Yeezus Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 3 Fishborg Blaster 3 Des Frog 3 Swap Frog 3 Treeborn Frog 3 Level Eater 1 Ronintoadin 3 Upstart Goblin 3 Moray of Greed 3 D.D.R - Different Dimension Reincarnation 3 Gold Sarcophagus 3 Hand Destruction 3 Symbol of Heritage 2 Salvage 1 Giant Trunade 1 Monster Reborn 1 Foolish Burial 1 One for One 3 Formula Synchron 1 XX-Saber Hyunlei (Play face-up on top of extra to bluff saber match-up so they play conservatively) 3 Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Barrier 1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier 2 Power Tool Dragon 1 Black Rose Dragon 1 Stardust Dragon 3 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier Will be back later w/ Side deck and what to side for what match-up etc [spoiler=How the deck works, courtesy of Fraz/whoever he c&p'd it off] HK = random handcard 0. Field: - Hand: 1 Swap, 1 Fishborg, 1 Des Frog, 1 Level Eater, 2 HK Grave: - Removed: - Discard Fishborg => Special Swap => Ronin to Grave Effect Fishborg => Discard Level Eater 1. Field: 1 Swap, 1 Fishborg Hand: 2 HK, 1 Des Frog Grave: 1 Ronin, 1 Level Eater Removed: - Tribute Swap => Des Frog Synchro Fishborg + Des Frog => Dewloren 2. Field: 1 Dewloren Hand: 2 HK Grave: 1 Ronin, 1 Level Eater, 1 Swap Frog, 1 Des Frog, Fishborg Removed: - Effect Ronin => Remove Swap Level Eater Dewloren 3. Field: 1 Ronin, 1 Dewloren (Lv 5), 1 Level Eater Hand: 2 HK Grave: 1 Des Frog, 1 Fishborg Removed: 1 Swap Dewloren Effect => Level Eater Discard Level Eater => Effect Fishborg 4. Field: 1 Ronin, 1 Dewloren (Lv 5), 1 Fishborg Hand: 2 HK Grave: 1 Des Frog, 1 Level Eater Removed: 1 Swap Synchro Fishborg + Dewloren => Dewloren Level Eater Dewloren 5. Field: 1 Ronin, 1 Dewloren (Lv 5), 1 Level Eater Hand: 2 HK Grave: 1 Des Frog, 1 Dewloren, 1 Fishborg Removed: 1 Swap Dewloren Effect => Level Eater Discard Level Eater => Effect Fishborg 5. Field: 1 Ronin, 1 Dewloren (Lv 5), 1 Fishborg Hand: 2 HK Grave: 1 Des Frog, 1 Dewloren, 1 Level Eater Synchro Fishborg + Dewloren => Dewloren Discard 1 HK => Effect Fishborg Removed: 1 Swap 6. Field: 1 Ronin, 1 Dewloren, 1 Fishborg Hand: 1 HK Grave: 1 Des Frog, 2 Dewloren, 1 Level Eater Removed: 1 Swap Synchro Fishborg + Dewloren => Powertool Effect Powertool 3 Symbol => Symbol 7. Field: 1 Ronin, 1 Powertool Hand: 1 HK, 1 Symbol Grave: 1 Des Frog, 3 Dewloren, 1 Fishborg, 1 Level Eater Removed: 1 Swap Symbol Dewloren Level Eater => Powertool 8. Field: 1 Ronin, 1 Powertool (Lv 6), 1 Dewloren (Symbol), 1 Level Eater Hand: 1 HK, 1 Symbol Grave: 1 Des Frog, 2 Dewloren, 1 Fishborg Removed: 1 Swap Effect Dewloren => Level Eater, Symbol, Powertool Discard Level Eater => Fishborg Effect 9. Field: 1 Ronin, 1 Dewloren, 1 Fishborg Hand: 1 HK, 1 Symbol Grave: 1 Des Frog, 2 Dewloren, 1 Level Eater Removed: 1 Swap Synchro Fishborg + Dewloren => Powertool Effect Powertool 3 DDR => DDR 10. Field: 1 Ronin, 1 Powertool Hand: 1 HK, 1 Symbol, 1 DDR Grave: 1 Des Frog, 3 Dewloren, 1 Level Eater, 1 Fishborg Removed: 1 Swap Discard 1 HK DDR => Swap => Treeborn to Grave 11. Field: 1 Ronin, 1 Powertool, 1 Swap (DDR) Hand: 1 Symbol Grave: 1 Des Frog, 3 Dewloren, 1 Level Eater, 1 Fishborg, 1 Treeborn Removed: - Symbol Dewloren Effect Level Eater => Dewloren 12. Field: 1 Ronin, 1 Powertool, 1 Dewloren (Symbol, Lv 5), 1 Swap (DDR), 1 Level Eater Hand: - Grave: 1 Des Frog, 2 Dewloren, 1 Fishborg, 1 Treeborn Removed: - Effect Dewloren => Level Eater, Symbol, Swap, DDR, Powertool Level Eater => Effect Fishborg 13. Field: 1 Ronin, 1 Dewloren (Lv 5), 1 Fishborg Hand: 1 Swap, 1 Symbol, 1 DDR Grave: 1 Des