krlsmnk Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 So the whole idea here is to mesh Machines and Dragons for kind of a "Steampunk-Dragon" feel. The idea is that the Dragons magically infused their life force into a crippled machine (hence fusion and synchros). _________________________________________________________________________________________ _ [img]http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/2751/68661.jpg[/img] You can discard this card to add one level 4 or lower Dragon or Machine-type monster from your deck to your hand. This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. *Recommended this card be limited to 2* [img]http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2751/68661.jpg[/img] You can discard this card to add one level 5 or higher Dragon or Machine-type monster from your deck to your hand. This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. *Recommended this card be limited to 1* [img]http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2751/68661.jpg[/img] 1 Machine-type tuner + 1 non-tuner Dragon-type monster This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. [img]http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2751/68661.jpg[/img] 1 Machine-Type Tuner + 1 or more non-tuner Dragon-type monster(s) This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. [img]http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/5127/68661h.jpg[/img] 1 Machine-Type Monster + 1 Dragon-type monster This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. [img]http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/2751/68661.jpg[/img] 1 Machine-Type Monster + 2 Dragon-type monsters This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. [img]http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2751/68661.jpg[/img] 1 Machine-Type Tuner + 1 or more non-tuner Dragon-type monster(s) This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. If this card battles a monster with more than 1500 ATK, you can banish 1 card in your hand to negate that monster's effect(s) and banish it. [img]http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2751/68661.jpg[/img] 1 Machine-Type Tuner + 1 or more non-tuner Dragon-type monster(s) This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. If this card battles a monster with 1500 or less ATK, banish it immediately with this card's effect (Damage Calculation is not applied). [img]http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9391/68661j.jpg[/img] This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned from the graveyard by banishing 2 Prototype Dragons from your graveyard, at least one of them being "Prototype Dragon - Gold" or "Prototype Dragon - Silver." This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. [img]http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8641/68661b.jpg[/img] 1 Machine or Dragon-type Tuner + Prototype Dragon - Platinum This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. This card is unaffected by card effects that do not specifically target Dragon or Machine-type monsters. [img]http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2751/68661.jpg[/img] Prototype Dragon monsters may be Special Summoned from the extra deck by banishing their required component cards in your graveyard. Once per turn, during your End Phase, if you discarded a card(s) this turn, you may send 1 Machine-type monster from your deck to your graveyard. [img]http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2751/68661.jpg[/img] Prototype Dragon monsters are unaffected by card effects controlled by your opponent, and cannot be destroyed by battle. Other field spells cannot be played or activated while this card is face-up on the field. __________________________________________________________________________________________ Some things to note: Platinum can ONLY be summoned from the graveyard, and by its own effect... but it's level 8, so use Trade-In. Science and Magic has to be destroyed or banished by a card effect, you cannot simply play a field spell over top of it. *Would recommend limiting it to 2* Prototype Manufacturing does not allow you to discard, it merely activates when you DO discard. You must use other cards to gain full use of its second effect. *recommend limiting this to 2* Since most Prototypes are treated as Dragons in the Graveyard, you can recycle them using cards like "Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon." Prototypes are NOT treated as Dragons in the deck, preventing them from being used for Future Fusion or cards that special summon other monsters from the deck (like masked dragon, if any of them would have met the requirement). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Iron and Copper you shouldn't have the same effects for them, maybe deviate them a bit more the same goes with Brass and Bronze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reginanos Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='krlsmnk' timestamp='1317862021' post='5563250'] So the whole idea here is to mesh Machines and Dragons for kind of a "Steampunk-Dragon" feel. The idea is that the Dragons magically infused their life force into a crippled machine (hence fusion and synchros). [u]I know they say to balance cards, and I'm sorry, but this is just ridiculous.[/u] _________________________________________________________________________________________ _ [img]http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/2751/68661.jpg[/img] You can discard this card to add one level 4 or lower Dragon or Machine-type monster from your deck to your hand. This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. *Recommended this card be limited to 2* [u]This is fine, but I wouldn't limit it.[/u] [img]http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2751/68661.jpg[/img] You can discard this card to add one level 5 or higher Dragon or Machine-type monster from your deck to your hand. This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. *Recommended this card be limited to 1* [u]Same with this guy.