Nu. Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='RiffMaster Alex' timestamp='1297894344' post='5012750'] You sir, are an idiot. Alcohol and Tobacco are on a whole different level than Marijuana. Both Tobacco and Alcohol are highly addictive, cause cancer, kill hundreds of thousands of people every year and you can overdose on alcohol very easily. Marijuana, however is not addictive in the slightest, has never killed anyone in it's 5000 years of existence and you would have to smoke 15000 joints in 15 minutes to OD on it, which is irrelevant anyway, since you can OD on water. I don't drink or smoke cigarettes, but I smoke marijuana at least three times a week. I don't do it because I have a "habit" or to "escape into a fantasy world" as you said, but purely as a stimulant for creativity and fun. The fact that you and so many other people don't understand that marijuana is more a medicine than anything, is disturbing. You are frankly pathetic. [/quote] I'd agree, aside the fact that it screws your mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted February 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='RiffMaster Alex' timestamp='1297894344' post='5012750'] I don't drink or smoke cigarettes, but I smoke marijuana at least three times a week. I don't do it because I have a "habit" or to "escape into a fantasy world" as you said, but purely as a stimulant for creativity and fun. The fact that you and so many other people don't understand that marijuana is more a medicine than anything, is disturbing. You are frankly pathetic. [/quote] If you smoke it at least 3 times a week, wouldn't that be considered a habit? It's true marijuana has medicinal purposes, but using it for anything besides that is abuse. Which is illegal. So you're breaking the law by smoking weed. Don't call someone pathetic because they're abiding the law >__> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiffMaster Alex Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='Fusion X. Denver' timestamp='1297896422' post='5012812'] If you smoke it at least 3 times a week, wouldn't that be considered a habit? It's true marijuana has medicinal purposes, but using it for anything besides that is abuse. Which is illegal. So you're breaking the law by smoking weed. Don't call someone pathetic because they're abiding the law >__> [/quote] You have a point, I obviously do have a marijuana 'habit', but I have absolutely no difficulty not smoking it for a period of time. I can stop for two months and not feel the urge to do it at all. I am breaking the law by smoking weed, yes, but that's not what we're talking about is it? I wasn't calling him pathetic for abiding the law, I called him pathetic because he was being extremely ignorant and pretentious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='Bahamut ZERO' timestamp='1297887091' post='5012462'] I'm patronizing? Really. Really? This is coming from you. Erm, no they don't, in most cases. I can't be bothered to look up what's legal and what isn't right now, more important stuff to do, but drugs are stupid. Tobacco is a drug, one and the same thing. Alcohol in excessive levels is the same. If you feel you [b]need[/b] to take something to make you feel more alive or happy, to lose all self control and to escape into your own little fantasy world, with no regard for your mind or body, or what you need to do to fund your habit, then you are frankly pathetic. [/quote] I honestly love how you single-handedly dismiss countless artists, musicians and philosophers as "frankly pathetic" in one bold statement. It takes real balls to do that, you know? If you want to force everyone on this planet to abide by your single-minded, likely religiously driven creed then you are no better than some North Korean totalitarian psychopath. People have personal freedom, and the vast majority of drugs aren't nearly as bad as alcohol or tobacco. If you look at the many things that recreational drugs (excluding tobacco and alcohol) have given us, from art to music, they far outweigh the problems they have caused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glоrious Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='RiffMaster Alex' timestamp='1297894344' post='5012750'] You sir, are an idiot. Alcohol and Tobacco are on a whole different level than Marijuana. Both Tobacco and Alcohol are highly addictive, cause cancer, kill hundreds of thousands of people every year and you can overdose on alcohol very easily. Marijuana, however is not addictive in the slightest, has never killed anyone in it's 5000 years of existence and you would have to smoke 15000 joints in 15 minutes to OD on it, which is irrelevant anyway, since you can OD on water. I don't drink or smoke cigarettes, but I smoke marijuana at least three times a week. I don't do it because I have a "habit" or to "escape into a fantasy world" as you said, but purely as a stimulant for creativity and fun. The fact that you and so many other people don't understand that marijuana is more a medicine than anything, is disturbing. You are frankly pathetic. [/quote] Seems like you're just trying to justify your smoking addiction. Those who say they're not addicted are usually always wrong. Try stopping, and you'll realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiffMaster Alex Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='Glоrious' timestamp='1297897246' post='5012856'] Seems like you're just trying to justify your smoking addiction. [/quote] Wow. I knew this would happen, in the face of pure logic someone HAS to bring their own brainwashed opinion into this. Really, if you can't at least argue my points don't even try, you're just making yourself look stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='RiffMaster Alex' timestamp='1297897393' post='5012864'] Wow. I knew this would happen, in the face of pure logic someone HAS to bring their own brainwashed opinion into this. Really, if you can't at least argue my points don't even try, you're just making yourself look stupid. [/quote] lol argueing over the internet. I'm surprised nobody's pulled out the "For all we know you're a wide-eyed mindless person on the internet, with half your braincells killed off". Even if you try to prove you're not, there's always the doubt that you're telling the truth, so in its entirety, this whole topic is just a bunch of people on a fruitless endeavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu. Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='RiffMaster Alex' timestamp='1297897393' post='5012864'] Wow. I knew this would happen, in the face of pure logic someone HAS to bring their own brainwashed opinion into this. Really, if you can't at least argue my points don't even try, you're just making yourself look stupid. [/quote] I believe it is default human logic to assume someone who smokes weed 3 times a week and denies self-righteously that they are not addicted, is addicted. Of course, I do not KNOW this. But it is just the primary assumption.EDIT: [quote name='Metagross386' timestamp='1297897732' post='5012877'] lol argueing over the internet. I'm surprised nobody's pulled out the "For all we know you're a wide-eyed mindless person on the internet, with half your braincells killed off". Even if you try to prove you're not, there's always the doubt that you're telling the truth, so in its entirety, this whole topic is just a bunch of people on a fruitless endeavor. [/quote] You just said what I said, except better. FUUUUUUUUUUU-... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiffMaster Alex Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='Metagross386' timestamp='1297897732' post='5012877'] lol argueing over the internet. I'm surprised nobody's pulled out the "For all we know you're a wide-eyed mindless person on the internet, with half your braincells killed off". Even if you try to prove you're not, there's always the doubt that you're telling the truth, so in its entirety, this whole topic is just a bunch of people on a fruitless endeavor. [/quote] Haha true, I guess I can't really prove that to any of you, but I know that I am not addicted, for I have quit several times with no cravings at all. But I really don't know why this is about me now, my original post was simply to point out the ignorance and ignorance of some people in this thread, so I don't really care what you think at all, because I know that I'm perfectly happy and in control of my own life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glоrious Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='RiffMaster Alex' timestamp='1297897393' post='5012864'] Wow. I knew this would happen, in the face of pure logic someone HAS to bring their own brainwashed opinion into this. Really, if you can't at least argue my points don't even try, you're just making yourself look stupid. [/quote] I never said I disagreed with you. You are right; weed is much less dangerous than other some other legal stuff like alcohol. But the fact stand that it is illegal. But trying to outlaw tobacco and alcohol just gets us more speakeasies and Al Capone problems i.e. it'll basically promote all kinds of illegal activity. You'll have to excuse me, but that was really lame what you did that. This isn't a debate, so chill, bro. You may not like to admit it, but you are addicted (3 smokes a week, bro? Honestly, you must be a real idiot not to put the math together). Truth hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiffMaster Alex Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='Glоrious' timestamp='1297898553' post='5012917'] I never said I disagreed with you. You are right; weed is much less dangerous than other some other legal stuff like alcohol. But the fact stand that it is illegal. But trying to outlaw tobacco and alcohol just gets us more speakeasies and Al Capone problems i.e. it'll basically promote all kinds of illegal activity. You'll have to excuse me, but that was really lame what you did that. This isn't a debate, so chill, bro. You may not like to admit it, but you are addicted (3 smokes a week, bro? Honestly, you must be a real idiot not to put the math together). Truth hurts. [/quote] Haha, yeah. Just because I smoke a certain amount a week doesn't mean I'm addicted. That makes no sense. If I smoked that much a week and couldn't stop doing so, I would be addicted. In fact, I just went on a three week vacation to Mexico and didn't touch it for that whole time, not feeling