Q is a useless letter, I say.

[Shadowflame]

Everybody, Everybody. Stop argueing. We all must agree that without the leter Q we would not have Q of the Q Continuum.

[Kagamine Len]

[quote name='Shadowflame' timestamp='1297643234' post='5007560']
Everybody, Everybody. Stop argueing. We all must agree that without the leter Q we would not have Q of the Q Continuum.
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I wholeheartedly agree with this.

[.Corgi]

I am suprised this thread is'nt spammed apart by "QUEER HAZ Q ROFLROFLROFL" posts. But I agree that Queer (The same as Gay or Fruit) has a Q in the start. But that does'nt mean I spam it. ...Or does it?

S••• f•••ing f•• thread... Why do I don't go look at f•••ing p••• instead of replying this f•••?

[Dark]

[quote name='Nobuyuki' timestamp='1297639823' post='5007472']
By the logic of 'Q' being useless here, so is K. it can be replaced by C, or CH. In fact, anything with CH can be pretty much replaced when it makes a K sound. TH can also be replaced with F or L, effectively. I know there is a difference in pronunciation there, but it's so minute I couldn't care less. You can trash half the spellings in the English language because they can be easily replaced with other things. The reason we have them there is because they are either left over and it doesn't matter that they are there, or they help us differentiate one word from another.
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tl;dr

[quote name='Glоrious' timestamp='1297640501' post='5007488']
C is a useless letter. Basically, its k and s.
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I'm sure there is at least one example of a word with c in it that doesn't make the k or s sound.

[Kagamine Len]

[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1297644455' post='5007594']
tl;dr
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*sigh* You should be bothered to read long comments, or you shouldn't write them yourself.

But because I'm nice; In short, Q isn't the only useless letter by your logic.

[Dark]

[quote name='Nobuyuki' timestamp='1297645515' post='5007636']
*sigh* You should be bothered to read long comments, or you shouldn't write them yourself.

But because I'm nice; In short, Q isn't the only useless letter by your logic.
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Okay, but I never claimed that Q was the [b]only[/b] useless letter.

I claimed that Q was [i]a[/i] useless letter, and there could be more. Someone pointed out "c", and while I believe there are words that have "c" make a sound that is not "k" or "s", I haven't thought of one yet, and it should be my burden to prove him wrong.

So it should be your burden to prove that Q is not useless, if that is what you believe.

[i]TH can also be replaced with F or L, effectively[/i]

Thumb does not sound like fumb or lumb, to [i]my[/i] knowledge.

[Kagamine Len]

[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1297646040' post='5007653']
[i]TH can also be replaced with F or L, effectively[/i]

Thumb does not sound like fumb or lumb, to [i]my[/i] knowledge.
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TH sounds similar to F or L. I say it exactly the same as because I have a slight speech problem.

But neither does QU sound the same as KW. Queen and Kween actually have a difference in the way you say it, same as Thumb or Fumb. But they are close enough.

Proving and disproving you here. XP

[Dark]

[quote name='Nobuyuki' timestamp='1297646867' post='5007682']
TH sounds similar to F or L. I say it exactly the same as because I have a slight speech problem.

But neither does QU sound the same as KW. Queen and Kween actually have a difference in the way you say it, same as Thumb or Fumb. But they are close enough.

Proving and disproving you here. XP
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[b]Th[/b]umb and [b]f[/b]umb sound NOTHING alike unless you are saying "thumb" like a ghetto Asian person.

At least [b]qu[/b]een and [b]kw[/b]een share sound that is almost exactly the same.

Compare the first part of "qualm" and the first part of "kwan". Almost the same.

[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

[quote name='Nobuyuki' timestamp='1297646867' post='5007682']
TH sounds similar to F or L. I say it exactly the same as because I have a slight speech problem.

But neither does QU sound the same as KW. Queen and Kween actually have a difference in the way you say it, same as Thumb or Fumb. But they are close enough.

Proving and disproving you here. XP
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http://translate.google.com/#en|en|kween

http://translate.google.com/#en|en|queen

Hit the listen button and be amazed.

[Kagamine Len]

I listened. Now, being honest, I care not for Google Translator. It isn't a person, now, is it? From what I hear among people I know and myself, we'd pronounce those with differences, even if they are slight.

And TH and F do have a similar sound. As much as KW and QU sound similar. Either that, or it's gone down to regional differences, which now makes the argument way too complex to resolve.

[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

[quote name='Nobuyuki' timestamp='1297700431' post='5008351']
I listened. Now, being honest, I care not for Google Translator. It isn't a person, now, is it? From what I hear among people I know and myself, we'd pronounce those with differences, even if they are slight.

