Washi Lo Tong's Creatures of Havoc (edited a little)

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[Spoiler=the idea behind this set]
the idea behind this set is to fortify your field (and to some extent you hand and or graveyard) with "Washi Lo Tong's" monsters and have a strong deffence but while dishing out some offensive (Plus they like to use each other for surrport and to some extent a "gain up tatic")
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Snake]
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Washi Lo Tong's Snake
effect
If you have 3 or more "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field you can Specail Summon this in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard. when your Opponent activates a card you can pay 2000 Life Points then, discard this card from your Hand or send this face up card from your Field to the Graveyard to negate the card's effect and destory that Card.
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Rabbit]
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Washi Lo Tong's Rabbit
effect
If you have 2 or more "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field you can Specail Summon this in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard once per turn if you have 500 Life Points or less you can remove from play 3 monsters in you extra deck and 2 "Washi Lo Tong's" monsters in your deck you gain life points equal half of the combined Defense points of the removed from played monsters from your Extra Deck.
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Sheep]
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Washi Lo Tong's Sheep
effect
If you have 2 or more "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field you can Special Summon this in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard. when this card is selected as a Attack target shift it into Defense Postion Once Per Turn while in the Graveyard you gain 500 Life Points
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Rooster]
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Washi Lo Tong's Rooster
effect
If you have 2 or more "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field you can Special Summon this in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard. when 1 Face Up "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters on your Side of the Field is Selected as a Attack target you can Special Summon this card form the graveyard in Attack Postion.
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Fox]
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Washi Lo Tong's Fox
effect
you take no Battle Damage involving this card If you have 2 or more "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field all "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters can not be destoryed by battle.
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Rat]
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Washi Lo Tong's Rat
effect
If you have 2 or more "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field you can Specail Summon this in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard. you take no Battle Damage involving this card.
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Ox]
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Washi Lo Tong's Ox
effect
If you have 2 or more "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field you can Special Summon this form your Hand or Graveyard. all "Washi Lo Tong's" monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field Gain 850 Attack Points. During your End Phase you must send 1 Level 4 or lower "Washi Lo Tong's" monster form you Deck to your Graveyard then return 2" Washi Lo Tong's" monsters in your graveyard to your deck or destory this card.
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Pig]
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Washi Lo Tong's Pig
effect
If you have 2 or more "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field you can Specail Summon this in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard when this is destoryed. by battle send the top 4 cards in your Opponent's Deck to the Graveyard.
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Dog]
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Washi Lo Tong's Dog
effect
If you have 2 or more "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field you can Specail Summon this in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard there can only be 1 "Washi Lo Tong's Dog" on your side of the Field. the control of this card can not be shifted. during the end phase you can removed form play 3 "Washi Lo Tong's" monsters in your deck to remove up to 5 "Washi Lo Tong" Counters on "Washi Lo Tong's Palace" on your Side of the Field.
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Monkey]
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Washi Lo Tong's Monkey
effect
If you have 2 or more "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field you can Specail Summon this in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard while Face Up on your side of the Field both Player must have their Hand Revealed. if this is destoyed by a card effect your Opponent draws 1 card return 1 Level 4 or lower "Washi Lo Tong's" monster in the Graveyard to your Deck then shuffle your Deck
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Cat]
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Washi Lo Tong's Cat
effect
If you have 3 or more "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field you can Specail Summon this in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard. when a card effect targets a "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters send this face up card from your Field to the Graveyard to negate that Card Effect
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Horse]
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Washi Lo Tong's Horse
If you have 2 or more "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field you can Special Summon this form your Hand or Graveyard. If a Face Up "Washi Lo Tong's" card is removed form the Field you can send 1 Level 4 or lower "Washi Lo Tong's" monster form you Deck to your Graveyard to Special Summon this in Attack Postion form your Hand or Graveyard.
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Rotting Masked Worm]
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Washi Lo Tong's Rotting Masked Worm
effect
This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by removing 2 "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters in your Graveyard from play. Once per turn, you gain life equal to all "Washi Lo Tong's" monsters on the Field and in the Graveyard x 50. if you activate a effect that would increase your Life Points, you can instead increase this card's ATK and DEF equal to the amount of Life Points you would gain. Once per turn, if this card would be destroyed by a card effect, you can remove from play 1 "Washi Lo Tong's" monster you control to negate the activation of that card and destroy it. If you activate this effect, this card cannot attack during your next turn.
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Bird]
Washi Lo Tong's Bird
effect
I REMOVED THIS CARD BECUASE OF KITO ....... so thank him for that
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Dragon]
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Washi Lo Tong's Dragon
effect
If you have 3 or more "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field you can Specail Summon this in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard when summon remove from play 2 face up "Washi Lo Tong's" monsters on your side of the Field and 1 Level 8 Dragon type Sychro monstr from your Extra Deck, (if you can not destory this card) then from your deck select and equip 2 lv 4 "Washi Lo Tong's" monster to this card, this card gains the effects of the 2 "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters equiped to this card. when this card is removed form the Field removed from play this card and any card equip to this card.
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Palace]
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Washi Lo Tong's Palace
effect
the activation of this card can not be Negated . During your End Phase Place 1 "Washi Lo Tong" Counter (MAX 20) on this card. once per turn you can Special Summon in Attack Postion 1 "Washi Lo Tong's" monster from your hand or Graveyard, then place 2 "Washi Lo Tong" Counter on this card. when you have 20 "Washi Lo Tong" Counter on this card destory this card.
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Drum]
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Washi Lo Tong's Drum
effect
All Face Up "Washi Lo Tong" monsters gain 550 Attack Points. All "Washi Lo Tong" monsters in the Hand and Graveyard's Level is decrease by 1.
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[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Fiendish Trap]
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Washi Lo Tong's Fiendish Trap
effect
you can only acivate this card If you have 2 or more "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field you can Negate the Activation of a card then destory that card.
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[Spoiler=MORE TO COME IN THE NEAR FUTURE]
[Spoiler=Washi Lo Tong's Tiger]