a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='Glоrious' timestamp='1297898553' post='5012917'] I never said I disagreed with you. You are right; weed is much less dangerous than other some other legal stuff like alcohol. But the fact stand that it is illegal. But trying to outlaw tobacco and alcohol just gets us more speakeasies and Al Capone problems i.e. it'll basically promote all kinds of illegal activity. You'll have to excuse me, but that was really lame what you did that. This isn't a debate, so chill, bro. You may not like to admit it, but you are addicted (3 smokes a week, bro? Honestly, you must be a real idiot not to put the math together). Truth hurts. [/quote] Honestly, my mom smokes cigarettes every single day. I don't think 3 times a week is too much, even if it's bad for you. If it gets any higher than that, then he needs to start thinking a little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 The claim was that one must be mentally ill to even think about taking drugs, or to take drugs, or however the hell it was phrased. Either retract your statement or back it up, since I can find countless examples of people who weren't mentally ill that take marijuana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glоrious Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='RiffMaster Alex' timestamp='1297898823' post='5012927'] Haha, yeah. Just because I smoke a certain amount a week doesn't mean I'm addicted. That makes no sense. If I smoked that much a week and couldn't stop doing so, I would be addicted. In fact, I just went on a three week vacation to Mexico and didn't touch it for that whole time, not feeling a thing. [/quote] I'm not an expert in drugs. But I've seen many people deny their addiction to drugs; it's not uncommon. I'm just relating past events with this one. And 3 weeks isn't exactly a lot to prove you're not addicted. Watching porn is addictive, but not much people admit to it. When you try stopping, you'll notice the difficulty. If you don't have the "Busty Babes" magazine or your computer at hand, you won't have the urge to do it. Similarly, if you're on vacation to Mexico and you don't have the necessary material, you won't have any urge to do it. If you truly aren't, then try stopping for good. We both know it's bad for you. Its also illegal. You shouldn't have a problem. However, my opinion means nothing to you, so don't consider me a threat. [quote name='Metagross386' timestamp='1297898914' post='5012935'] Honestly, my mom smokes cigarettes every single day. I don't think 3 times a week is too much, even if it's bad for you. If it gets any higher than that, then he needs to start thinking a little more. [/quote] Cigarettes are much easier to get; just go down to your good ol' drug store. Pot isn't so easily attained, and considering its illegal, it's not that cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiffMaster Alex Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='Glоrious' timestamp='1297900112' post='5013001'] I'm not an expert in drugs. But I've seen many people deny their addiction to drugs; it's not uncommon. I'm just relating past events with this one. And 3 weeks isn't exactly a lot to prove you're not addicted. Watching porn is addictive, but not much people admit to it. When you try stopping, you'll notice the difficulty. If you don't have the "Busty Babes" magazine or your computer at hand, you won't have the urge to do it. Similarly, if you're on vacation to Mexico and you don't have the necessary material, you won't have any urge to do it. If you truly aren't, then try stopping for good. We both know it's bad for you. Its also illegal. You shouldn't have a problem. However, my opinion means nothing to you, so don't consider me a threat. [/quote] Actually, if a cigarette smoker tried to stop for three weeks, they would be DYING for a smoke. My mother was addicted cigarettes since she was 16, and I've seen first hand how hard it is for addicts to quit. After 2 days, she started to get very on edge and craving cigarettes. Believe me, if I wanted to stop, I would, (classic words of an addict, I know, but this is not the same thing) but it affects my life in a positive way, so I have no motivation to stop. If I start fiending for cash or something to smoke pot, then you would most certainly be correct, but I fail to see your point. Also, I do not consider you a threat, I apologize if some of my comments earlier seemed a little harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glоrious Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='RiffMaster Alex' timestamp='1297902288' post='5013108'] Actually, if a cigarette smoker tried to stop for three weeks, they would be DYING for a smoke. My mother was addicted cigarettes since she was 16, and I've seen first hand how hard it is for addicts to quit. After 2 days, she started to get very on edge and craving cigarettes. Believe me, if I wanted to stop, I would, (classic words of an addict, I know, but this is not the same thing) but it affects my life in a positive way, so I have no motivation to stop. If I start fiending for cash or something to smoke pot, then you would most certainly be correct, but I fail to see your point. Also, I do not consider you a threat, I apologize if some of my comments earlier