And TH and F do have a similar sound. As much as KW and QU sound similar. Either that, or it's gone down to regional differences, which now makes the argument way too complex to resolve.
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Dismissing an arguement because it proves you wrong?

And if it is a regional thing, I agree with your thoughts.

[Kagamine Len]

[quote name='Metagross386' timestamp='1297702533' post='5008420']
Dismissing an arguement because it proves you wrong?
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Dismissed it because I've heard people actually pronounce those differently. And explained why. Maybe not directly, but I did.

[Glоrious]

[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1297644455' post='5007594']
I'm sure there is at least one example of a word with c in it that doesn't make the k or s sound.
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Ya you're right. Any word that uses Ch. My bad.

On topic: Q may be useless in the English Language (point of thread), but many Arabic transliterations (and other Semetic abjads), like Quran, Qatar, and Qom, use Q as a compensation for the letter "qoph" ق. The sound is used as a heavy "k" sound. Although it can just as easily be replaced with k or ck (as it is pronounced that way when read by an English reader).

[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

[quote name='Glоrious' timestamp='1297720484' post='5008984']
Ya you're right. Any word that uses Ch. My bad.

On topic: Q may be useless in the English Language (point of thread), but many Arabic transliterations (and other Semetic abjads), like Quran, Qatar, and Qom, use Q as a compensation for the letter "qoph" ق. The sound is used as a heavy "k" sound. Although it can just as easily be replaced with k or ck (as it is pronounced that way when read by an English reader).
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I think we've already been over that this thread was made for the English Language.

[Glоrious]

[quote name='Metagross386' timestamp='1297725009' post='5009164']
I think we've already been over that this thread was made for the English Language.
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Then its a letter to expand the English alphabet.
And I agree with you.

[Dark]

[quote name='Nobuyuki' timestamp='1297700431' post='5008351']
I listened. Now, being honest, I care not for Google Translator. It isn't a person, now, is it? From what I hear among people I know and myself, we'd pronounce those with differences, even if they are slight.

And TH and F do have a similar sound. As much as KW and QU sound similar. Either that, or it's gone down to regional differences, which now makes the argument way too complex to resolve.
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Wow, you have a serious brain defect or something.

In America, where American people (for the most part) speak English, THUMB and FUMB do not sound alike.

And in that same America, QUEER and KWEER sound the same.

So I have no idea from which ass you are pulling your facts from, but they are quite shitty.

...ZING!

[Glоrious]

What about X? Its basically Ecks. e.g. "Eckstra, Eckstra! New secks position founded by Ekzavier Macks."

[Dark]

Okay, I never said X [b]wasn't[/b] useless, but this thread is about "q", so stay on topic.

[Glоrious]

Seems X is more useless. Q is used more.

[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

[quote name='Glоrious' timestamp='1297738754' post='5009702']
Seems X is more useless. Q is used more.
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But both can be replaced.

[Dark]

[quote name='Glоrious' timestamp='1297738754' post='5009702']
Seems X is more useless. Q is used more.
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Neither is [i]more[/i] useless; in fact, they are equally as useless. Q just appears in more words because the kw sound is needed more often than the ecks sound.

[Glоrious]

[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1297739104' post='5009717']
Neither is [i]more[/i] useless; in fact, they are equally as useless. Q just appears in more words because the kw sound is needed more often than the ecks sound.
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Yes, but the ecks is used in more important words. And useless means the use of it is minimal. Less use = more useless.

[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

[quote name='Glоrious' timestamp='1297739465' post='5009730']
Yes, but the ecks is used in more important words. And useless means the use of it is minimal. Less use = more useless.
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No, useless means completely uneeded, that's what the "less" is for.

[Glоrious]

[quote name='Metagross386' timestamp='1297739832' post='5009740']
No, useless means completely uneeded, that's what the "less" is for.
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I meant, modernly used. As in, not completely useless but to a lesser degree of use.

[Kagamine Len]

[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1297733835' post='5009509']
Wow, you have a serious brain defect or something.

In[b] America[/b], where [b]American[/b] people (for the most part) speak English, THUMB and FUMB do not sound alike.

And in that same [b]America[/b], QUEER and KWEER sound the same.

So I have no idea from which ass you are pulling your facts from, but they are quite shitty.

...ZING!
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I'm from Britain, mate. Therefore, this has gone down to regional. Then again, you spell half your words differently to ours, so that proves our english is different all ready.