Gorz Token Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 With the new Structure Deck coming out soon for Dark Worlds I decided to make some cards to help them out even more. I saw they have no Synchros or Tuners. [img]http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1596/331303.jpg[/img] Gray [spoiler='Lore']1 Fiend-Type Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner "Dark World" monsters When this card is Synchro Summoned Each player discards their entire hand and draws the same number of cards they discarded. Increase the ATK of this card by 100 for every "Dark World" card discarded by this effect.[/spoiler] [img]http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1596/331303.jpg[/img] Platinum [spoiler='Lore']1 Fiend-Type Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner "Dark World" monsters This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Synchro Summoning. Once per turn you can increase the ATK of this card by 800 then discard one card. If the card is a "Dark World" card this card gains an additional 500 ATK. When this card is destroyed by a card effect controlled by your opponent you may Special Summon one "Dark World" monster from your Graveyard. At the End of every turn reduce the ATK of this card by 500.[/spoiler] [img]http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1596/331303.jpg[/img] White (Not Snow, see as Snow in the Dark Worlds is White.) [spoiler='Lore']1 Fiend-Type Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner "Dark World" monsters Every time you discard card(s) from your hand to the Graveyard (Except by this cards effect) draw 1 card. Once per turn select 1 card in your opponents hand and discard it to the Graveyard, then discard 1 card from your hand.[/spoiler] [img]http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1596/331303.jpg[/img] Regalia [spoiler='Lore']If this card is discarded from the hand to the Graveyard by a card effect, Special Summon it. If this card is discarded from the hand to the Graveyard by your opponent's card effect, you can Special Summon this card as a Level 3.[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiningGodMan Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Very Good Cards, Good OCG, Balance, Images: 9/10! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorz Token Posted July 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 [quote name='ShiningGodMan' timestamp='1311770475' post='5391272'] Very Good Cards, Good OCG, Balance, Images: 9/10! [/quote] Thank you. They're actually going in my Fan Fic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorz Token Posted July 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Bump. Added Whyyte, Reaper of Dark World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelds9 Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Dark Worlds will already be Tier 1, there is no need for Synchro's. They can use Fableds for that. Otherwise, the cards are OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Psyduck Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Bronze is already covered by a Dark World - Bronn, and I'd suggest Platinn or similar, or Plattin-Nuum, for Platinuum, to make it more distinct from the colour. Other than that they don't look bad. Bronzze is fine, aside from the duplication in the name. Platinuum probably needs a lower original ATK - when it uses the effect, it's ATK will go to 3500, which is a bit much for a level 8. 3500 if it was a Dark World would be plenty, especially since you'll probably drop Dark Worlds with it a lot. For Whyyte, I'd make the draw once per turn - Dark Worlds have plenty of draw power, so once per turn would be enough. Raeg is nice. Fits the theme, and is flexible enough without being too abusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorz Token Posted July 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Changed some things seeing them again and thinking, "Yea... Plati-nuum is sorta busted..." 1. Whyyte can stay how he is since it's basically Hyper Lib for DW's if you think about it and he isn't once per turn... 2. Changed Bronzze to Gryy. 3. Gave Plati-nuum lower attack and a decrease effect. 