Phyrexian Praetor Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 With the movie pack out Malefic monsters are slowly starting to get attention, mostly due to their insane synergy with skill drain. Most people who have paired both Malefics and the Drain have generally included Malefics as a compliment to another tactic, the most common I have seen being DAD and dark support, using forbidden lance to get off DAD's effect with a drain out. I, however, wanted to see if a dedicated Malefic deck as appose to a DAD drain + some Malefics was actually viable so thus I have created a VERY rough draft list that I want some opinions on and help with... [u][b]Malefic Drain[/b][/u] Monsters: 1x Malefic Truth Dragon 3x Malefic Stardust Dragon 3x Malefic Cyber End Dragon 2x Malefic Blue-Eyes White Dragon 3x Beast King Barbaros 1x Gorz, Emissary of Darkness 2x Blue-Eyes White Dragon 2x Malefic Parallel Gear 1x Marshmallon Spells: 3x Malefic World 1x Mausoleum of the Emperor 2x Terraforming 1x Allure of Darkness 3x Trade-In 2x Magical Mallet 1x Monster Reborn 2x MST Traps: 3x Skill Drain 1x Call of the Haunted 1x Mirror Force 1x Solemn Judgment 1x Starlight Road Extra Deck: 2x Malefic Paradox Dragon 3x Stardust Dragon 3x Cyber End Dragon 3x Chimeratech Fortress Dragon This deck is, more or less, a dedicated Malefic build. The deck's main way of winning using the sheer, quick, brute force of Malefic monsters to beat your opponent down. This, of course, is done best via the use of skill drain. Thanks to that card's ability you not only knock out any dangerous monster effects your opponent may have but also negate your malefic monster's drawbacks which means you can have more then one out and more then one able to attack, a situation which can VERY quickly result in your opponent staring down a field of multiple monsters with rather absurdly high attack powers....something most decks are not equipped to handle. Of course, while skill drain is what makes this deck very dangerous, until it draws it out or if it gets destroyed You can still beat down your opponent rather well with a single Malefic monster. Likewise, while this deck is not built around synchros you can still bring out a Malefic Paradox Dragon(who in turn lets you steal an opponent's dead synchro beater.) in a pinch, which is helpful when you have excess Malefics clogging your hand and you just can't seem to draw that skill drain. While we all know how awesome pot of Duality is, frankly, I can't afford even one, let alone a playset, so I had to build around the fact knowing I'll never have any dualities ever, and thus taking advantage of the naturally high levels of Malefic monsters and other monsters who work good with skill drain like the Beast King I decided to run a Triple Trade-In + Allure draw engine. In addition to the draw engine this deck has a fair bit of "tutoring" ranging from double terraforming to find a field spell if one just got blown up or for some reason you don't have one to play and Malefic World which is both a field for your Malefics and also a Malefic search engine that allows you to pull out malefic monsters, though in a bit of a random fashion. The rest of the deck features staples like Gorz, call, reborn, 2 MST's, mirror force ect... and other cards that work well with skill drain or Malefics, like Beast King Barbaros who is proven to be awesome with skill drain but can also act as one of the few monsters you can actually summon without a field spell if you need to in a pinch and while 1900 attack is not what it used to be in when your in a bind it's nothing to sneeze at. Marshmallon is another card to defend yourself if you can't seem to get a field out. Also, while the two blue eyes are initially meant for the summoning of the Malefic BEWD with Mausoleum they can actually be played fairly easily and like all the other 8-star monsters in the deck are trade-in fodder. So, yeah, there are a lot of other cards I would love to see in this deck(More M/T negation like Dark Bribe and other staples like Dark Hole.) but just can't find the room for since I want it to stay at 40 cards and it is FAR from being a finished product so I would like your suggestions. However, when you make suggestions I ask that, if you recommend any cards, please recommend what to cut for them. The biggest thing I always have issues with when making decks is figuring out what to cut so I can keep it at 40 so if you suggest new cards please also suggest what to cut for them. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 tl;dr Machine Emperor? Not a fan of Blue Eyes, myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyrexian Praetor Posted March 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Edit: I forgot that one of them was in english. Too bad he's an earth type, he'd be lovely here otherwise. However, if I where to use him I could just take out one BEUD and one Malefic BEUD so I still have some trade-in targets. That would also allow me to cut a mallet or Trade-In for the Dark Hole I mentioned. If I used the Machine Emperor my deck would look something like this: Monsters: 3x Malefic Stardust Dragon 3x Malefic Cyber End Dragon 3x Beast King Barbaros 2x Machina Fortress 1x Gorz, Emissary of Darkness 2x Malefic Parallel Gear 2x Spirit Reaper 3x Meklord Emperor Granel Spells: 2x Malefic World 2x Mausoleum of the Emperor 3x Terraforming 1x Allure of Darkness 2x Trade-In 1x Monster Reborn 1x Dark Hole 2x MST Traps: 3x Skill Drain 1x Call of the Haunted 1x Mirror Force 1x Starlight Road 1x Solemn Judgment Extra Deck: 2x Malefic Paradox Dragon 3x Stardust Dragon 3x Cyber End Dragon 3x Chimeratech Fortress Dragon Again, this is a VERY rough draft, but it's still kinda what I am looking for. The Machine Emperor version I will admit gives me more staying power if Skill Drain happens to be knocked out. I still want opinions on both these lists so please keep them coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Sabers Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Ok. Deck #1 - Do you know marshmallon's anti death marshmallow magicalness won't work with skill drain? With Drain on the field, Marshmallon can be eaten by a baby dragon. We all know how broken that thing is, for crying out loud, he turns into a Thousand Dragon when Time Wizard's effect goes off... (I hope you know I was being sarcastic) As for comments on the deck, here's a little site that lists tons of Malefic varients. I'd suggest looking through here to get an idea. http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=907676 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='Ryuka' timestamp='1299466666' post='5057061'] Ok. Deck #1 - Do you know marshmallon's anti death marshmallow magicalness won't work with skill drain? With Drain on the field, Marshmallon can be eaten by a baby dragon. We all know how broken that thing is, for crying out loud, he turns into a Thousand Dragon when Time Wizard's effect goes off... (I hope you know I was being sarcastic) As for comments on the deck, here's a little site that lists tons of Malefic varients. I'd suggest looking through here to get an idea. http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=907676 [/quote] Don't post pojo here you f**. Skill Drain will make Granel useless, IIRC. Wisel over him. Do you have YVD or WC11? You can test via those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyrexian Praetor Posted March 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I use KCVDS, actually, but that's slow to update. I personally hate YVD due to the fact I'm a total idot with computers and it requires a doing a lot of tech-stuff. A friend has told me they eliminated a lot of the tech-stuff you had to do with it(multiple, non packaged downloads ect...) but that you still need to to the tech-stuff for good visuals/card images and I don't like playing without some nice card images. As for the game, don't own it, I need a DS for that and my family is VERY anti-videogame.(I literally have to sneak in whatever games I do have and hide them...so yeah.) Also, Wisel is not out in the TCG in America, where I live. Thus, until he comes out here in the states I have no choice BUT to use Granel or just use a Japanese Wisel(Or a proxy) and not go to a tournament/just continue to play casually until Wisel is released, and god only knows when that will happen. As for the pojo decks, most of them run 3x Pot of Duality. I can't even afford 1x Duality let alone 3. So, I can't play those decks at all. They HAVE given me a few ideas, though, so I thank you for the link. However, if there are some groups of non-sanctioned players who play the OCG in the US(Which may exist since english sites like Pojo.com have occasionally had american writers who play the OCG...Yamibakurafan and DM7FGD both come to mind as older examples.) then I would love to know if they exist since it's not so much the tournaments themselves that I want but rather somebody else to play except the one friend I know who still plays and Pot of Duality as well as many other cards that are VERY pricy in America/the TCG are MUCH easier to get in the OCG. Sadly, without duality I am forced to run a rather crazy draw engine but from the pojo lists I've mannaged to cobble togther a deck list that's fairly budget once Wisel comes out in english: Monsters: 2x Malefic Truth Dragon 3x Malefic Cyber End Dragon 