296437418' post='4975362'] True, true. I just feel that it had been attempted and failed countless times over the years, and that the chances of a considerable amount of people denying primal urges for a better future is next to nil. It is just too easy to succumb to our owm sins. However, if I were to see a successful organization fighting for a better future and winning, I may consider climbing out of my spiralling pit of pessimism. [/quote] No, that's a bad attitude. You can't expect to be led into the future, you have to blaze the way yourself. Even trying and failing is better than not trying at all. No organization can win the fight without people to compose it; we all need to try and organize from the lowest levels to better the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu. Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 [quote name='GenzoTheHarpist' timestamp='1296437950' post='4975385'] No, that's a bad attitude. You can't expect to be led into the future, you have to blaze the way yourself. Even trying and failing is better than not trying at all. No organization can win the fight without people to compose it; we all need to try and organize from the lowest levels to better the world. [/quote] I respect your views greatly; I just personally hold nihilistic/existential views. The primary problem is, that the more humanity advances and/or demands, the more our problems will fabricate. But anyway: This appears to be an eternal argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 An eternal argument that I find fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu. Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 [quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1296438878' post='4975435'] An eternal argument that I find fun... [/quote] It's rather intriguing, at the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Sorry i am a debate hound or as you guys call it an "Instigator" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 [quote name='Nu.' timestamp='1296438610' post='4975416'] I respect your views greatly; I just personally hold nihilistic/existential views. The primary problem is, that the more humanity advances and/or demands, the more our problems will fabricate. But anyway: This appears to be an eternal argument. [/quote] Existentialism is actually an optimistic philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu. Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 [quote name='GenzoTheHarpist' timestamp='1296454529' post='4976085'] Existentialism is actually an optimistic philosophy. [/quote] Optimistic only as much as you make it to be. Yes, it has great potential to be optimistic, when you feel you have some kind of purpose. But like I said, I'm constantly caught between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 So basically you are holding back your own self-actualization... you say you don't know your purpose but you reject the purposes you support, because you don't think they can win. This is basically as fatalistic as you can get, and its completely nonconducting to actually creating change in society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 They couldn't predict when their empire will end, there's no way they can predict when the world ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Apocryphal Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 It won't happen. [/thread] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name='Future Paradise' timestamp='1296526566' post='4977981'] It won't happen. [/thread] [/quote] Really? Nothing will happen in 2012? Important changes happen every day. The odds of none happening for an entire year are low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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