Please Help with my first cards - Ice Warriors Set from "Saint Seiya"

[pimp_7]

This cards are not definitive. Please help me with them and rate if possible, I would appreciate. It's the first time I am posting a Set like this for evaluation, I hope there's something you like:<pre class="prettyprint" style="text-align: center;">[spoiler=Normal Monsters 5/5][img]http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2063/45389h.jpg[/img]</pre>[center][center] [/center][/center]
[center][center]Hyoga's main goal to become a Saint was that he would at last be able to smash the ice over the sea, to visit the shipwreck where his mothers' body lay, deep under the sea. This obsession cost him his friend Isaac, who tried to save him when he was caught under the ice, and who was lost at sea after having accidentally put his eye out. Hyoga finally obtained the Cygnus Cloth by destroying a tall iceberg, after having at last managed to visit his mother's ship and placed a flower in her hair.


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[center][center]He told Hyoga that until he was able to let go of his emotional attachments, he would never be able to raise his Cosmo to the level of a Gold Saint. With a long-distance strike, he sunk the ship on which Hyoga's mother was buried to the bottom of the ocean, where it could never be reached. Enraged, Hyoga attacked his master. Camus was disappointed with his student's power, and trapped him in an unbreakable coffin of ice. It was his way of showing mercy to Hyoga, rather than letting him be killed by another Gold Saint.


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[center][center]A very honorable and righteous Saint, he was considered a threat by Pope Ares, who forced him into his control with his brain wash technique. After an emotional battle with Hyoga, Crystal takes his own life to stop Sanctuary from conquering East Siberia.


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[center][center]onsiderated the most intelligent saint. In fact, he helped the Pope on stars contemplation to see the future. Athena send him in a mission to ask help to Poseidon with the war against Hades. He died after using all his power to freeze his enemies together with the entire city of Atlantis, sealing them all in an ice world deep under the sea.


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[center][center]He is the Marina General of Kraken, and the guardian of the Arctic Ocean Mammoth Pillar. His notable personality traits are that of cold ruthless man, who has no emotion and fights for the ideal of true justice, much akin to the concept of means justified by goals. Kraken Isaac shares a past with Cygnus Hyoga and thus becomes an important figure in Hyoga's life.


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[center][center]If you control a WATER monster, you can Special Summon this card from your hand. When this card is successfully Special Summoned this way, you can change the Battle Position of 1 Attack Position opponent's monster to Defense Position.


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[center][center]When this card destroys a Defense Position monster by battle, if you control another WATER monster, your opponent must skip his/her next Draw Phase.


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[center][center]When this card has it's battle position changed from Attack Position to Defense Position by a card effect, draw 1 card.


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[center][center]Once per turn, you can change the battle position of 1 monster you control that attacked this turn to Defense Position. When this card is destroyed by a result of battle, you can add 1 level 4 “Cygnus Hyoga” monster from your Deck or Graveyard to your hand. This card is also treated as a “Bronze Saint” monster.


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[center][center]During your Draw Phase you draw this card, you can send it to the Graveyard to reveal the top card of your Deck. If it is a WATER monster add it to your hand. When this card inflicts battle damage to your opponent, banish 1 monster from his/her Graveyard. This card is also treated as a “Bronze Saint” monster.


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[center][center]When this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, you can Special Summon 1 “Bronze Saint” “Silver Saint” or “Gold Saint” WATER monster with 2000 DEF or less from your Deck.


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[center][center]If you control no monsters, you can Special Summon this card from your hand. During the end of the turn you Special Summoned this card this way, tribute this card and Special Summon 1 level 4 “Cygnus Hyoga” monster from your Graveyard.


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[center][center]If your opponent only controls Defense Position monsters, this card can attack your opponent directly by banishing 2 WATER monsters from your Graveyard. If this card destroys a Defense Position monster by battle, you can add 1 banished WATER monster to your Deck. Then shuffle it.


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[center][center]While this card is face-up on the field, every time an opponent's monster have its battle position changed by a card effect, look your opponent's hand and choose 1 card your opponent must discard. Once per turn you can activate the following effect:
- discard 1 WATER monster to negate the effect activation and destroy 1 card whose effect would destroy this card.