Frog, 2 Dewloren, 1 Treeborn, 1 Level Eater Removed: - Synchro Fishborg + Dewloren => Brioniac Symbol Dewloren 14. Field: 1 Ronin, 1 Brioniac, 1 Dewloren (Symbol) Hand: 1 Swap, 1 DDR Grave: 1 Des Frog, 2 Dewloren, 1 Treeborn, 1 Fishborg, 1 Level Eater Removed: - Effect Level Eater => Dewloren 15. Field: 1 Ronin, 1 Brioniac, 1 Dewloren (Symbol, Lv 5), 1 Level Eater Hand: 1 Swap, 1 DDR Grave: 1 Des Frog, 2 Dewloren, 1 Treeborn, 1 Fishborg Removed: - Effect Dewloren => Level Eater, Symbol, Ronin, Brioniac Discard Ronin => Special Swap => Treeborn to Grave Effect Ronin => Remove Treeborn 16. Field: 1 Swap, 1 Dewloren (Symbol, Lv 5) Hand: 1 DDR, 1 Symbol, 1 Level Eater Grave: 1 Des Frog, 2 Dewloren, 1 Treeborn, 1 Fishborg, 1 Ronin Removed: 1 Treeborn Discard Level Eater => Effect Fishborg Swap Effect => Swap Synchro Fishborg + Dewloren => Brioniac 17. Field: 1 Brioniac Hand: 1 DDR, 1 Symbol, 1 Swap Grave: 1 Des Frog, 3 Dewloren, 1 Treeborn, 1 Fishborg, 1 Level Eater, 1 Ronin Removed: 1 Treeborn Symbol Dewloren Effect Ronin => Remove Des Frog Effect Level Eater => Dewloren 18. Field: 1 Brioniac, 1 Dewloren (Symbol, Lv 5), 1 Level Eater, 1 Ronin Hand: 1 DDR, 1 Swap Grave: 2 Dewloren, 1 Treeborn, 1 Fishborg Removed: 1 Des Frog, 1 Treeborn Effect Dewloren => Level Eater, Symbol, Ronin, Brioniac 19. Field: 1 Dewloren (Lv 5) Hand: 1 DDR, 1 Symbol, 1 Swap, 1 Level Eater, 1 Ronin Grave: 2 Dewloren, 1 Treeborn, 1 Fishborg Removed: 1 Des Frog, 1 Treeborn Discard Ronin => Special Summon Swap Frog => Treeborn to Grave Discard Level Eater => Effect Fishborg Effect Swap 20. Field: 1 Dewloren (Lv 5), 1 Fishborg Hand: 1 DDR, 1 Symbol, 1 Swap Grave: 2 Dewloren, 2 Treeborn, 1 Fishborg, 1 Level Eater, 1 Ronin Removed: 1 Des Frog, 1 Treeborn Discard Swap DDR => Treeborn Synchro Fishborg + Treeborn => Formula => Draw 1 Effect Level => Eater Dewloren Synchro Formula + Dewloren => Brioniac 21. Field: 1 Brioniac, 1 Level Eater Hand: 1 Symbol, 1 HK Grave: 3 Dewloren, 3 Treeborn, 1 Fishborg, 1 Ronin, 1 Swap, 1 Formula Removed: 1 Des Frog Symbol Dewloren Effect Dewloren => Symbol, Level Eater Symbol Treeborn 22. Field: 1 Brioniac, 1 Dewloren, 1 Treeborn (Symbol) Hand: 1 HK, Level Eater Grave: 2 Dewloren, 2 Treeborn, 1 Fishborg, 1 Ronin, 1 Swap, 1 Formula Removed: 1 Des Frog Effect Brioniac Discard Level Eater => Symbol Discard 1 HK => Effect Fishborg 23. Field: 1 Brioniac, 1 Dewloren, 1 Treeborn, 1 Fishborg Hand: 1 Symbol Grave: 2 Dewloren, 2 Treeborn, 1 Ronin, 1 Swap, 1 Formula, 1 Level Eater Removed: 1 Des Frog Synchro Fishborg + Treeborn => Formula => Draw 1 Synchro Formula + Dewloren => Powertool 24. Field: 1 Brioniac, 1 Powertool Hand: 1 Symbol, 1 HK Grave: 3 Dewloren, 3 Treeborn, 1 Ronin, 1 Swap, 2 Formula, 1 Level Eater Removed: 1 Des Frog Symbol Dewloren Effect Level Eater => Dewloren Effect Ronin => remove Swap 25. Field: 1 Brioniac, 1 Dewloren (Symbol, Lv 5), 1 Ronin, 1 Level Eater Hand: 1 Symbol, 1 HK Grave: 2 Dewloren, 3 Treeborn, 2 Formula Removed: 1 Des Frog, 1 Swap Effect Dewloren => Symbol, Level Eater, Ronin, Powertool Symbol Treeborn Effect Brioniac Discard Level Eater => Symbol Discard Ronin => Effect Fishborg 26. Field: 1 Brioniac, 1 Dewloren (Lv 5), Treeborn, Fishborg Hand: 1 Symbol, 1 HK Grave: 2 Dewloren, 2 Treeborn, 2 Formula, 1 Level Eater, 1 Ronin Removed: 1 Des Frog, 1 Swap Synchro Fishborg + Treeborn => Formula => Draw 1 Synchro Formula + Dewloren => Powertool 27. Field: 1 Brioniac, 1 Powertool Hand: 1 Symbol, 2 HK Grave: 3 Dewloren, 3 Treeborn, 3 Formula, 1 Level Eater, 1 Ronin, 1 Fishborg Removed: 1 Des Frog, 1 Swap --- Loop Start --- Symbol Dewloren