Washi Lo Tong's Tiger
effect

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I REMOVED "Washi Lo Tong's Bird" BECUASE OF KITO ....... so thank him for that

[Kito]

like the ide and "theam" only a few problems.

1, Need mopre cards clearly.

2, is "Washi Lo Tong's Bird"


sending 3 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" form your Hand, Field or, Deck to the Graveyard. is pritty op in my opinion even hand is kinda op.

3, Once Per Turn you can Special Summon 1 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" in Attack Postion. this is not spesific enouf it can currently be form anywhere, Hand,deck and grave.

with its ability and a normal summon the turn you got it out u will have 3 monster so only your opponent will take 1.2k dmg a turn.

When removed from the Field Special Summon it in Deffense Position. u do not sepesify how manny times u can do this does it last forever? can this never die unless removd form play? can it stop me form attcking you direclty forever while u take no damage cuz ti is in def positon while i take 1.2k a turn?

but other then thes few problems i dotn see much elce wrong u might want to chang the field spell to a normal spell for balansig purpises so it has to at keast take up 1 of your spell and trap zones while u summon monster a turn forom it.

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[quote name='Kito' timestamp='1303260394' post='5152903']
like the ide and "theam" only a few problems.

1, is "Washi Lo Tong's Bird"

sending 3 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" form your Hand, Field or, Deck to the Graveyard. is pritty op in my opinion even hand is kinda op.

2, Once Per Turn you can Special Summon 1 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" in Attack Postion. this is not spesific enouf it can currently be form anywhere, Hand,deck and grave.

with its ability and a normal summon the turn you got it out u will have 3 monster so only your opponent will take 1.2k dmg a turn.

