RBY Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I knows it's probably overpowered or unplayable. Suggestions on how to improve it would be appreciated. [img]http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6128/371404j.jpg[/img] [quote] This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Tributing three WATER Attribute monsters you control while "Umi" is on the field. If "Umi" is removed from the field, remove this card from play. You must Tribute one WATER monster during your Standby Phase to keep this card on the field, otherwise, Destroy this card. While this card is on the field, you may activate one of the following effects during your Main Phase: -Special Summon one Fish Token (Fish/WATER/Atk: 0 Def: 0) to your side of the field. -You may Tribute three Fish-type monsters you control to destroy all face-up Monsters, Spells, Traps, or face-down cards your opponent controls. -You may reduced the Attack and Defense of all FIRE Attribute and Pyro-type monsters to 0 until the End Phase. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mecha Love Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Its a good card I guess. OCG looks alright. But 4000 ATK [u]AND[/u] can Special Summon itself again?! Over-powered mate. It could be resummoned just by activating another Umi or using the effect of Magician of Faith lets say. I would take that part of the effect off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBY Posted March 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 [quote name='Elemental Dragon' timestamp='1299611148' post='5060567'] Its a good card I guess. OCG looks alright. But 4000 ATK [u]AND[/u] can Special Summon itself again?! Over-powered mate. It could be resummoned just by activating another Umi or using the effect of Magician of Faith lets say. I would take that part of the effect off. [/quote] Thanks for the feedback. I removed that part, and I also added that it can reduce pyro monsters to 0 in its third effect (in order to supersede Water Dragon). Also, is the requirement of tributing one WATER monster every Standby Phase too extreme or is the cost justified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecha Love Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsterikcAde Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Not overpowered at all, you need Umi and three WATER monsters as an requirement to play this card so no, not overpowered and its pretty balanced for its power curve so not bad at all, this card can go well in a WATER themed deck with plenty of Umis in your Deck, 10/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Let's see... [b]Great Serpent Varun - God of the Oceans LV 10 WATER Sea Serpent [4000/3800][/b] Oh got I see something really heavy. You can't Trade-In it, so I hope it's good. [b]This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Tributing three WATER Attribute monsters you control while "Umi" is on the field. If "Umi" is removed from the field, remove this card from play. You must Tribute one WATER monster during your Standby Phase to keep this card on the field, otherwise, Destroy this card. [/b] ...Okay, hmm, hmm... wut!?!?!?!?11111oneoneoneone The thing is way too underpowered as of now. Too much downsides. I hope the effect is good enough: [b]While this card is on the field, you may activate one of the following effects during your Main Phase: -Special Summon one Fish Token (Fish/WATER/Atk: 0 Def: 0) to your side of the field. -You may Tribute three Fish-type monsters you control to destroy all face-up Monsters, Spells, Traps, or face-down cards your opponent controls. -You may reduced the Attack and Defense of all FIRE Attribute and Pyro-type monsters to 0 until the End Phase.[/b] Okay, so as for the first, since the only top-tier WATER Dek. is Coelacanth, it could be useful. But the second is useless. The third is only good against Flamvells. Except oh wait, they never leave their monsters on their field, and instantly Synchro instead. Right now, let's see, ...7/10, the pic is badass. Let me edit to my liking, though some people will definately disgree. [b]Great Serpent Varun - God of the Oceans LV 10 WATER Sea Serpent [[s]4[/s]3000/[s]3[/s]2800] This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Tributing three WATER Attribute monsters you control while "Umi" is on the field. [s]If "Umi" is removed from the field, remove this card from play. You must Tribute one WATER monster during your Standby Phase to keep this card on the field, otherwise, Destroy this card.[/s] While this card is face-up on the field, you may activate one of the following effects during your Main Phase: -Special Summon one Fish Token (Fish/WATER/Atk: 0 Def: 0) to your side of the field. -You may Tribute two Fish-type monsters you control to destroy all [s]face-up [/s]Monsters[s], Spells, Traps, or face-down cards [/s]your opponent controls. [s]-You may reduced the Attack and Defense of all FIRE Attribute and Pyro-type monsters to 0 until the End Phase.[/s] -Special Summon 1 Fish-Type Monster from your Graveyard. It cannot activate its effects during this turn.