Effect Level Eater => Powertool 28. Field: 1 Brioniac, 1 Powertool (Lv 6), 1 Dewloren (Symbol), 1 Level Eater Hand: 2 HK Grave: 2 Dewloren, 3 Treeborn, 3 Formula, 1 Ronin, 1 Fishborg Removed: 1 Des Frog, 1 Swap Effect Dewloren => Level Eater + Symbol Symbol Formula 29. Feld: 1 Brioniac, 1 Powertool (Lv 6), 1 Dewloren, 1 Formula (Symbol) Hand: 2 HK Grave: 2 Dewloren, 3 Treeborn, 2 Formula, 1 Ronin, 1 Fishborg Removed: 1 Des Frog, 1 Swap Brioniac Effect => Discard Level Eater => Symbol Effect Level Eater => Powertool 30. Feld: 1 Brioniac, 1 Powertool (Lv 5), 1 Dewloren, 1 Formula, 1 Level Eater Hand: 2 HK, 1 Symbol Grave: 2 Dewloren, 3 Treeborn, 2 Formula, 1 Ronin, 1 Fishborg, 1 Level Eater Removed: 1 Des Frog, 1 Swap Synchro Formula + Dewloren + Level Eater => Trishula Symbol Dewloren 31. Feld: 1 Brioniac, 1 Powertool (Lv 5), 1 Dewloren (Symbol) Hand: 2 HK Grave: 2 Dewloren, 3 Treeborn, 3 Formula, 1 Ronin, 1 Fishborg, 1 Level Eater Removed: 1 Des Frog, 1 Swap Effect Level Eater Dewloren Effect Dewloren => Level Eater, Symbol, Powertool 32. Feld: 1 Brioniac, 1 Dewloren (Lv 5) Hand: 2 HK, 1 Symbol, 1 Level Eater Grave: 2 Dewloren, 3 Treeborn, 3 Formula, 1 Ronin, 1 Fishborg Removed: 1 Des Frog, 1 Swap Symbol Formula Brioniac Effect => Discard Level Eater => Symbol 33. Feld: 1 Brioniac, 1 Dewloren (Lv 5), Formula Hand: 2 HK, 1 Symbol Grave: 2 Dewloren, 3 Treeborn, 2 Formula, 1 Ronin, 1 Fishborg, 1 Level Eater Removed: 1 Des Frog, 1 Swap Synchro Formula + Dewloren => Powertool 34. Feld: 1 Brioniac, 1 Powertool Hand: 2 HK, 1 Symbol Grave: 3 Dewloren, 3 Treeborn, 3 Formula, 1 Ronin, 1 Fishborg, 1 Level Eater Removed: 1 Des Frog, 1 Swap --- Loop End --- => Infinite Trishula[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Pretty sure this deck can still pull off the colossal armory loop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 So you're suggesting dropping Stardust and BRD for Armory Arm and Colossal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 The combo literally just keeos on going... I ha ti stop reading at somepoint too bad there are no librerians yet... they make it more fun / easier and can still akk be done in 1 turn I believe... but infinite trishula is a total B**** to go against and litterally I'd rather RAEG Quit when I realised what my opponeny was doing... But yeah... interesting Deck... I like it Who ever came up with that original play book is a freaking genius [quote name='Loki el Señor de los Aesir' timestamp='1304159492' post='5178378'] So you're suggesting dropping Stardust and BRD for Armory Arm and Colossal? [/quote] Once trishula hits the limit list you can do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 I love how even when Trish goes to 1 this still works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 [quote name='Loki el Señor de los Aesir' timestamp='1304169579' post='5178535'] I love how even when Trish goes to 1 this still works [/quote] Then why do you use 3? Also, why do you use 2 Power Tool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 [quote name='Batteryman ' timestamp='1304180428' post='5179025'] Then why do you use 3? Also, why do you use 2 Power Tool? [/quote] Incase it gets destroyed via Warning etc. and for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Honestly, good players would play Warning before you get out Trish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 >good Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 A bad player that owns Warnings would probably play it on one of the monsters that is Summoned multiple times after they realize that you're