When removed from the Field Special Summon it in Deffense Position. u do not sepesify how manny times u can do this does it last forever? can this never die unless removd form play? can it stop me form attcking you direclty forever while u take no damage cuz ti is in def positon while i take 1.2k a turn?

but other then thes few problems i dotn see much elce wrong u might want to chang the field spell to a normal spell for balansig purpises so it has to at keast take up 1 of your spell and trap zones while u summon monster a turn forom it.
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1 bird is susposed to be a boss kind of card

2 you need 3 copy of a specfic monster (if even 1 rfp i can not summon this at all)

3 i fix the ocg on the bird

4 you did not read the effect properly

[B]during your End Phase if you have 3 Face Up "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" on your side of the Field you gain 1200 Life Points.[/B]

that means i need at all 3 of the foxes (on the field and face up) for this effect take place ([B]once again if 1 is rfp this effect would not work[/B])

[Kito]

OOOOOOO i see sorry man but still then wut is This can only be [b]Special Summon by this Card's Effect [/b]or sending 3 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox"

wut card effect?


and altho u need 3 u mad eit so u can get all 3 easy to summn it that way and then in 2 turns u got all your foxes on the field.

I mean if u draw the Bird first turn u got it tha tis op so wut if its 3 it form hand,deck, or field, so as long as 1 has not died u can summon him.

[b]When removed from the Field Special Summon it in Deffense Position[/b]. Is this forever? does it ever run out?

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[quote name='Kito' timestamp='1303261599' post='5152978']
OOOOOOO i see sorry man but still then wut is This can only be [b]Special Summon by this Card's Effect [/b]or sending 3 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox"

wut card effect?


and altho u need 3 u mad eit so u can get all 3 easy to summn it that way and then in 2 turns u got all your foxes on the field.

I mean if u draw the Bird first turn u got it tha tis op so wut if its 3 it form hand,deck, or field, so as long as 1 has not died u can summon him.

[b]When removed from the Field Special Summon it in Deffense Position[/b]. Is this forever? does it ever run out?
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i have a hard time understanding this ................

[Kito]

[quote name='Herman The German' timestamp='1303272491' post='5153480']
i have a hard time understanding this ................
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Sorry well let me see if i can translate

This can not be Normal Summon or Set. [b]This can only be Special Summon by this Card's Effect [/b]or sending 3 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" form your Hand, Field or, Deck to the Graveyard.


wut is this card effect?

during your End Phase Both Players lose 1200 Life Points.[b] Once Per Turn you can Special Summon 1 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard[/b]. during your End Phase[b] if you have 3 Face Up "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" on your side of the Field you gain 1200 Life Points.[/b]



You will get your foxes out anyway in a turn or 3 so not much of a weekness.


[b]When removed from the Field Special Summon it in Deffense Position.[/b]


Is this forever?

e.g i tribet of the doom it. then it comes back. then i attack it with stardust and kill it. it comes back then i attack it with the rest of my mosters killing it each time and it coming back each time. then i lightning vortex and it comes back then i regikai and it comes back?

or does it not do that?

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[quote name='Kito' timestamp='1303272991' post='5153490']
Sorry well let me see if i can translate

This can not be Normal Summon or Set. [b]This can only be Special Summon by this Card's Effect [/b]or sending 3 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" form your Hand, Field or, Deck to the Graveyard.


wut is this card effect?

during your End Phase Both Players lose 1200 Life Points.[b] Once Per Turn you can Special Summon 1 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard[/b]. during your End Phase[b] if you have 3 Face Up "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" on your side of the Field you gain 1200 Life Points.[/b]



You will get your foxes out anyway in a turn or 3 so not much of a weekness.


