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[quote name='Alex C. Exodia' timestamp='1313630352' post='5451762']
I'm American, and your kinda right. 70 Years ago to this year, we tried to keep out of Wars. Only after we were attacked did we join in. [b]10 years ago, we joined in after being attacked in our own Country(Nobody has actually ever tried that before.) by a certain organization or two[/b](But there were other ways to solve said crisis. Infiltration, for one.)
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i agree with u on the first part, but 9/11 was indeed by the US government. bush paid osama bin laden to take responsibility. then america would have a reason to go all over the middle east.

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[quote name='Larxene' timestamp='1313629374' post='5451743']
America needs to mind its own business and stop acting like the world's police.
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But... we are world police...

[quote name='Smesh' timestamp='1313654538' post='5452427']
Couldn't have said it any better.

OT:[b] the state of Texas [/b]and all redneck inhibited (spelling?) areas.
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... ... ...really?

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[quote name='I-dreezyAFG' timestamp='1313685751' post='5452941']

i agree with u on the first part, but 9/11 was indeed by the US government. bush paid osama bin laden to take responsibility. then america would have a reason to go all over the middle east.
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If I didn't have this to say, I might have some reason to agree: What about the booming economy in US(Well, at the time, with like $1.50 Gas.)

And this is probably the most civilized thread in General for a few weeks.

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[quote name='Alex C. Exodia' timestamp='1313707527' post='5453641']
If I didn't have this to say, I might have some reason to agree: What about the booming economy in US(Well, at the time, with like $1.50 Gas.)

And this is probably the most civilized thread in General for a few weeks.
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are you comparing something that happened 10 years ago with something currently happening? im seriously asking, not criticising

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[quote name='I-dreezyAFG' timestamp='1313712235' post='5453764']

are you comparing something that happened 10 years ago with something currently happening? im seriously asking, not criticising
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But you did speak of something that could be considered a scandal that is older. I was replying to what you said.

And Luna, eh. It could be our downfall. We had Reason 70 Years ago, I don't think we have much of a reason now. I know that 9/11 Happened, but we could have done something instead of this war. We could have put a Covert Operative in there and have him knife bin Laden.

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I'm sure Clairiex isn't stupid enough to have just thought about international conflicts in her judgement. She must have taken into account countries where America helps certain people come to power where no war is involved. The war in Iraq is just one example of America's international affairs as I'm sure you know

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Well, If the US focused on helping ITSELF and not helping all of the other poor countries, it'd be in better shape. Let's face the facts; The countries that are in poor condition are in a poor condition because they (for the most part) can't take care of themselves. With all of the "help" we are giving, they probably won't know what to do when they stop getting aid. Survival of the fittest, ya know?

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[quote name='Lunar Origin' timestamp='1313718388' post='5453944']
Well, If the US focused on helping ITSELF and not helping all of the other poor countries, it'd be in better shape. Let's face the facts; The countries that are in poor condition are in a poor condition because they (for the most part) can't take care of themselves. With all of the "help" we are giving, they probably won't know what to do when they stop getting aid. Survival of the fittest, ya know?
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That would work except for the part where the world isn't full of cold hearted robots. America being the super power it is does not give it the right to sit back and laugh as poor countries who do not have the same resources struggle to survive and feed their people. Americans are nicer than that and you can't change that.

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[quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1313720067' post='5453997']
He's not saying we should sit back and laugh, he's saying we should stop helping people until we get our own sh*t under control.
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Your 'sh*t' is under control. At least to an extent where you can and should provide aid to poorer countries

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The problem is the 'American Dream'. This does sound like an outrageous claim, but I believe it to be true. Now, the reasoning behind this is that the mega rich don't get taxed nearly enough. When you have a billion dollars, does it matter if you earn 20 million one year instead of 50? No, but the mega rich don't get taxed enough anyway. I believe this is because the middle and lower class don't support it. They don't support it because of the 'American Dream'. The dream promises them that they can one day have as much money as Bill Gates. Since they believe that they don't want to raise taxes on the rich.

While I say that is true, I will also shift the blame elsewhere. George Bush's tax cuts. Why does the country have trillions of dollars of dept? Because the people of the country want everything. They want to get both lower taxes and the highest possible amount of social services. This is just impossible but people don't realize it.

In short the people of the USA need to realize that higher taxes are effectively the only only good solution because the other solution would make the US one of the least friendly countries in the world.

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I'd like to make a slight correction to an earlier post that is making me mad!!!!

Larenxe stated: "America needs to mind its own business and stop acting like the world's police."

No just no! America does not need to mind our own buisness and stop being the WORLDS POLICE! The corrupt idiotic goverment officials in the US need to stop acting like the WORLDS POLICE!!! America as a whole doesn't want half the sh!t thats going on to be happening. 9/11 was a corrupted scheme by George Bush and Bin Laden just to go into Iraq and make sure they had no Nuke's. Also for the gas which Bush states we need so bad, yet we half plenty gas in Alaska that can be drilled. Think about it, why are we so worried about other countries nuke's yet we don't do anything about our's? The simple answer is corruption. If the US goverment was abolished, and was run by state and or local mallitia's their would be alot less poblems. We wouldn't be wasting billions of dollars on these corrupted politicians and their abuses of power, and everything that the US would be doing in other countries; would be gone about the right way!!!

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[quote name='PrimalFear' timestamp='1313723277' post='5454086']
I'd like to make a slight correction to an earlier post that is making me mad!!!!

Larenxe stated: "America needs to mind its own business and stop acting like the world's police."

No just no! America does not need to mind our own buisness and stop being the WORLDS POLICE! The corrupt idiotic goverment officials in the US need to stop acting like the WORLDS POLICE!!! America as a whole doesn't want half the sh!t thats going on to be happening. 9/11 was a corrupted scheme by George Bush and Bin Laden just to go into Iraq and make sure they had no Nuke's. Also for the gas which Bush states we need so bad. Think about it, why are we so worrid about other countries nuke's yet we don't do anything about our's? The simple answer is corruption. If the US's goverment was abolished, and was run by state and or local mallitia's their would be alot less poblems. We wouldn't be wasting billions of dollars on these corrupted politicians and their abuses of power, and everything that the US would be dong in other countries would be doing it the right way!!!
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Brilliant >.< clearly America should stop being America instead of being world police

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No your gtting me wrong, America should quit voting for corrupted idiots to take offices and political positions where their going to corruptedly act as a "World police". As someone stated before someone like Abe Lincon was a just leader, back in that time we didn't have millitary, we had mallitia's which was the way it should still be.

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