El Majishan Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 So its that time of year... lets have your predictions. Ban: DandylionTrunadeMonster RebornPlaguespreader Zombie? limited: Black RoseLonefireSuper Poly?Duality Semi-Limited: Miracle Fusion No longer on List: Mystical Space TyphoonDebris Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Plaguespreader's not getting banned. No way; it hasn't made that much of a significant impact this format to really warrant it. Dandy'll go; I'm almost sure of it. Reborn? Eh. Don't see it getting moved; same with Giant Trunade. I wouldn't be surprised to see Reborn Tengu get semi'd. (Not that I'm saying it should or shouldn't, but with Konami's logic that's very much a possibility.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Konoe A. Mercury Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 no the point of this as to get your thoughts on what is going to get hit, not just the trolly "no" Plaguespreader's not getting banned. No way; it hasn't made that much of a significant impact this format to really warrant it. Dandy'll go; I'm almost sure of it. Reborn? Eh. Don't see it getting moved; same with Giant Trunade. I wouldn't be surprised to see Reborn Tengu get semi'd. (Not that I'm saying it should or shouldn't, but with Konami's logic that's very much a possibility.) Plague was just a thought cuz the made pain painter. Tengu most likely will be around till the ocg gets it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Take note that Pain Painter is a TCG Exclusive and the OCG makes the banlist. Unless the TCG branch decides to alter the banlist to include Tengu (they really should), Plague being banned because of Pain Painter is also unlikely. Dandylion could go. It got bumped back to Limited last list, yet the deck is still extremely strong. Black Rose Dragon isn't really a huge issue this format. Dandylion is what is making Debris so problematic, what with the Foolish Burial + Debris -> Trishula and 2 tokens combo. Trishula is definitely getting limited in TCG (it's been limited in OCG). I can also see Lonefire getting a limit, merely because 2 seems unneeded, as most players just use it to fuel the Grave for Avarice. That said, Avarice getting a hit instead seems acceptably likely as well. Fishborg Blaster will hopefully get killed. Librarian needs a Limit. Gateway of the Six needs a ban. I dont think Super Poly Heroes are that huge, so I doubt Miracle and Super Poly will get touched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tristan T. Taylor Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Ban: Librarian, Dandy, Gateway of the Six, Dewloren, Brionac, Shein's Smoke Signal (Or Limited)Limit: Lonefire, Shi En, Fishborg, Avarice, Krisya, Royal Tribute, Formula Synchron, Trishula (I know it's already @1 in the OCG), Six Sam UnitedSemi: Swap Frog, Duality, Tengu (Unlikely, cos TCG), Skill Drain (Maybe?)Unlimited: MST, Spirit Reaper Tour Guide might go to 2, unless Sangan gets banned. Pretty unlikely cos TCG though. Pretty sure that's everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Semi: DualityWhy would a balanced card get hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cursed Reaction Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 So its that time of year... lets have your predictions. Ban: Dandylion Hopefully. Trunade Would like to see it banned, but won't be.Reborn It's TCG exclusive and I doubt they'll do an emergency ban.Plaguespreader Zombie? No. limited: Black Rose No.Lonefire Maybe.Super Poly? No.Duality Definitely not. Semi-Limited: Miracle Fusion What? No longer on List: Mystical Space Typhoon Fine.Debris Dragon It's like one of the more broken Tuners. I can also see Lonefire getting a limit, merely because 2 seems unneeded, as most players just use it to fuel the Grave for Avarice. That said, Avarice getting a hit instead seems acceptably likely as well. Half the combos involve double Lonefire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Lonefire will more than definitely see the limit. Gatway is going to be banned and Smoke Signal will be limited. Maybe Descendant might get hit? Fishborg should definitely get the ban. Let's see what Konami does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ａ・ジェネクス・リモート Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Reborn It's TCG exclusive and I doubt they'll do an emergency ban.Monster REBORN, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Banned T.G. Hyper LibrarianFormula SynchroLegendary Six Samurai - Shi EnRoyal Tribute Hopefully Anyway, Pika doesn't like this kind of threads so expect a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaWave Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 So its that time of year... lets have your predictions. Ban: Dandylion MaybeTrunade I fuckin hope notReborn Doesnt need to bePlaguespreader Zombie? Wouldnt care limited: Black Rose Again, dont care. Most people only use one anywayLonefire HOPE SO! Should be banned...but limited stops alot of the broken combos.Super Poly? Doesnt need to be.Duality Eh Semi-Limited: Miracle Fusion Are you high? No longer on List: Mystical Space Typhoon Would love thisDebris Dragon Dont care I hope Future Fusion