[b]When removed from the Field Special Summon it in Deffense Position.[/b]


Is this forever?

e.g i tribet of the doom it. then it comes back. then i attack it with stardust and kill it. it comes back then i attack it with the rest of my mosters killing it each time and it coming back each time. then i lightning vortex and it comes back then i regikai and it comes back?

or does it not do that?
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as long it is removed form the field its specail summon back in deffense postion

removed form the field then specail summon it in defense postion (more or less it very hard to get rid of but if i remember right you can use a monster with "piercing damage") that changes every thing

as for the foxes all you would need to do it at least rfp 1 fox then that help alot

i just fix the ocg

[Kito]

if u cant remove form play then it is a mute point. second then your bird will burn your oppnets lifepoints to death as it can never die. and no pearcing damage means u can never kill win. i would say it should be like durring each stanby phase if it is in your gaveyard Special Summon it in Deffense Position. for better balanse.

This can only be Special Summon by this Card's Effect [b]or [/b]sending

You have or so wut is the [b]FIRST[/b] effect that can summon it?

also u can bring you foxes back form the remove form play pile and summon them that way.

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[quote name='Kito' timestamp='1303277612' post='5153617']
if u cant remove form play then it is a mute point. second then your bird will burn your oppnets lifepoints to death as it can never die. and no pearcing damage means u can never kill win. i would say it should be like durring each stanby phase if it is in your gaveyard Special Summon it in Deffense Position. for better balanse.

This can only be Special Summon by this Card's Effect [b]or [/b]sending

You have or so wut is the [b]FIRST[/b] effect that can summon it?

also u can bring you foxes back form the remove form play pile and summon them that way.
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you miss understood again ....

i can not bring my fox back from the rfp using my bird (i would have to add cards that bring back from rfp to my deck which would which takes up uneeded space in my deck so i doubt it would happen and or i would be able draw the 1 did in fact put in the deck)

im saying that peircing damage would be the one thing you could do to stop this ..... and destoring the foxes (after the foxes are removed my bird cause me 12000 damage each turn)

plus the peircing damage = a major problem

[Kito]

i can not bring my fox back from the rfp using my bird i know u cant bring htem back with bird i mean outher cards.

plus the peircing damage = a major problem


but no percing dmg = auto win or auto draw.


This can not be Normal Summon or Set. [b]This can only be Special Summon by this Card's Effect [/b]or sending 3 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" form your Hand, Field or, Deck to the Graveyard. during your End Phase Both Players lose 1200 Life Points. Once Per Turn you can Special Summon 1 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard. during your End Phase if you have 3 Face Up "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" on your side of the Field you gain 1200 Life Points. When removed from the Field Special Summon it in Deffense Position.




and u still have not told me the first part of the abilty and wut it is for

and as u know your deack will burn you. clearly you would add lp gain cards and anti attack card like draning shiedl and koreabo. and alot more im shure.

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[quote name='Kito' timestamp='1303279536' post='5153661']
i can not bring my fox back from the rfp using my bird i know u cant bring htem back with bird i mean outher cards.

plus the peircing damage = a major problem


but no percing dmg = auto win or auto draw.

This can not be Normal Summon or Set. [b]This can only be Special Summon by this Card's Effect [/b]or sending 3 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" form your Hand, Field or, Deck to the Graveyard. during your End Phase Both Players lose 1200 Life Points. Once Per Turn you can Special Summon 1 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard. during your End Phase if you have 3 Face Up "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" on your side of the Field you gain 1200 Life Points. When removed from the Field Special Summon it in Deffense Position.

and u still have not told me the first part of the abilty and wut it is for

and as u know your deack will burn you. clearly you would add lp gain cards and anti attack card like draning shiedl and koreabo. and alot more im shure.
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the first part of the card effect states it can only be special summon 2 different ways

if i add cards to the deck (like i said before) just to bring my fox back from rfp it would ruin the deck (i would have to many cards just for the fox and the bird)

so that would not happen i might add 1 card like that (and that would be it)

next i will not add cards with life points gain and or "stalling"cards (stiill playing one strategy) the bird and the fox is susposed to be one of many different strategy and flow that can come out of this set

plus it would never come out in a auto draw (either your opponent or you could play card that could turn this around)

the idea behind this set is to fortify your field (and to some extent you hand and or graveyard) with "Washi Lo Tong's" monsters and have a strong deffence but while dishing out some offensive (Plus they like to use each other for surrport and to some extent a "gain up tatic")

the idea/theme of this IS NOT ALL AROUND THE BIRD AND THE FOX but its one strategy you can use