seemed a little harsh. [/quote] Affecting your life in a good way? I'll take your word for it. Nothing wrong with a little bit of artificial happiness. Hows this for motivation: you get caught, you go to jail. Positive, eh? Lemme finish my ramen noodles and I'll google the average sentence (my guess is 1-2 years). Maybe it's not even jail.Edit: Ya, I was about right. No joke, don't mess with the law. It might seem okay, but you shouldn't be risking your life for something as ridiculous as pot, especially if you claim you can stop. Anyway, here's the article I found: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/524483_10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiffMaster Alex Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='Glоrious' timestamp='1297904207' post='5013145'] Affecting your life in a good way? I'll take your word for it. Nothing wrong with a little bit of artificial happiness. Hows this for motivation: you get caught, you go to jail. Positive, eh? Lemme finish my ramen noodles and I'll google the average sentence (my guess is 1-2 years). Maybe it's not even jail. Edit: Ya, I was about right. No joke, don't mess with the law. It might seem okay, but you shouldn't be risking your life for something as ridiculous as pot, especially if you claim you can stop. Anyway, here's the article I found: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/524483_10 [/quote] Fair enough. I feel I use it responsibly enough not to get caught. I never carry any around with me at school, or even walking around town really. I've never had a stoner friend that's gotten caught because they're always safe about it and keep their business on the down low. I do know people that have gotten caught at school, but they're just careless. I unerstand that it's against the law, but I have a feeling it won't be much longer, at least here in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glоrious Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='RiffMaster Alex' timestamp='1297905540' post='5013210'] Fair enough. I feel I use it responsibly enough not to get caught. I never carry any around with me at school, or even walking around town really. I've never had a stoner friend that's gotten caught because they're always safe about it and keep their business on the down low. I do know people that have gotten caught at school, but they're just careless. I unerstand that it's against the law, but I have a feeling it won't be much longer, at least here in Canada. [/quote] Ya, Canadian Police suck *Stereotypes!* Continue on smoking, my friend. I don't really give a s*** either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiffMaster Alex Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='Glоrious' timestamp='1297905891' post='5013216'] Ya, Canadian Police suck *Stereotypes!* Continue on smoking, my friend. I don't really give a s*** either way. [/quote] Yeah, I will. Haha the penalties for weed here are MUCH less sever than the states anyway, if I were to get caught, they'd probably just take my stuff and take me home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I don't understand why people do drugs, when laughter is healthier and more effective (fact), but I guess laughter can be hard to come by if you have no sense of humor (like 52% of YCM), but theres always adrenilin, IE: Sports, Intense movies, Porn (sex for the married man (but who is actually maried that uses a yugioh fourm anyway?)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='Wang Fire' timestamp='1297916467' post='5013621'] I don't understand why people do drugs, when laughter is healthier and more effective (fact), but I guess laughter can be hard to come by if you have no sense of humor (like 52% of YCM), [/quote] You sir are my hero... I truly dont get it anyway either but im opposed to medicine and pot so no matter what it is I wouldnt like it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='Dark' timestamp='1297899790' post='5012982'] Either retract your statement or back it up, since [i]I can find countless examples of people who weren't mentally ill that take marijuana.[/i] [/quote] Allow me. [img]http://barackobamabiography.org/images/barack-hussein-obama.jpg[/img] Being president usually implies not being mentally-ill, and I'm fairly sure Obama took pot at some point in his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desu the Blue Nerd Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Unrelated to whatever you guys are talking about but I'll stick to the main subject that was presented by Fusion in the first post. A kid in my school was selling drugs at our school and got expelled. He's in my health class...unexpelled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I think you are all totally missing the point. Anyone under the age of maturity shouldn't use drugs for recreational use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 [quote name='Hakurei Reimu' timestamp='1297981125' post='5015041'] I think you are all totally missing the point. Anyone under the age of maturity shouldn't use drugs for recreational use. [/quote] I don't see why age would have anything to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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