mysteryman429 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 a new spin to cyber dragon fusion feedback please [IMG]http://i51.tinypic.com/14v78yr.jpg[/IMG] "Cyber Dragon" + "Fushi No Tori" This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Fusion Summon. When this card is Fusion Summoned, if your opponent controls more monsters, you can Special Summon 1 "Cyber Dragon" from your hand or Graveyard. Once per turn, you can return 1 monster you control to its owner's hand to increase your Life Points equal to the ATK of that card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodamλ Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Just...OP'D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodamλ Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Your opponent probably has two Face down defensive monsters because of Cyber dragon so when it is Fusion summoned, it just comes back which is Op'd then the last part of the Effect is broken so by what I think it says every turn you can return a monster to Its owners hand and then increase your life points by its ATK? [OP'D!!] so lets say your opponent has Obelisk on the Field so that means you can get it off the Field and then increase your life points by half. That is why it is Overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='BlackFire Dragon' timestamp='1297927800' post='5013870'] Your opponent probably has two Face down defensive monsters because of Cyber dragon so when it is Fusion summoned, it just comes back which is Op'd then the last part of the Effect is broken so by what I think it says every turn you can return a monster [b]YOU CONTROL[/b] to Its owners hand and then increase your life points by its ATK? [OP'D!!] [s]so lets say your opponent has Obelisk on the Field so that means you can get it off the Field and then increase your life points by half. That is why it is Overpowered.[/s] [/quote] And lol @ obelisk. Still OP'd, you get life points for a net 0. And Cyber Dragon has enough fusion already, it doesn't need more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Perfectly balanced and cool card! Though it cannot see play at all imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryman429 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 i still dont understand how its op'd... its a fusion monster with only 2300 ATK (which can be destroyed by monarchs) it can only be fusion summoned.. if your opponent doesnt control more monsters , you cant summon the cyber dragon from this effect... and its only real effect is gainin life points for returnin a monster u control back to the hand.. maybe if it was burn damage instead...then i would agree with you .. there are synchros easier to get on the field then this with more "op"ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior023 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 cool card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Smeagle Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Not OP card is Not OP. Aside from having you run a Spirit (and a mediocre one at that), all you get out of this is a 2300 and maybe a 2100 monster with no protection, and you can't even really abuse his return effect as it's once per turn. I mean, honestly? It's closer to underpowered. The only way I see this being used is for some sort of convoluted Saturn Agent of Judgement combo, and TBH, it would be far more effort than it was worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryman429 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 well u dont have to run fushi no tori in deck at all..there are better cards that can substitute for 1 fusion material or somethin like that if u want.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zancrow the flame god Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 sorry, but i could never see this being played. 90% of people would probably rather use overdragon or any other cyber dragon fusions. 4/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I can see this being used in a Cyber Dragon Spirit deck someone figures out, get this out, then every turn, summon a Spirit, attack with your monsters, then return said spirit back to your hand for LP gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryman429 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 actually to be honest i wasnt really makin this card to be all that playable...just saw the pic and was like hey that kind of looks like a mechanized fushi no tori fusion so i decided to make a nice blend together... i was goin to go out on a limb and do a unlikely fusion with great effect.. which i think i will do@meta , i actually had that in mind too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zancrow the flame god Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='Metagross386' timestamp='1297969420' post='5014661'] I can see this being used in a Cyber Dragon Spirit deck someone figures out, get this out, then every turn, summon a Spirit, attack with your monsters, then return said spirit back to your hand for LP gain. [/quote] perhaps use his effect on inaba and keep attacking directly then heal... now that i think about it that way, he's actually not bad... i raise my rating up to 7.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='destinydramonX' timestamp='1297969665' post='5014666'] perhaps use his effect to get out inaba and keep attacking directly [/quote] I don't get it. How does he get inaba out? All he does is return cards to the hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryman429 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 1 other thing u might have overlooked is the fact this card can recycle flip effect cards back to your hand to use again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zancrow the flame god Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='Metagross386' timestamp='1297969926' post='5014673'] I don't get it. How does he get inaba out? All he does is return cards to the hand. [/quote] lol, i had a brainfart, i meant summon inaba, then atk directly and return him to hand to heal equal to his atk, then rinse and repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryman429 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 returnin cards back to ur hand that activate when summoned (stratos, breaker, monarchs? lol) or flipped effects (rykos, etc) only to use again, while increasin ur lifepoints too .. is a very nice effect imo , like i said its how you use the card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zancrow the flame god Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='mysteryman429' timestamp='1297970527' post='5014690'] returnin cards back to ur hand that activate when summoned (stratos, breaker, monarchs? lol) or flipped effects (rykos, etc) only to use again, while increasin ur lifepoints too .. is a very nice effect imo , like i said its how you use the card [/quote] lol, i've come up with so many broken combos, i could actually see this guy getting limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryman429 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 lol yea how u play the cards.. can have effect on duel in ur favor.. but if it was limited it would only the 2nd fusion on the entire f/l list... and we know they must hate thousand eyes restrict effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
†Marksman† Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='mysteryman429' timestamp='1297928254' post='5013878'] [b]i still dont understand how its op'd...[/b] What if the card you destroyed was high in ATK? you get tons of free LP.That's why, I believe [/quote] Anyhow, to my rating. (of DOOM) In my understanding, this card is a little OP'd (I explained that above) but it totally depends on what Deck it would be used in. In a powerful Deck, OPed as heck! Won't complain too much about that though..Anyhow, the picture is cool looking, if you ask me. Effect seems to be original and useful. I'd use this card, in reality. So, that means this card is good enough fir a 9/10. I rate it a 9.5/10 though. So, keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryman429 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 [b]What if the card you destroyed was high in ATK? you get tons of free LP.That's why, I believe[/b] no where does it say on my card that it destroys a card at all... lol ... it says return 1 monster you control to owner's hand to get the life points.. but i agree it depends on the deck used for how effective it can be ty marksman appreciate the rating/feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
†Marksman† Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='mysteryman429' timestamp='1297980033' post='5015006'] [b]What if the card you destroyed was high in ATK? you get tons of free LP.That's why, I believe[/b] no where does it say on my card that it destroys a card at all... lol ... it says return 1 monster you control to owner's hand to get the life points.. but i agree it depends on the deck used for how effective it can be ty marksman appreciate the rating/feedback [/quote] My bad. I read it wrong, but that makes it even more OP'd if it's only returning to the owner's hand. Anyhow, No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryman429 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 lol watever still dont think its op'd since you can only use it once per turn and given the summon conditions... i can see if u could special summon usin monster revborn or somethin but no just fusion summon... which requires certain cards to bring it out and it increases life points (which doesnt make it any faster to beat ur opponent)...like if it was burn damage instead then i would agree it was op'd, like i mentioned before although it isnt limited to spirit deck support i had them in mind when i was making it and also i kind of wantin to give spirit decks a little love (since they dont hardly ever get any once in a blue moon maybe, and have very few good support cards) .. if u can build a good spirit deck and run 3 x cyber dragons with other cards ... and have this in ur extra deck.. you have a good option for spirit support fusion of some kind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryman429 Posted February 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 BUMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 i see an ocg error. I think it should be,"This card cannot be normal summoned or set. This card cannot be special summoned except by fusion summon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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