Blackwing Support card :D

[chaosnuclear]

[b]Blackwing - Zangef The Order[/b]

[img]http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2537/183021.jpg[/img]

[i]Lore: When this card is Normal Summoned, you can select 3 "Blackwing" monsters with different names from your Deck and have your opponent pick one of them at random. This card's effect becomes the selected monster's effect. Return the remaining cards to your Deck. Once per turn, you can discard any number of cards (max. 3) to decrease this card's Level by 1 for each card discarded by this effect until the End Phase. When this card is destroyed, Special Summon the monster selected by this card's effect in face-up Defense Position. It cannot change it's battle position, except by a card effect.[/i]

Aaha blackwing support card, hope u guys leave comments for OCG fixes and some comment for the card, tell me if its overpowered cause if is, then il try to change the effect thanks

(I edited it already, i hope the effect isnt as OP'ed )

[Skythief]

Add 1 to your hand and discard 1 to the graveyard. Then you can discard another card to increase this cards level. Lol. Why lol? Because:
1) I draw Blizzard and discard Shura. What's that? It's an Armed Wing.
2) I draw Sirocco and discard Vayu. Then I discard Sirocco to increase this card's level. What's that? Yes, it's an Armed Wing too. And maybe I have a Blizzard on the field as well? That's additionally an Armor Master for free.

This all would make Blackwings even more OP than they imo are already, with Blizzard you can swarm 2 monsters while you had none in hand, then you get the chain reaction, as Blackwings mainly swarm on hand of other blackings that are already on the field (Bora, Gale) You can have your field filled before your opponent was allowed to make a single move. Let's hope he has Kuriboh at hand. o.0

[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

If Black Wirlwing gets banned, this is an awesome card.

Until then, you just increased my pure hatred for Blackwings.

Good idea, just way too OP'd. Remember, sending cards to the Graveyard isn't always a cost.

Also, specify what it's level is changed to. If you're allowed to change it to whatever you want, that's OP'd no matter how much you fix the other stuff.

[Skythief]

[quote name='Metagross386' timestamp='1296330010' post='4971726']
If Black Wirlwing gets banned, this is an awesome card.

Until then, you just increased my pure hatred for Blackwings.

Good idea, just way too OP'd. Remember, sending cards to the Graveyard isn't always a cost.

Also, specify what it's level is changed to. If you're allowed to change it to whatever you want, that's OP'd no matter how much you fix the other stuff.
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Even if Black Whirlwind would get banned, I'd still hate this card, as it's basically a second Black Whirlwind, allowing you to swarm bigtime without any help of spell/trap cards to begin with.

[chaosnuclear]

Oh, lol im sorry, to everyone i made kind of pissed of because its overpowered XD im going to try to adjust it now thanks for the critics

[DjaFe]

So basicly this card + any tuner = Any synchro you want
And i suppose the image should be more suited for "Blackwings"?
Fix it then we'll talk

[chaosnuclear]

how do you want me to fix it? lol yes it is kind of a blackwing card

[Althemia]

So basically you can run 6 copies of Shura/Sirocco? Yeah... Err... No thanks.
This is broke with Black Whirlwind around, seeing as how Shura can grab this, then this can choose another Shura and add that to hand when that's destroyed, then Shura can be summoned and choose another one of these; continue like that.

[chaosnuclear]

edited haha, is that a little better? cause i made the synchro thingy hard to do since blackwings run out of cards like fast

lol i redited alot of it XD lol i hope its not oped now

[Althemia]

Edit: Alter the first effect a little bit more and you have a good card.

Also, thanks for being a GOOD member and accepting good criticism.

[DjaFe]

Well I'm not a BW fan so I can't be of much help here. Would change its eff to something like this:

Lore: When this card is Normal Summoned, select a "Blackwing" monsters from your Deck and this card gains the effect of the selected monster. If this card is destroyed, add the monster you selected to your hands. Once per turn you can discard up to 3 cards from your hand. Lower the Level of this card up to the number of cards discarded by its effect until End Phase. If this card is destroyed by battle, you can Special Summon a "Blackwing" monster from your hand to the field in Face-Up Attack or Defense position.