not done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Nats has few bad players anyway. Depends what you call bad. Is it already consistant enough to not have to run dupe frog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decafrofl Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 D.D. Crow. Thanks for the free win brah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 [quote name='decafrofl' timestamp='1304185408' post='5179211'] D.D. Crow. Thanks for the free win brah [/quote] Nobody sides it. Effect Veiler can stop the deck just as easily and is more commonly used. So I'd like to thank you for the free win since you obviously aren't very good at the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decafrofl Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 [quote name='Batteryman ' timestamp='1304186429' post='5179252'] Nobody sides it. Effect Veiler can stop the deck just as easily and is more commonly used. So I'd like to thank you for the free win since you obviously aren't very good at the game. [/quote] "Nobody sides it" isn't an excuse because it wrecks worse than Veiler on a single Symbol. Depending on my testing I may side it. Veiler can stop it too obviously, I was pointing out what was more devastating, and that apparently a good player can play around Veiler with this deck (I haven't tested much). Don't talk s***, I guarantee you've never topped a locals. I'm not talking s*** so advise you don't do the same =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 [quote name='decafrofl' timestamp='1304186528' post='5179254'] "Nobody sides it" isn't an excuse because it wrecks worse than Veiler on a single Symbol. Depending on my testing I may side it. Veiler can stop it too obviously, I was pointing out what was more devastating, and that apparently a good player can play around Veiler with this deck (I haven't tested much). Don't talk s***, I guarantee you've never topped a locals. I'm not talking s*** so advise you don't do the same =/ [/quote] Shapesnatch has topped locals, actually, but you make a valid point. D.D. Crow isn't sided nearly as much but one would consider it more damaging than Veiler (albeit less versatile). Weighing the options up - no one except him will be playing Frog FTK at nationals, Veiler has more uses than Crow in the current environment so I would run Veiler over Crow. That being said, Crow is still decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 [quote name='decafrofl' timestamp='1304186528' post='5179254'] "Nobody sides it" isn't an excuse because it wrecks worse than Veiler on a single Symbol. Depending on my testing I may side it. Veiler can stop it too obviously, I was pointing out what was more devastating, and that apparently a good player can play around Veiler with this deck (I haven't tested much). Don't talk s***, I guarantee you've never topped a locals. I'm not talking s*** so advise you don't do the same =/ [/quote] How does it wreck worse than Veiler? Both stop the combo, which is considered wrecking the deck. Neither one wrecks more. "Nobody sides it," is an excuse. If people aren't siding it, he won't have problems. A good player might be able to play around a bad player's Veiler, but if a good player uses Veiler with knowledge of the combo and times it at a moment that ruins the play, it would be extremely difficult to play around. I don't know why you would say that I've never topped a locals. You don't know me and quite a few people have topped locals. It isn't that difficult. Also, you are talking s***. You said that I've never topped a locals. I don't know