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[spoiler=When the world is blooming, she will appear - Synchro Summon - Lord of Roses - Black Rose]

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1 Plant-Type Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner Plant-Type monster
When this card is Summoned, you can remove from play 1 Plant-Type monster in your Graveyard to destroy 1 Spell or Trap Card your opponent controls. When this card attacks, you can remove from play 1 Plant-Type monster in your Graveyard to decrease the ATK of the attacked monster by 500, until the end of the Battle Phase.

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It's a good card. Like the fact its a 5 star rather than 7 with the possibility of its attack becoming essentially 2800. For plant decks, having to remove a card from play is a genuine cost so that makes it balanced.

Don't like the other effect of being able to destroy a spell or trap. People seem to always just throw that effect into their cards as a secondary effect. Its just too good. I know BRD has the nuke effect when its summoned but just being able to destroy 1 spell/trap at no real cost just seems too safe. Nice card tho all the same.
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Mehish. BRD can blast anything your opponent has to a free beatstick attack. And this? It can destroy a spell or trap card. I don't think that's too good at all, it's good but that's it, synchros need to be good. And 500 ATK is just not enough. Look at... Tree Otter, or hell knows what.
On an unrelated note, the english editors would be upset by the pic. They cannot leave any female pic as it is. But that's not you to blame.

It's a mehish card as it misses versatality. 6/10
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[quote name='Skythief' timestamp='1297866492' post='5012085']
Mehish. BRD can blast anything your opponent has to a free beatstick attack. And this? It can destroy a spell or trap card. I don't think that's too good at all, it's good but that's it, synchros need to be good. And 500 ATK is just not enough. Look at... Tree Otter, or hell knows what.
On an unrelated note, the english editors would be upset by the pic. They cannot leave any female pic as it is. But that's not you to blame.

It's a mehish card as it misses versatality. 6/10
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I don't get the first bit, are you just saying it nukes the field, because my brain's wanting to say you're saying BRD stays on the field.

Also, 500 ATK decrease against a 2300 ATK monster can let this monster suicide with unpowered collosal fighter, and even for the strong monsters her effect lasts till the end of the Battle Phase, so your stronger monsters can take advantage of this. Also, there is poor S/T destruction since we lost heavy, and she's a level 5 with 2300 ATK. She can't be the most powerful synchro without being OP'd, so it's good as it is now.
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[quote name='Metagross386' timestamp='1297867064' post='5012091']
I don't get the first bit, are you just saying it nukes the field, because my brain's wanting to say you're saying BRD stays on the field.

Also, 500 ATK decrease against a 2300 ATK monster can let this monster suicide with unpowered collosal fighter, and even for the strong monsters her effect lasts till the end of the Battle Phase, so your stronger monsters can take advantage of this. Also, there is poor S/T destruction since we lost heavy, and she's a level 5 with 2300 ATK. She can't be the most powerful synchro without being OP'd, so it's good as it is now.
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Nope, I'm referring to BRD's other effect. "Blast into a free beatstick attack" is supposed to say: It turns (blasts) a monster into attack position, atk going down to 0, so it's a -1 for your opponent with damage like a direct attack (free beatstick attack). About clear at that?

Now I don't understand you. As far as I understood, you wanna run into colossal fighter with this to reach double suicide? You are just aware colossal fighter can target itself as revival target right?
On S/T destruction I gotta give you right. Maybe it can stay on the field and by that destroy more than 1 card.
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[quote name='Skythief' timestamp='1297867720' post='5012100']
Nope, I'm referring to BRD's other effect. "Blast into a free beatstick attack" is supposed to say: It turns (blasts) a monster into attack position, atk going down to 0, so it's a -1 for your opponent with damage like a direct attack (free beatstick attack). About clear at that?

Now I don't understand you. As far as I understood, you wanna run into colossal fighter with this to reach double suicide? You are just aware colossal fighter can target itself as revival target right?
On S/T destruction I gotta give you right. Maybe it can stay on the field and by that destroy more than 1 card.
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How did I miss that? And i even abused that effect for a while too. But it's also a -1 for you with the cost, so it evens out.

Replace Colossal With Goyo. I had forgotten how epic colossal is, though you could suicide with it, opponent SS it then bottomless, meh. You can also destroy other monsters like Stardust, and like I said you can suicide run, decreasing you're opponent's monster's attack at the same time then using a stronger monster to finish the job. -1 for you, but you also got rid of the beatstick.
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[quote name='Metagross386' timestamp='1297867980' post='5012104']
How did I miss that? And i even abused that effect for a while too. But it's also a -1 for you with the cost, so it evens out.

Replace Colossal With Goyo. I had forgotten how epic colossal is, though you could suicide with it, opponent SS it then bottomless, meh. You can also destroy other monsters like Stardust, and like I said you can suicide run, decreasing you're opponent's monster's attack at the same time then using a stronger monster to finish the job. -1 for you, but you also got rid of the beatstick.
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It's not a -1 for you, you remove from your graveyard, that's not -1 unless you're counting the graveyard towards card advantage.

If you bottomless when it SS you could have bottomlessed it in the first place. And... Goyo is only 1 star higherr, with his 2800 being permanent at no cost and having a simply epic effect in terms of abusability (wait, that's a word, right?). Well it's limited for a reason. And to suicide run you need 2 monsters to get rid of one. So you can only get rid of the other beatstick if you had one yourself.
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