[chaosnuclear]

I reduced the effects alot uhm the gaining effect? so its like the card can only gain the effect of a level 3 or lower monster? haha lol and thanks about the critics it helps me alot XD like i dont know the difference of balanced and Oped haha XD oh can u check a lightsworn support card in realistic forum, cause i made it and im not sure if thats good thanks

thanks for the OCG and effect stuff Djafe and also for KoKone XD give me a sec, lemme try to edit some stuff, and make sure its still an interesting card XD

[DjaFe]

[quote name='chaosnuclear' timestamp='1296336288' post='4972024']
I reduced the effects alot uhm the gaining effect? so its like the card can only gain the effect of a level 3 or lower monster? haha lol and thanks about the critics it helps me alot XD like i dont know the difference of balanced and Oped haha XD oh can u check a lightsworn support card in realistic forum, cause i made it and im not sure if thats good thanks

thanks for the OCG and effect stuff Djafe and also for KoKone XD give me a sec, lemme try to edit some stuff, and make sure its still an interesting card XD
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Not really, the effect would be then something like this
Discard 1,2 or 3 cards from your hand
If you discard 1: Level 4 - 1 = 3
If you discard 2: Level 4 - 2 = 2
If you discard 3: Level 4 - 3 = 1

At least this would balance it out a little bit

[chaosnuclear]

there got the final edits, lol is that pretty good now? i know alot of people doesnt like blackwings, but do you think this is good? if theres OCG errors then just tell me i feel there is too

[DjaFe]

Uhm, the correct OCG should b like this:
When this card is Normal Summoned, select 3 "Blackwing" monsters with different names from your Deck, your opponent selects 1 of them randomly. This card gains the effect of the selected monster. You can discard up to 3 cards from your hand. Reduce the Level of this card by 1 for each card discarded this way until End Phase. When this card is destroyed, Special Summon the monster that your opponent selected in Face-Up Defense position. It cannot change its battle position except by card effects.

[Althemia]

[quote name='DjaFe' timestamp='1296337722' post='4972076']
Uhm, the correct OCG should b like this:
When this card is Normal Summoned, select 3 "Blackwing" monsters with different names from your Deck, your opponent selects 1 of them randomly. This card gains the effect of the selected monster. You can discard up to 3 cards from your hand. Reduce the Level of this card by 1 for each card discarded this way until End Phase. When this card is destroyed, Special Summon the monster that your opponent selected in Face-Up Defense position. It cannot change its battle position except by card effects.
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Wrong. The correct OCG should actually be this:
When this card is Normal Summoned, you can select 3 "Blackwing" monsters with different names from your Deck and have your opponent pick one of them at random. This card's effect becomes the selected monster's effect. Return the remaining cards to your Deck. Once per turn, you can discard any number of cards (max. 3) to decrease this card's Level by 1 for each card discarded by this effect until the End Phase. When this card is destroyed, Special Summon the monster selected by this card's effect in face-up Defense Position. It cannot change it's battle position, except by a card effect.

Also, this version is A LOT more balanced. Good job!

[chaosnuclear]

pheww this took 15 edits XD lol but its worth it i guess lol so this is good now right? lol pretty balanced XD yet it still helpful

[DjaFe]

[quote name='Kokonoe' timestamp='1296337996' post='4972093']
Wrong. The correct OCG should actually be this:
When this card is Normal Summoned, you can select 3 "Blackwing" monsters with different names from your Deck and have your opponent pick one of them at random. This card's effect becomes the selected monster's effect. Return the remaining cards to your Deck. Once per turn, you can discard any number of cards (max. 3) to decrease this card's Level by 1 for each card discarded by this effect until the End Phase. When this card is destroyed, Special Summon the monster selected by this card's effect in face-up Defense Position. It cannot change it's battle position, except by a card effect.

Also, this version is A LOT more balanced. Good job!
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I've used copy+paste and might missed few spots, gj pointing that out
Well, then again was away for a long [b]LONG[/b] time xD

[chaosnuclear]

You were close, ur better than me well this is my first time after all, but anyways, you guys are awesome! XD

[†Marksman†]

Sorry, Can't really give any criticism, cause i looked at it AFTER all the updates. All i can say now is, Good job! Balanced and practically no OCG..So that's a good thing...Overall, what i'm seeing now is a very good card. I rate it 8.5/10. GREAT job!

[Nightmare Moon]

I agree with Marksman here, great card ^-^

[chaosnuclear]

thanks Megaman haha, i just thought that picture fits a blackwing and so i made the card, and thanks to some other great members i was able to edit it XD

[Nightmare Moon]

'Member me, dude? It's me, Lauren ^^

[chaosnuclear]

ahh crap, i kinda read ur megaman thing under the pic :DD lol sorry laurenn dont worry, i remember u well

[chaosnuclear]

bump