Spoon Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 [center][img]http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6642/234848w.jpg[/img] [i][b]You can only control 1 face-up "Eira, Queen of the Ice Barrier". This card cannot be destroyed by battle and cannot be targeted by the effect of an opponent's Effect Monster while you control another face-up "Ice Barrier" monster, except "Eira, Queen of the Ice Barrier". When you Normal Summon an "Ice Barrier" monster while this card is in face-up Attack Position, you can reveal cards on top of your Deck equal to the number of Tributes the Summon of that monster required +2. Add up to 1 "Ice Barrier" card revealed to your hand and Special Summon up to 1 "Ice Barrier" monsters revealed, then remove the remaining cards from play.[/b][/i][/center] "Swarming" and "Ice Barrier" was never something that came together very well. Sure, Gantala and Grunard could do a little bit of this and that, and Medium and Magic Triangle provided some additional, yet also conditional Special Summoning, but in the end, they were just too slow to be worthy of their own deck. This should make them a little (just a little) faster, hopefully. It relies on a high density of "Ice Barrier" cards, just like the others, and can fill the hand with it's effect, if you're lucky (or a tactical genius... or have Big Eye). Either way, it's also a Spellcaster, unlike the Generals, and thus can easily be Special Summoned with, for example, Magical Dimension, and by being Level 8 it's a perfect target for Trade-In (you could later Special Summon it via Gantala's effect). And while we're talking about Gantala: More Normal Summons, hurray! And that's all, constructive criticism is appreciated, as always So long, Spoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 The img is excelent. And the name fits. OCG seems solid. The effect also looks very original. However I'm very worried about its ballance. I know that the Ice Barriers aren't known for swarming. However they are well know (at least imo) for Stalling. So getting another Ice Barrier monster on the field shouldn't be a problem. That is quite enoying, however, then we get to the part where you can easily get a 2900 ATK card that can only be destroyed by Nukers and other unselecting effects and you can both draw/add cards AND swarm. Honestly, with all the support options for this. I'd say its horribly OP. Try lowering its ATK and get rid of 1 effect (perhaps the add or the attack immumity). A 7/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted February 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 [quote name='Lexadin' timestamp='1297094109' post='4995156'] The img is excelent. And the name fits. OCG seems solid. The effect also looks very original. However I'm very worried about its ballance. I know that the Ice Barriers aren't known for swarming. However they are well know (at least imo) for Stalling. So getting another Ice Barrier monster on the field shouldn't be a problem. That is quite enoying, however, then we get to the part where you can easily get a 2900 ATK card that can only be destroyed by Nukers and other unselecting effects and you can both draw/add cards AND swarm. Honestly, with all the support options for this. I'd say its horribly OP. Try lowering its ATK and get rid of 1 effect (perhaps the add or the attack immumity). A 7/10[/quote] You could be right about that, so I changed the stats, the conditions and the protection effect to be less effective, while still retaining those effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 [spoiler=Question for Spoon that may contain spoilers for readers of my fanfic] Have you been reading my fanfic Spoon? [/spoiler] As for the card, I like it but think it may still be slightly overpowered to draw and Special Summon at the same time. But then again you're unlikely to be able to get both in one turn. Pushing it maybe but good card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Much better. I'll change my rating to 8.2/10 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted February 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 [quote name='Bahamut ZERO' timestamp='1297095391' post='4995190'] [spoiler=Question for Spoon that may contain spoilers for readers of my fanfic] Have you been reading my fanfic Spoon? [/spoiler][/quote] [spoiler=Answer for Bahamut that may contain something aweful for a children's card game]No, I haven't, usually not into something like that, but if I feel like it, I'll check it out [/spoiler] [quote]As for the card, I like it but think it may still be slightly overpowered to draw and Special Summon at the same time. But then again you're unlikely to be able to get both in one turn. Pushing it maybe but good card.[/quote] Some wise guy once said: "Broken support for a bad archetype is balanced"... or something like that That aside, I still think it's not that horribly overpowered, because it depends on a) A really high density of Ice Barrier monsters, luck and c) on it's own survival, which, granted, is pretty sure, at least for a turn or two, but to make really an impact, you have to provide constant support. [quote name='Lexadin' timestamp='1297096780' post='4995231'] Much better. I'll change my rating to 8.2/10 now.[/quote] Thank you, come again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Smeagle Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 LOL @ SPOILERS This is a killer engine right here, I mean it. It's got a lot of potential. You might consider limiting this card to 1 on the field at a time, although I suspect the card itself would become semi-limited so there's not a lot of call for it. Ice Barriers aren't big in the meta 'round here for some reason, but this is a fun card. 9.5/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted February 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 [quote name='Lord Smeagle' timestamp='1297193369' post='4997559'] LOL @ SPOILERS This is a killer engine right here, I mean it. It's got a lot of potential. You might consider limiting this card to 1 on the field at a time, although I suspect the card itself would become semi-limited so there's not a lot of call for it. Ice Barriers aren't big in the meta 'round here for some reason, but this is a fun card. 9.5/10.[/quote] Yeah, one at a time is doable, will change that *bump* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted February 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 *bump* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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