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[center][center]You can Special Summon this card from your hand by banishing 1 “Gold Saint Aquarius Camus” from your Graveyard or hand. While this card is in your Graveyard you can banish it to add 1 banished “Gold Saint Aquarius Camus” to your hand. Negate all effects of any monster that battles this card.


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[center][center]This card cannot be Normal Summoned or set. This card can only be Special Summoned by banishing 4 WATER monsters from your Graveyard. Once per turn, you can banish any number of WATER monsters from your Graveyard to return the same number of cards on the field to the top of the owner's Deck (the order of the returned cards must be random).


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This card cannot be Normal Summoned or set. This card can only be Special Summoned by banishing 1 level 4 “Cygnus Hyoga” monster and 1 level 7 or higher WATER monster from your Graveyard. When this card is successfully summoned discard any number of cards. Randomly banish 1 card from your opponent's hand for each discarded card. Once per turn, you can negate the activation of 1 Spell or Trap card and send it to the top of the owner's Deck. This card can be target of effects.<pre class="prettyprint" style="text-align: center;">[/spoiler]</pre><pre class="prettyprint" style="text-align: center;">[spoiler=Spells 5/5 ][img]http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/8566/45389g.jpg[/img]</pre>[/center][/center]
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[center][center]Special Summon 1 "Bronze Saint", "Silver Saint" or "Gold Saint" monster from your Graveyard or from your Banish Zone. The monster can't leave the field until your next Standby Phase.


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[center][center]Discard 1 "Bronze Saint", "Silver Saint" or "Gold Saint" monster from your hand. Draw 2 cards and gain Life Points equal the halve of the ATK of the discarded monster.


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[center][center]During your opponent's End Phase, you can reveal the top card of your Deck. If it is a “Bronze Saint”, “Silver Saint” or “Gold Saint” monster, Special Summon it to your side. If not, your opponent draws 1 card. When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard by an opponent's card effect, you can Special Summon 1 "Bronze Saint", "Silver Saint" or "Gold Saint" monster from your Deck.


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[center][center]You can only activate this card if you control an WATER monster. Change the battle position of all face-up Attack Position monsters your opponent controls to Defense Position. The monsters must remain in this position for the rest of the turn.[/center][/center]
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[center][center]Send 1 WATER monster from your Banished Pile and 1 WATER monster from your Deck to your Graveyard.[/center][/center]
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[center][center]You can only activate this card if you control an WATER monster. Negate the effects of all face-up monsters on the field until the end of this turn.


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[center][center]You can only activate this card if you control an WATER monster. Negate the activation of 1 Spell or Trap card and return it to the top of the owner's Deck.


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When an opponent's monster is destroyed by an WATER monster as a result of battle and sent to the Graveyard, your opponent cannot Special Summon any monster until your next Standby Phase.<pre class="prettyprint" style="text-align: center;">[img]http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/302/45389.jpg[/img]</pre>[/center][/center]
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[center][center]WATER monsters you control inflicts Piercing Damage when attacking Defense Position monsters whose DEF is lower than the ATK of the attacking monster.


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[center][center]Activate this card when an opponent's monster declares an attack to a WATER monster you control. Negate the attack and banish the attacking monster.


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[center][center]Change the Battle Position of 1 face-up Attack Position WATER monster you control to Defense Position to negate the activation of a Spell or Trap card and banish it. During the end of the turn that card was banished by this card effect, return it to the owner's hand.


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[center][center]Select 1 Attack Position WATER monster you control and change it to Defense Position. Your opponent can't declare an attack this turn.[/center][/center]
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[center][center]All face-up WATER monsters on the field gain 500 ATK until the end of this turn.