[/b] Since 3000 ATK doesn't make much of a difference. The rest is self-explanatory. Coelacanth is now localtopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBY Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant' timestamp='1299808771' post='5065696'] Let's see... [b]Great Serpent Varun - God of the Oceans LV 10 WATER Sea Serpent [4000/3800][/b] Oh got I see something really heavy. You can't Trade-In it, so I hope it's good. [b]This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Tributing three WATER Attribute monsters you control while "Umi" is on the field. If "Umi" is removed from the field, remove this card from play. You must Tribute one WATER monster during your Standby Phase to keep this card on the field, otherwise, Destroy this card. [/b] ...Okay, hmm, hmm... wut!?!?!?!?11111oneoneoneone The thing is way too underpowered as of now. Too much downsides. I hope the effect is good enough: [b]While this card is on the field, you may activate one of the following effects during your Main Phase: -Special Summon one Fish Token (Fish/WATER/Atk: 0 Def: 0) to your side of the field. -You may Tribute three Fish-type monsters you control to destroy all face-up Monsters, Spells, Traps, or face-down cards your opponent controls. -You may reduced the Attack and Defense of all FIRE Attribute and Pyro-type monsters to 0 until the End Phase.[/b] Okay, so as for the first, since the only top-tier WATER Dek. is Coelacanth, it could be useful. But the second is useless. The third is only good against Flamvells. Except oh wait, they never leave their monsters on their field, and instantly Synchro instead. Right now, let's see, ...7/10, the pic is badass. Let me edit to my liking, though some people will definately disgree. [b]Great Serpent Varun - God of the Oceans LV 10 WATER Sea Serpent [[s]4[/s]3000/[s]3[/s]2800] This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Tributing three WATER Attribute monsters you control while "Umi" is on the field. [s]If "Umi" is removed from the field, remove this card from play. You must Tribute one WATER monster during your Standby Phase to keep this card on the field, otherwise, Destroy this card.[/s] While this card is face-up on the field, you may activate one of the following effects during your Main Phase: -Special Summon one Fish Token (Fish/WATER/Atk: 0 Def: 0) to your side of the field. -You may Tribute two Fish-type monsters you control to destroy all [s]face-up [/s]Monsters[s], Spells, Traps, or face-down cards [/s]your opponent controls. [s]-You may reduced the Attack and Defense of all FIRE Attribute and Pyro-type monsters to 0 until the End Phase.[/s] -Special Summon 1 Fish-Type Monster from your Graveyard. It cannot activate its effects during this turn.[/b] Since 3000 ATK doesn't make much of a difference. The rest is self-explanatory. Coelacanth is now localtopping. [/quote] I appreciate the in depth critique. Also, I originally had the effect say that whenever Umi reentered the field, you could special summon it back into play, but another person told me that that effect made it overpowered. Also, I'm a bit attached to the 4000 attack, I mean it is supposed to be a god after all. Also, I always thought that the requirement of sacrificing a WATER monster every turn to keep this on the field might've been overkill, so thanks, I needed someone to comment on it first. As for the other effects, I wanted it to somewhat supersede Water Dragon and Orca Mega Fortress of Darkness. Here's the lore I had in mind for the full power version of this card. How does it compare with the lore above? Is is more or less fair than the other lore? [quote]This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Tributing three WATER Attribute monsters you control while "Umi" is on the field. If "Umi" is removed from the field, remove this card from play. If this card was removed from play by its own effect, you may Special Summon it whenever "Umi" is activated. As long as this card remains on the field the Attack and Defense of all FIRE Attribute and Pyro-type monsters is reduced to 0. While this card is on the field, you may activate one of the following effects during your Main Phase: -Special Summon one Fish Token (Fish/WATER/Atk: 0 Def: 0) to your side of the field. -You may Tribute three Fish-type monsters you control to destroy all Monsters, or Spell and Trap cards your opponent controls. -You may Tribute one Fish-type monster you control to Special Summon one Level 3 or lower Fish-type monster from your Graveyard (it's effects are negated and it cannot attack this turn).[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 [quote name='RBY' timestamp='1299870237' post='5066867']Also, I originally had the effect say that whenever Umi reentered the field, you could special summon it back into play, but another person told me that that effect made it overpowered.[/quote] Don't listen to him. [quote name='RBY' timestamp='1299870237' post='5066867']Also, I'm a bit attached to the 4000 attack, I mean it is supposed to be a god after all.[/quote] K, goes. [quote name='RBY' timestamp='1299870237' post='5066867']Also, I always thought that the requirement of sacrificing a WATER monster every turn to keep this on the field might've been overkill, so thanks, I needed someone to comment on it first. As for the other effects, I wanted it to somewhat supersede Water Dragon and Orca Mega Fortress of Darkness.[/quote] Oh I see, but hey, Daedalus doesn't...wait, Water Dragon? Really? Water Dragon? That doesn't have a relationship - Well, but I see anyways. [quote name='RBY' timestamp='1299870237' post='5066867'] Here's the lore I had in mind for the full power version of this card. How does it compare with the lore above? Is is more or less fair than the other lore? [/quote] Okay, checking... *Looks* Insta-Formula every turn assuming you've dropped Fishborg Blaster. That's good to hear. Maybe yeah, Coelacanth was too much as you thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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