gets banned, honestly. Tuningware needs a list hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tristan T. Taylor Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Why would a balanced card get hit?Personally, I find it plausible for a semi-limit. And it's what I think Konami may do. It was one of the more iffy cards on my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 When I say reborn i meant monster reborn...my mistake. Debris is a pretty balance imo..its dandy that made him an issue Duality cuz of Konami logic. Didnt know pain painter was TCG only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Duality isn't getting hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cursed Reaction Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 I hope Future Fusion gets banned, honestly. Tuningware needs a list hit. Wait, what?When I say reborn i meant monster reborn...my mistake. Debris is a pretty balance imo..its dandy that made him an issue Monster Reborn helps losing players recover against massive Synchro plays. It encourages good play. If your opponent uses it, they probably were gonna win anyway so it doesn't matter. Debris should either stay where it is (if plants get hit) but if they don't, it should go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Banned T.G. Hyper LibrarianFormula SynchroLegendary Six Samurai - Shi EnRoyal Tribute Hopefully Anyway, Pika doesn't like this kind of threads so expect a lock. I used to think T.G. Hyper Librarian was fine and the loops were the problem..then it hit me....why the f*** should you get +1 when I synchro summon? Wait, what? Monster Reborn helps losing players recover against massive Synchro plays. It encourages good play. If your opponent uses it, they probably were gonna win anyway so it doesn't matter. Debris should either stay where it is (if plants get hit) but if they don't, it should go down. Giving players access to monsters in MY grave with no cost is broken enough by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cursed Reaction Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 I used to think T.G. Hyper Librarian was fine and the loops were the problem..then it hit me....why the f*** should you get +1 when I synchro summon? If they get out Librarian, they've most likely gone for a loop. Basically, they were going to win so the extra draw there isn't the main problem. As stated, the problem are the loops. The simplest way to remove them is to remove what causes them (i.e. Librarian) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaWave Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Wait, what? Tuningware + Machine Dupe + Quickdraw = Junk Destroyer with 3 destructions PLUS you draw 3 cards. And that's WITHOUT Librarian on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ａ・ジェネクス・リモート Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Giving players access to monsters in MY grave with no cost is broken enough by itself.Reborn is fine. It's really not gamebreaking at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tristan T. Taylor Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Tuningware + Machine Dupe + Quickdraw = Junk Destroyer with 3 destructions PLUS you draw 3 cards. And that's WITHOUT Librarian on the field.Unlikely combo, and you've got to factor in that that would only happen in JunkDoppel, which isn't even tier 1 anyway, and doesn't need hitting. Also, the problem in this case is Dupe, not Tuningware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Giving players access to monsters in MY grave with no cost is broken enough by itself.Because I wanna reborn your Hyperion for my Gadget deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cursed Reaction Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Tuningware + Machine Dupe + Quickdraw = Junk Destroyer with 3 destructions PLUS you draw 3 cards. And that's WITHOUT Librarian on the field. > Implying that QuickdrawMachines is meta. That's a 3 card combo requiring an extra card for Quickdraw anyway. Dupe is kinda broken but there are so little meta decks with it in that it's not a problem. Anyway, with Fish, I can make infinite Trishulas and win next turn. ujelly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Because I wanna reborn your Hyperion for my Gadget deck. Reborn your scrap dragon, your shi en ect ect....sure giving me a boss monster for free is pretty casual and not game breaking at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cursed Reaction Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Reborn your scrap dragon, your shi en ect ect....sure giving me a boss monster for free is pretty casual and not game breaking at all. Sigh. If you need to use Monster Reborn, you were in a losing situation and Monster Reborn simply pushed you back into the game. And that's the most common situation. If you are using it in a winning situation, you were going to win anyway. If you aren't going to win that turn, your opponent are just as likely to come back with their own play, rendering your efforts wasted. In this meta, don't expect your monsters to stay around for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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