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[i]It is kind of fixed now[/i]

[☼◄Firewolf►☼]

[color=#800080][i]Good job for your first set.;--)[/i][/color]
[color=#800080][i]Some cards have easy effects but they are good, keep up the good work!:--)[/i][/color]
[color=#800080][i]I just have a little thing to say about this card:[/i][/color]
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[b][color=#FF8C00]This is just a little thing, make his ATK 400 or 800 because 1200 is a little to much.;--)[/color][/b]
[b][color=#FF8C00]Only to make it more balanced.;--)[/color][/b]

[pimp_7]

[quote name='=LucasKootStudios=' timestamp='1317386876' post='5549879']
[color=#800080][i]Good job for your first set.;--)[/i][/color]
[color=#800080][i]Some cards have easy effects but they are good, keep up the good work!:--)[/i][/color]
[color=#800080][i]I just have a little thing to say about this card:[/i][/color]
[color=#800080][i][img]http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/302/45389.jpg[/img][/i][/color]
[b][color=#FF8C00]This is just a little thing, make his ATK 400 or 800 because 1200 is a little to much.;--)[/color][/b]
[b][color=#FF8C00]Only to make it more balanced.;--)[/color][/b]
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Thanks a lot man, when I get some changes on these cards I will post again. Because I'm thinking in some different effects for the stronger monsters, the last five.

But about this card...really? Because Aqua Maddor is just the same, and is a vanilla card anyway. So I'm not so worried about it. But if you think there is some other effect monster that is overpowered or underpowered, please advice me again =)

[himurahenry]

Hi , I like your post, thére is a lot of good cards, the only one I think is to overpowered is Athena´s temple
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I really like it but I think it should be a gold saint, bronce saint, silver saint LV ( 5 or 4) and lower, because if you get a high LV card like kamui hyoga you wil have a lot of power for just drawing it, but is just my opinion
and here is my hyoga I will appreciate any opinion =)
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[pimp_7]

Nice card your Hyoga. Is just like if hyoga uses his ring of ice when he is summoned. And it is balanced too, it is on the same level of power than your other cards. I will just suggest a little change on the text. I guess this is better: "When this monster is Normal Summoned, select 1 face-up opponent's monster. (...)"

About my card I guess you're right. I will think in something better, thanks for appointing it for me =)

[himurahenry]

Thank you a lot .
another thing
I really like this one
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is relly a nice card

You can help me , with your opinion of this card
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and I think i would be a good thing for your set to make poseidon it will help kraken isac and maybe seadragon kanon too =)

[pimp_7]

Thanks for your comment about Degel =). Could you give me your opinion anout something? I was thinking about changing it's text to "(...)you can banish any number of Spell or Trap cards from your Graveyard with "WATER" in it's decription(...)". What you think? =)

About your Hades I liked it. It is balanced and have a nice effect. Once, I thought in a Hades card....somewhat like this, see what you think:

Level: 10
Dark
Warrior/Effect
ATK: 3000
DEF: 3000

"This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. It can only be Special Summoned, when it is in your Graveyard, by tributing 2 monsters. While this card remains on the field, cards on your opponent's Graveyard aren't affected by any effect from your opponent's cards. Once per turn, you can select and Special Summon 1 monster from either player's Graveyard. During the end of the turn you activated this effect, destroy the selected monster. Every time a monster is sent to the Graveyard inflict 500 direct damage to your opponent."

I used your summoning idea, of course. Together with other things I tought before
Also, I could add to the end of the text: "when this card leaves the field, it is banished"
This way it could be summoned only once...

[himurahenry]

Mmmmm about Degel I´m thinking that the text that you are saying is good, but about what this part in my opinion is not a good idea to put "with "WATER" in it's decription" I think that you are wishing to make the effect of degel more difficult to make it, if you want so , just limit the number of cards that you want to banish, like " you can banish up to 3 Water monsters " or " you can banish up to 3 Spell or trap cards" I mean is all to you , put a number or put the same text that you said, but anyway I just think that the idea of Degel itself make it a good card and represent the saint of the lost canvas series.

And about the Hades , I think is another good way to represent it in a card , but I just think is to overpowered with this part "While this card remains on the field, cards on your opponent's Graveyard aren't affected by any effect from your opponent's cards. " I mean is just to powerfull, you get it , you win , although is difficult to summon ( thinking better is not to difficlt ) it wolud be good if you want to put the text, make the ATK lower than 3000 and the DEF too.

That would be all
I just write a lot XD
PD I´m going to make my camus something like Degel, but with a limited numbers of card to banish and a little more weak like ATK 2600 or 2400 it depens on the final effect