Manpole Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Look, enjoy, rate. All comments are appreciated. [img]http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9663/135252j.jpg[/img] [i]Lore: This card gains effects based on the number of Dark monsters you control (other than this card). ● 1+: Your opponent cannot select this card as an attack target. ● 2+: This card gains 400 ATK and DEF for every other Dark monster you control. ● 3+: Other Dark monsters you control cannot be selected as targets from your opponents Spells and Traps. ● 4: All Dark monsters you control gain 600 ATK and DEF[/i] I did make this card quite powerful, although I believe it could be stopped in many different ways. Would these changes make this card a little more balanced? effect 3: Other Dark monsters you control cannot be selected as targets from your opponents Trap cards. effect 4: All Dark monsters you control gain 500 ATK and DEF Original ATK and DEF both lowered by 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skythief Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 The first line excludes itself, problem is the other lines that count all dark monsters don't. If you have 2 other dark monsters this card has 2000 ATK, cuz it gains 400 for every one not excluding itself. If you have 5 dark monsters this card has 3400 ATK cuz the last line doesn't exclude itself either. Compare with Amazoness Paladin: She has 1700 ATK, +100 for every Amazoness including herself. So on her own she's 1800, a totally normal value for a 4-star. On 2 other Amazonesses she's on 2000, just like this card. So where is the problem? On a total of 5 Amazonesses, she's on 2200, while this card is on 3400, cannot be attacked and protects all other dark monsters from spells and traps. Other than that, this card is VERY GOOD. It's creative and playable (I think). Other than the problem stated above, the effects are balanced. The pic is great and design leaves nothing to wish for. 9/10 -1 for balance, is 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manpole Posted February 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 "The first line excludes itself, problem is the other lines that count all dark monsters don't." None of the effects except for the very last one exclude this card in its effect, that's why it says "other dark monsters" which does not include itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skythief Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Ah, the 2nd effect says "other dark monsters". So with 3 you're on 1600 ATK. Yet on 5, you still have 3000 ATK :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manpole Posted February 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 I put a few possible changes down, do you think those would help balance this card overall? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skythief Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 There is nothing wrong with the current 3rd effect. Keep it, it's good. For the 4th effect I would pick the 2nd variant, it's a lot more balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archelaus Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 It's balanced. It's decent. It has its uses but I don't think it'll see much play if released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judedudemude Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 compermise for everone Chaos Kid Lore: This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Sending 2 Dark monsters in your hand to your Deck, your Deck is Shuffled, then you draw 2 cards. This card gains effects based on the number of Dark monsters you control (other than this card). ● 1+: Your opponent cannot select this card as an attack target. ● 2+: This card gains 400 ATK and DEF for every other Dark monster you control. ● 3+: Other Dark monsters you control cannot be selected as targets from your opponents Spells and Traps. ● 4: All Dark monsters you control gain 600 ATK and DEF preety good if it was done like this blanance but unquie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manpole Posted February 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Thanks for the comments, I'll try that change, and maybe make a summoning condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGenuine Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 That guy doesn't look like a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judedudemude Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 v4 it says cjhaos kid in the pic he looks like a kid , preteen or maybe a teenager prohaps ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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