[Kito]

the first part of the card effect states it can only be special summon 2 different ways


k if it can be summond 2 way wut is the second?(first in this case being foxes) (lol nm just figuerd it out) lol dum me

next i will not add cards with life points gain and or "stalling"cards (stiill playing one strategy) the bird and the fox is susposed to be one of many different strategy and flow that can come out of this set
u might not but it is Realistic cards" so when making the card u have to imagin any 1 can take it a throw it in any deck they might make and ballance it based of that line of thinking

plus it would never come out in a auto draw (either your opponent or you could play card that could turn this around)

witch would mostlikly be u as your opponent has no idea wut this is or has never seen it. wut card that is commin in current decks can stop this? i mean this with the rigth cards can conter everything and keep coming back never to die. unless removed.

Washi Lo Tong's Cat
is also a little broken
If you have 3 or more "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters Face Up on your Side of the Field you can Specail Summon this in Attack Postion from your[b] Hand or Graveya[/b]rd. when a card effect targets a "Washi Lo Tong's" Monsters send this face up card from your Field to the Graveyard to negate that Card Effect
it kinda needs a 1once puer turn in it or it can stop all spell and traps in a turn.



SSing form gave needs some kinda cost or u can keep your field full at all times.

e.g

start with Washi Lo Tong's Bird ss it to the field then ns Washi Lo Tong's Rat ss Washi Lo Tong's Hors and ss Washi Lo Tong's Cat now no matter how manny monster they kill u will always have Tong's Hors, Washi Lo Tong's Cat, on your field when u get any monster.

granted e.g is a little farfetch but only so manny cards to work with.

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[quote name='Kito' timestamp='1303281617' post='5153726']

next i will not add cards with life points gain and or "stalling"cards (stiill playing one strategy) the bird and the fox is susposed to be one of many different strategy and flow that can come out of this set

u might not but it is Realistic cards" so when making the card u have to imagin any 1 can take it a throw it in any deck they might make and ballance it based of that line of thinking

plus it would never come out in a auto draw (either your opponent or you could play card that could turn this around)

witch would mostlikly be u as your opponent has no idea wut this is or has never seen it. wut card that is commin in current decks can stop this? i mean this with the rigth cards can conter everything and keep coming back never to die. unless removed.

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i was thinking about making a full Washi Lo Tong Deck (meaning more monsters and alot of spells and traps) that what i mean from the last post

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witch would mostlikly be u as your opponent has no idea wut this is or has never seen it. wut card that is commin in current decks can stop this? i mean this with the rigth cards can conter everything and keep coming back never to die. unless removed.

(i feel that you are still stuck on the bird ............)
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there a few major weak points to this (even though not finnish) if the opponent can not figure it out and or able to counter well of course the opponent is going to lose

[Kito]

i will look forword to this full set when u finish it. im sorry if i seam stuck on the bird but it just striks me as op that no matter how manny yimes u kill it it bounses rigth back to the field at no cost in Dfence position meaing u cant even do normal battle dmg now just pearcing. i think it need a limit or cost to the ability that all. i dont care if ti comse back forever but only like once a turn or somthing so they dont have to kill it and wate, then next turn kill it and pearc attak and wate. also u get unlimated Tributes for it this way. for your foxes should u bounce them to your hand.


Washi Lo Tong's Horse
just seams to also have a opish ability u can use it to chuck itelf to the grave and the seond u got 2 monster on the field u got 5 with you 3 horses in grave. as again there is no cot on bringing them back. and agian a full field to tribute and summin with.

i cant give a full idea if they are op or not as there are so few. but they just seam like they can Abuse as much as they want with no porblem to to aside form pearcing dmg.