4. Gave Colors for what they rep. 5. BUMP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 so first one is a little like Broww's effect Platium you may want to consider lowering the base atk even more given its boosting ability 8.1/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorz Token Posted July 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1311811177' post='5393327'] so first one is a little like Broww's effect Platium you may want to consider lowering the base atk even more given its boosting ability 8.1/10 [/quote] Not trying to be mean, but how does the first effect at like Broww? It's card destruction upon sychro summoning. Plati-nuum isn't bad with all the destruction that would be in this format and maybe next if Konami isn't careful. Having a 3.5k or 3k turn into a 3k or 2.5k ATK at the end phase isn't to OP so the decrease even further would make him kinda useless to bring out. I don't mind your suggestions, I just think they aren't to convincing. Thank you for the rating and advice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 because Broww has the draw power effect, which your first synchro has a little of it as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 You know, TC, there's a really, really important thing in card making. It's called "Once per turn". See, as a IRL DW user in Japan, I have to say Whyyte, if released, will be metabreak. Its drawing effect goes off like, three times a turn, so it's even more abusable than Librarian. What? More abusable than Librarian? *Faints* Not to mention, the others aren't real usable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorz Token Posted July 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1311812532' post='5393413'] because Broww has the draw power effect, which your first synchro has a little of it as well [/quote] I just copied Card Destructions' effect. That's why there's a Capital E I haven't changed since I'm to lazy. [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110306003023/yugioh/images/thumb/6/6a/CardDestructionSDDL-EN-C-1E.png/300px-CardDestructionSDDL-EN-C-1E.png[/img] [quote=" Darkplant - PAIN "]You know, TC, there's a really, really important thing in card making. It's called "Once per turn". See, as a IRL DW user in Japan, I have to say Whyyte, if released, will be metabreak. Its drawing effect goes off like, three times a turn, so it's even more abusable than Librarian. What? More abusable than Librarian? *Faints* Not to mention, the others aren't real usable. [/quote] What about "[b]Once per duel[/b] when you discard card(s) from you hand to the Graveyard draw 3 cards." To broken or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 [quote name='Gorz Token' timestamp='1311813041' post='5393452']What about "[b]Once per duel[/b] when you discard card(s) from you hand to the Graveyard draw 3 cards." To broken or no? [/quote] You DO understand how the game works, right? Because if you did, you'd know that a +3 is an instant "Win the duel". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorz Token Posted July 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant - PAIN' timestamp='1311813572' post='5393494'] You DO understand how the game works, right? Because if you did, you'd know that a +3 is an instant "Win the duel". [/quote] Not really... It's not always going to win you the duel if you don't draw what you need... I guess 2 would be settled and end that story. Idk how the Japanese run those DW's (Since I don't watch those OCG games...), but with a +3 here with TCG exclusive Tengu if you draw him with one in hand. You INSTA LOSE! Plus you still need to meet the requirements... Meaning in a normal dark world deck (TCG) you need to play Dealings, Lightning, Dragged Down or something else... And not many discard effect cards are in a TCG DW deck... Coming with the OCG cards we get this Fall they would limit or even ban these before the deck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 [quote name='Gorz Token' timestamp='1311814060' post='5393540']Coming with the OCG cards we get this Fall they would limit or even ban these before the deck... [/quote] Yeah, exactly. You KNOW these are broken. Just go make support on - well, let's say, Cyberdarks or something that's undersupported. DWs are oversupported on the other hand, and it's pretty damn pointless to post stuff that support them here. Oh, and BTW, nothing to do, but there's no such thing as a Gorz Token. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Psyduck Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 [quote name='Gorz Token' timestamp='1311807722' post='5393164'] Whyyte can stay how he is since it's basically Hyper Lib for DW's if you think about it and he isn't once per turn... [/quote] Hyper Librarian is broken itself - comparing your card to it doesn't make for a strong case. This is even easier to get draws off, because whilst Librarian at least needs you to Synchro Summon again, meaning you need more monsters, this requires you to do no more than activate one of a number of spells, or use one of a few monster effects. Even without the OCG cards, it's no harder to get draws off this than it is to get them off Librarian. Drawing 3 cards and getting 3 Tengu is almost impossible, even ignoring the fact that