3x Malefic Stardust Dragon 3x Malefic Parallel Gear 3x Meklord Emperor Wisel 3x Beast King Barbaros Spells: 3x Malefic World 3x Terraforming 1x Allure of Darkness 2x Trade In 2x Lightening Vortex 1x Dark Hole Traps: 3x Skill Drain 2x Eradicator Epidemic Virus 3x Defense Draw 3x Dark Bribe Extra Deck: 3x Malefic Paradox Dragon 3x Stardust Dragon 3x Cyber End Dragon 3x Chimeratec Fortress Dragon again, I have no idea how good a list this will be but it uses a a Trade-in + Defense Draw Engine and while I know defense draw is not as good an engine as Duality I have to work with what I got and while duality dose dig three cars into your deck and defense draw only digs one, defense draw dose have the added benefit of both drawing you a card and saving your butt in a nasty situation and whil digging three cards deeper is better then digging one both Duality and Defense draw, in the end, both draw you one card so Defnese Draw while a lesser option compared to Duality still allows me to draw cards and has the added benefit of saving me from a bad situation. Also, since this deck did not have room for malefic claw streams the pojo build used to clear away opposing monsters I decided to use 2 lightening vortex instead seeing as a single lightening vortex can many times be a game winner for this deck, and if you have skill drain + 2 Malefic Cyber Ends a single lightening vortex allows you to OTKO unless your opponent has some backrow card like Mirror Force. Oh, and due to the defense draws 2 Truth Dragons AND 3 Wisels this deck has a fair amount of "survivability" if your opponent happens to blow up skill drain and/or your field spell. Yeah, this build is still rough and I am not sure Defense Draw will be all that great as a supplementary draw card to the Trade-In engine, so I would like some opinions on whether or not the Defense Draw is even worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Phyrexian Praetor Posted March 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Thanks....though not quite the deck I'm looking for. I want to be focused more on malefics then just typical skill drain with some malefics thrown in. If the defense draw idea sucks I have a quick list for an Advance Draw + Trade-In engine. Again, I have no idea if this would work as a replacement for the uber expensive pot of duality/greederosity but if anybody wants to do a quick test of either(or both) the defense draw or advance draw version, please be my guest. Advance Draw version: Monsters: 2x Malefic Truth Dragon 3x Malefic Cyber End Dragon 3x Malefic Stardust Dragon 3x Malefic Parallel Gear 3x Meklord Emperor Wisel 3x Beast King Barbaros Spells: 3x Malefic World 3x Terraforming 1x Allure of Darkness 2x Trade In 2x Advance Draw 1x Pot of Avarice 1x Lightening Vortex 1x Dark Hole Traps: 3x Skill Drain 2x Eradicator Epidemic Virus 1x Solemn Judgment 3x Dark Bribe Extra Deck: 3x Malefic Paradox Dragon 3x Stardust Dragon 3x Cyber End Dragon 3x Chimeratec Fortress Dragon It's more less the other deck but using double advance draw instead of defense draw as a supplement to the Trade-In engine. Advance Draw is a decent card here because the monster can be 8 or more stars meaning that pretty much every monster except the gears and machine emperors can be sacked to it and the sacking, while bad, can allow you to "swap out" malefic monsters if you don't have a skill drain on the field. So if you have say malefic stardust on the field but really want to play that malefic cyber end in your hand then advance draw lets you draw two cards and get rid of your in-play malefic monster with the one you want to play that's sitting in your hand. Also, a no-tribute normal summoned Beast King without a skill drain is kinda meh, 1900 attack is good but it's not as fear-bringing as it used to be and thus if for some reason your forced to normal summon him without skill drain and you don't really need him anymore(Like say you got a malefic out but no skill drain) he's still an 8-star monster despite his weakened attack and can be turned into free cards with advanced draw. also, I am not fully sure on it but with the Trade-Ins, Advance Draws, Deck Viruses ect.. sending your monsters to the grave I thought that Pot of Avarice may be somewhat useful here. Not fully sure, either way, both the defense draw and advance draw versions need to be tested and I'm most likely going to ask a friend of mine to do it but if any of you want to do it yourself and post back feel free to.(You don't HAVE to, though...since I can get a friend to do it and EVENTUALLY I will RL test it myself...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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