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well like i said before washi lo tong bird is susposed to be the one of the boss card (its hard to ss and the other part of it effect makes requries 3 of specfic card face up on my field)

i could instead of def put it in attack ???

you still do not see the major weak spots to this ???

allmost any deck (as soon as you figure it out) can at least counter this

[Kito]

all i was says is like once per turn if it is in the grave u can ss it to the field or even at every end phase ss it to the field but to hav eit come back forever as manny times a turn as it is distroyd with no drawback to u exsept pearcing dmg. just seams it could be abusable. also u can use "Washi Lo Tong's Horse" and throw Washi Lo Tong's Bird
into the grave then Monster reencarnation it to hand for free ss.

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[quote name='Kito' timestamp='1303287759' post='5153810']
all i was says is like once per turn if it is in the grave u can ss it to the field or even at every end phase ss it to the field but to hav eit come back forever as manny times a turn as it is distroyd with no drawback to u exsept pearcing dmg. just seams it could be abusable. also u can use "Washi Lo Tong's Horse" and throw Washi Lo Tong's Bird
into the grave then Monster reencarnation it to hand for free ss.
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first impossible

second i change it a little

second washi lo tong's horse effect only works on lv 4 or lower "Washi Lo Tong's" Monster

third monster recarnation would not work on washi lo tong bird because of washi lo tong effect

[Kito]

third monster recarnation would not work on washi lo tong bird because of washi lo tong effect

wut effect?

and new e.g then.

i have a ligthsworn deck with only 1 monk in it. it is dead with no way to come back and i getotu judgement dragon. i now cannot win as if i pay 1k lp to blow field this monst comse back befor i can even attack u. and if i fill my field i cannot do any dmg at all exsept with only monk.

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[quote name='Kito' timestamp='1303307820' post='5154116']
third monster recarnation would not work on washi lo tong bird because of washi lo tong effect

wut effect?

and new e.g then.

i have a ligthsworn deck with only 1 monk in it. it is dead with no way to come back and i getotu judgement dragon. i now cannot win as if i pay 1k lp to blow field this monst comse back befor i can even attack u. and if i fill my field i cannot do any dmg at all exsept with only monk.
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this is consdier spam ....

YOU ARE STILL THINK ABOUT THE WASHI LO TONG BIRD !!!

PLUS I CHANGE THE OCG on WASHI LO TONG BIRD

i was thinking of a different spell card ... (but even if i did what the point ??? i would need my 3 foxes back on the field hand or deck to ss washi lo tong bird)

so yet anthor useless card you mention

[Kito]

Bird going in attack positon is still op sould be more like
Washi Lo Tong's Bird
effect
This can not be Normal Summon or Set. This can only be Special Summon by this Card's Effect or sending 3 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" form your Hand, Field or, Deck to the Graveyard. during your End Phase Both Players lose 1200 Life Points. Once Per Turn you can Special Summon 1 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard. during your End Phase if you have 3 Face Up "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" on your side of the Field you gain 1200 Life Points. When removed from the Field Special Summon it in Attack Position.


Washi Lo Tong's Bird
effect
This can not be Normal Summon or Set. This can only be Special Summon by this Card's Effect or sending 3 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" form your Hand, Field or, Deck to the Graveyard. during your End Phase Both Players lose 1200 Life Points. Once Per Turn you can Special Summon 1 "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" in Attack Postion from your Hand or Graveyard. during your End Phase if you have 3 Face Up "Washi Lo Tong's Fox" on your side of the Field you gain 1200 Life Points.[s] When removed from the Field Special Summon it in Attack Position[/s].Durring the endphase of the turn When this card was removed from the Field Special Summon it to the field. (give me 1 exsample of a current monster that can ss to the field forever at no cost and i will take back all i said.)

this is wut i think it could be.

Washi Lo Tong's Drum (this should probibly be the field spell)
Washi Lo Tong's Palace(this should probibly be a continous spell.)