unless you used the effect in the first few turns you'll have likely drawn at least 1 already. Yes horrible draws can happen, but in a decent deck game-changing ones are far more likely, because most decks, and Dark World ones especially, don't have many cards that are dead in the hand. Looking at Gryy again, it probably doesn't need the ATK boost. Whilst it's unlikely to reach insane ATK levels, 2500 is already at the top end of the ATK range for level 6 synchros - the only ones that are higher I can recall are the non-effect Gaia Knight and banned Goyo. A Card Destruction on a 2500 body is already plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorz Token Posted July 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 [quote name='Time Psyduck' timestamp='1311839471' post='5394675'] Hyper Librarian is broken itself - comparing your card to it doesn't make for a strong case. [b]This is even easier to get draws off, because whilst Librarian at least needs you to Synchro Summon again, meaning you need more monsters,[/b] this requires you to do no more than activate one of a number of spells, or use one of a few monster effects. Even without the OCG cards, it's no harder to get draws off this than it is to get them off Librarian. Drawing 3 cards and getting 3 Tengu is almost impossible, even ignoring the fact that unless you used the effect in the first few turns you'll have likely drawn at least 1 already. Yes horrible draws can happen, but in a decent deck game-changing ones are far more likely, because most decks, and Dark World ones especially, don't have many cards that are dead in the hand. Looking at Gryy again, it probably doesn't need the ATK boost. Whilst it's unlikely to reach insane ATK levels, 2500 is already at the top end of the ATK range for level 6 synchros - the only ones that are higher I can recall are the non-effect Gaia Knight and banned Goyo. A Card Destruction on a 2500 body is already plenty. [/quote] Junk Synchron, Glow-up Bulb, Spore and one Level 3 Plant. (More monters?) I can get all that first turn... Junk Synchron a Glow-up Bulb, Special Doppelwarrior. (-2) (0) Tune Warrior and Synchron for Lib. Remove said level 3 plant for Spore (Lonefire, Dandylion) Tune with Token and Spore for Lib. Draw 1 (-1) (+1) Tune other token and Glow-up for Formula. Draw 3 (+2) (+4) Tune for Black Rose. Draw 1 (+5) Blow up field. (+3) (+5) Oh and lets throw in a Pot of Avarice and put back the Formula, 2 Libs, Black Rose and one other monster. (+5) (+7) Hey now I have hand control and can play maybe a monster reborn and have field control while I'm at it... This isn't even hard to get off and happens almost every turn in plants... And besides Black Rose I could go Quasar or Halberd and Swing for easy game... (And still have a +5 to +7...) So Whyyte is more broken?? I think not... Heck you even have this. Junk Synchron a Glow-up Bulb, Special Doppelwarrior. (-2) (0) Tune Warrior and Synchron for Lib. Remove said level 3 plant for Spore (Lonefire, Dandylion) Tune with Token and Spore for Lib. Draw 1 (-1) (+1) Tune other token and Glow-up for Formula. Draw 3 (+2) (+4) Use Bulb and Synchro For Brionac. Draw 1 (+3) (+5) Bounce their monsters. Synchro Formula and Brio for Stardust. Draw 1 (+4) (+6) (Not Counting Bounce Effects) Monster Reborn (+3) (+5) Formula and Synchro for Shooting Star. Draw 1 (+4) (+6) That just happened in a duel online with another kid... Are you saying this isn't broken?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Psyduck Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 No, I'm not. Hyper Librarian is broken, and should be banned, and Lonefire should probably be Limited as well. The fact that you can say Whyyte is a DW Librarian does not help you make the case for it being balanced, because you're saying it's no more broken than something else [i]that's also broken.[/i] That more broken cards exist doesn't mean your card isn't broken - for example Change of Heart and Brain Control are both banned: both of them are broken, but Change of Heart is still superior to Brain Control. With Dealings, Broww, and Gate, plus Card Destruction and Morphing Jar, Dark Worlds have a lot of draw power as is. It's not something they need more of. Once per turn is more than enough. At the very least, make it when something is discarded by an effect, since as it is it works for discards as costs, which isn't what Dark Worlds do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 "[#10127] You have reached your quota of negative votes for the day" The TC's ignorance is simply dissapointing. If he knows what he was talking about, he wouldn't make these cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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