how that ISN'T considered talking s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decafrofl Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 [quote name='Batteryman ' timestamp='1304186883' post='5179268'] How does it wreck worse than Veiler? Both stop the combo, which is considered wrecking the deck. Neither one wrecks more. "Nobody sides it," is an excuse. If people aren't siding it, he won't have problems. A good player might be able to play around a bad player's Veiler, but if a good player uses Veiler with knowledge of the combo and times it at a moment that ruins the play, it would be extremely difficult to play around. [size="7"]I don't know why you would say that I've never topped a locals. You don't know me[/size] and quite a few people have topped locals. It isn't that difficult. Also, you are talking s***. You said that I've never topped a locals. I don't know how that ISN'T considered talking s***. [/quote] [quote name='Batteryman ' timestamp='1304186429' post='5179252'] Nobody sides it. Effect Veiler can stop the deck just as easily and is more commonly used. [size="7"]So I'd like to thank you for the free win since you obviously aren't very good at the game.[/size] [/quote] Contradiction. In any case, like I said, not that I'm extremely experienced with the deck, but from my understanding if you have a full grasp on the playstyle you can play around a Veiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 I don't expect to win It's just a fun deck I'd like to take haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 [quote name='Loki el Señor de los Aesir' timestamp='1304187625' post='5179300'] I don't expect to win It's just a fun deck I'd like to take haha [/quote] Enjoy your half an hour duels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Also: Crow wrecks this more than veiler. You can play around veiler with this. @Candian: go to time with this: side burn cards, problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Nobody will play crow at nats because the meta will be Sams, Keepers and Sabers, and Sabers can get around crow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 [quote name='decafrofl' timestamp='1304187214' post='5179281'] Contradiction. In any case, like I said, not that I'm extremely experienced with the deck, but from my understanding if you have a full grasp on the playstyle you can play around a Veiler. [/quote] How so? What's the contradiction between me saying, "I don't know why you would say that I've never topped a locals. You don't know me," and me saying, "So I'd like to thank you for the free win since you obviously aren't very good at the game." @Olly: Crow only wrecks more because it requires less thought. If your opponent knows the deck, they can use Veiler at the right time to stop you. @iHop: Exactly what I said earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 You crow a Dewloren, I lose. You veiler, I'll just synchro into something else, Symbols stays on the field, I bring out Dewloren again or Brionac, I can still win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 [quote name='Loki el Señor de los Aesir' timestamp='1304188569' post='5179340'] You crow a Dewloren, I lose. You veiler, I'll just synchro into something else, Symbols stays on the field, I bring out Dewloren again or Brionac, I can still win. [/quote] But nobody sides Crow. :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 It wasn't about that, it was about which one hurt the deck more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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