Washi Lo Tong's Rotting Masked Worm(nice card good ability Kinda week to battle tho)

Washi Lo Tong's Horse(needs like can only have 1 Washi Lo Tong's Horse on the field at a time kinda thing i think or u can thow it into the grave to ss it to field as long as u got 1 outher Washi on the field)

Washi Lo Tong's Cat(need like a once a turn in its abilty or it can stop all effects as lon gas u got 3-4 washi on the field.)

Washi Lo Tong's Ox(maby a can only have 1 on the field ability but it has enof weeknes as it is)

Washi Lo Tong's Rat(only 1 on field to stop super swarm)

Washi Lo Tong's Rooster(same thing only 1 to slow super swarm)

Washi Lo Tong's Sheep(is a much stonger marre the fallen 1 and can get u 1.5k ATK a turn for you masked guy or save you lp form you bird good combo but kinda op at +500 for a lvl 4 monster mabe make him lvl 5 and i think this is a gote not a sheep)

Washi Lo Tong's Snake(activats a card does that include summaning?)

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http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Colossal_Fighter

Colossal Fighter can more or less ss itself forever

Washi Lo Tong's Drum the reason why this is a contonuis is because i can use multiple of these at one time

Washi Lo Tong's Palace like i said before there a reason why i put this as a field (if i had multple of these on the field i would have a very op set)

Washi Lo Tong's Rotting Masked Worm this is susposed to be a near the end of the duel kind of card plus due to its effect i had to give him a weak atk (plus a weak atk hekps puts him fit in the set after all)

Washi Lo Tong's Horse like all washi lo tong animals their atk is quite weak and all the ss from sychros and what not this set would be consider balanced (as long i do not put any sychros or tuners on here then it would sort of make it op'ed)

Washi Lo Tong's Cat if you read the text CAREFULLY like the snake you would see they way it wrote on the cards it only works on one card effect

Washi Lo Tong's Ox this is susposed to be the recylcer kinda of card help put back in your deck certai monster you might need

Washi Lo Tong's Rat a basic ss its quite weak .... so really no problem

Washi Lo Tong's Rooster the rooster is quite limmited its atk is fairly weak and it ss in atk pos in fact this can back fire quite easly if played wrong

Washi Lo Tong's Sheep(is a much stonger marre the fallen 1 and can get u 1.5k ATK a turn for you masked guy or save you lp form you bird good combo but kinda op at +500 for a lvl 4 monster mabe make him lvl 5 and i think this is a gote not a sheep)

Washi Lo Tong's Snake no just a activation of a card effect

[Kito]

colosel is not for free tho with no cost if he is distry by effect he is dead not just distroyed. [b]When this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard,[/b] BIG difference as this is the down side if i judgement it it is dead.


Washi Lo Tong's Palace (dont run multiple in the deck?) also having the abilty t ss monster who can ss them selves anyway if there ar emoe than 2 means having more than 1 is a bad thing as once u got 2 on filed u got 5 so no need for second or 3rd 1)

as long i do not put any sychros or tuners on here then it would sort of make it op'ed (why wouldent outher people put them in?)

only reason y i say only run as it gives u free tributes for tribute summons u normal summon 1 card ss any 1 elce and u got a full field so u go from 1-5 monster in a turn and stay at 5 forevee unless they have a field distroy card.

and now have the ability to pump up all you monsters by 1650 Atk with you continuous spell card. (if 3 in deck but y not have 3)

all i got time for right now

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[quote name='Kito' timestamp='1303437575' post='5157998']
colosel is not for free tho with no cost if he is distry by effect he is dead not just distroyed. [b]When this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard,[/b] BIG difference as this is the down side if i judgement it it is dead.


Washi Lo Tong's Palace (dont run multiple in the deck?) also having the abilty t ss monster who can ss them selves anyway if there ar emoe than 2 means having more than 1 is a bad thing as once u got 2 on filed u got 5 so no need for second or 3rd 1)

as long i do not put any sychros or tuners on here then it would sort of make it op'ed (why wouldent outher people put them in?)

only reason y i say only run as it gives u free tributes for tribute summons u normal summon 1 card ss any 1 elce and u got a full field so u go from 1-5 monster in a turn and stay at 5 forevee unless they have a field distroy card.

and now have the ability to pump up all you monsters by 1650 Atk with you continuous spell card. (if 3 in deck but y not have 3)

all i got time for right now
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what i mean was if washi lo tong palace was a contonus spell i could have multplr copy going at the same time (which would make this very op)

sychro are ss (sychro summon is ss) and there deck built just for very quick sychro summonings (this runs the same theme but i do not invlove a extra deck)

if sychro and turners were added you could ss which would be very overwhelming (which make this very op) this is like a sychro theme deck - the turners and sychros

lasty this is susposed to be more or less more level 4 and lower with a few higher level guys (to help make this balanced)

what im trying to say

even though i can ss alot with this concept its no different than a sychro theme deck

i try to make it balanced by have less higher lv (a way to prevent more or less free lv 8 monsters and etc.)

and the core effect (meaning i need at least 2 on my field for the ss)

so i still say this is balanced

if you dissagree about this set being balanced please provide a good statement


NEW CARDS ADDED

ALL I NEED TO DO IS FINNISH TIGER AND DRAGON AND THEN SOME MORE SPELLS AND TRAP CARDS THEN THIS IS A FINNNISH SET !!!

YAY !!!

[Kito]

i built a proxi fo the deck it deck list is as such.

Washi Lo Tong's Bird x2 (built deck around this card.)( could have gone 3 but thot 2 would do fine for deminstration)
Washi Lo Tong's Rotting Masked Worm x1(for lp or beatstick)
Washi Lo Tong's Horse x3 (fill grave with my monsters for ss)
Washi Lo Tong's Rat x1 (no battle dmg on my bird)
Washi Lo Tong's Fox x3 (for bird)
Washi Lo Tong's Rooster x2(to fill field)
Washi Lo Tong's Sheepx3 (for lp)
Honest x3 (to not die)
m=18
Foolish berial x3(thro bird or fox into grave at need.)
Pot of averice x2 (thor fox back into deck and draw power)
Beckoning Light x3 (bring fox and bird back to hand to summon more birds )
Hand Destruction x1 (more washi in grave not matter any way as ill ss them from grave and draw power)
Double Summon x2 (to get more on field if needed)
Card of Safe Return x2 (insanse draw power)
Mystik Wok x1 (to kill bird for free 2.5k lp to save me from its burn dmg)

spell 14

Mirror Force (anti attack on bird)
Barrel Behind the Door x3 (to negat my burn and burn my alli for 2.4k insted of 1.2)
Torrential Tribute (free field kill when my bird hit to anit attack i tmore than once)
Magic cyilinder (anti attack and mor eburn)
Spirit Barrierx2 (to anti pearcing attacks)

trap x8

side x15

Inferno Reckless Summon x2 (to fill field at need for anti swarm decks)
Washi Lo Tong's Palacex2 (for more grave control not really need tho)
Washi Lo Tong's Drum x3 (for more dmg if i want to beat stick)
Washi Lo Tong's Fiendish Trap x2 (to anti effect kills for monak decks)
Heavy storm x1 (for heave spell decks)
Mistical space typhoon x1(for anti spell and trap)
dust tornado x1 (sam as mst)
Royal Decree. x1 (anti trap for spirit dran decks to keep my bird burning)
Giant Trunade x1 (same as decree)
The Dark Door x1 (to stop other swarm from swarming my birds)

Deck 40 cards

THis build i wone about 75% of the time pritty much unaposed and 20% of the time with some dificulty. still woune about 95% of all my duels tho all thx to the bird.

i would have bid out in less then 3 turns on average 2 out in 5. dooing about 2.4 k dmg and 4.8k dmg with berrial behind door) if i was ever low on lp i would wok my bird to pump my lp back up 2.5k

i got my duel recrds if u want to see.

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i really do not want make the entire set based around washi lo tong bird