[/u] [img]http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2751/68661.jpg[/img] 1 Machine-type tuner + 1 non-tuner Dragon-type monster This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. [u]I don't see the point of this guy in here.[/u] [img]http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2751/68661.jpg[/img] 1 Machine-Type Tuner + 1 or more non-tuner Dragon-type monster(s) This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. [u]When this card destroys a monster by battle: you can add 1 Level 4 or lower Machine type monster from your deck to your hand.[/u] [img]http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/5127/68661h.jpg[/img] 1 Machine-Type Monster + 1 Dragon-type monster This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. [u]When this card destroys a monster by battle: you can add 1 Level 4 or lower Dragon type monster from your deck to your hand.[/u] [img]http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/2751/68661.jpg[/img] 1 Machine-Type Monster + 2 Dragon-type monsters This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. [u]When this monster is Fusion Summoned: you can Special Summon 1 Prototype Dragon monster from your graveyard in face up Defense position.[/u] [img]http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2751/68661.jpg[/img] 1 Machine-Type Tuner + 1 or more non-tuner Dragon-type monster(s) This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. If this card battles a monster with more than 1500 ATK, you can banish 1 card in your hand to negate that monster's effect(s) and banish it. [img]http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2751/68661.jpg[/img] 1 Machine-Type Tuner + 1 or more non-tuner Dragon-type monster(s) This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. If this card battles a monster with 1500 or less ATK, banish it immediately with this card's effect (Damage Calculation is not applied). [img]http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9391/68661j.jpg[/img] This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned from the graveyard by banishing 2 Prototype Dragons from your graveyard, at least one of them being "Prototype Dragon - Gold" or "Prototype Dragon - Silver." This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. [img]http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8641/68661b.jpg[/img] 1 Machine or Dragon-type Tuner + Prototype Dragon - Platinum This card's type is also treated as Dragon while it is face up on the field and in the graveyard. This card is unaffected by card effects that do not specifically target Dragon or Machine-type monsters. [u]Instead, have this -While this monster is face up on the field, negate the effects of Spell, Trap, or Monster effects that target Prototype Dragon - DXL. Also, increase the stats of this guy, it takes a lot to get him out, make him worth it.[/u] [img]http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2751/68661.jpg[/img] Prototype Dragon monsters may be Special Summoned from the extra deck by banishing their required component cards in your graveyard. Once per turn, during your End Phase, if you discarded a card(s) this turn, you may send 1 Machine-type monster from your deck to your graveyard. [img]http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2751/68661.jpg[/img] Prototype Dragon monsters are unaffected by card effects controlled by your opponent, and cannot be destroyed by battle. Other field spells cannot be played or activated while this card is face-up on the field. [u]This seems a bit too powerful, that's probably why you had weaker effects. Personally, I'd limit this to 1.[/u] __________________________________________________________________________________________ Some things to note: Platinum can ONLY be summoned from the graveyard, and by its own effect... but it's level 8, so use Trade-In. Science and Magic has to be destroyed or banished by a card effect, you cannot simply play a field spell over top of it. *Would recommend limiting it to 2* Prototype Manufacturing does not allow you to discard, it merely activates when you DO discard. You must use other cards to gain full use of its second effect. *recommend limiting this to 2* Since most Prototypes are treated as Dragons in the Graveyard, you can recycle them using cards like "Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon." Prototypes are NOT treated as Dragons in the deck, preventing them from being used for Future Fusion or cards that special summon other monsters from the deck (like masked dragon, if any of them would have met the requirement). [/quote] On a last note, I think this needs a lot more support, then it would look like a very good and usable archetype. Everything I think should be changed is underlined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlsmnk Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 The Reason I would keep Science and Magic at 2 is because MST easily cripples it, as does heavy storm. You need at least 1 replacement. MKII needs to be limited to 1 or 2 because it's like being able to run 6 of any card like "Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon." There's so many choices and so many OP monsters you can get with this, it needs to be limited. Same for MKI, it's a lot like Reinforcement of the Army, but with less restrictions. I'll probably bump DXL up to 4000 or 4500... maybe 5. I'm leaving its effect as-is. If I changed it to your idea, it would protect other cards, extending its power. It's current effect makes it, and it only, immune to cards like Gravity Bind and Level Limit Area - B because they don't specifically target. Because there are no requirements to Special Summon DXL, you can use Monster Reborn, Call of the Haunted, or Red-Eyes Darkness Metal to recycle it from the graveyard. With Prototype Manufacturing he's fairly easy to get on the field. I like the additions to Brass, Bronze, and Copper. I had originally decided that I would make them all Synchros and just make them different levels, that way as long as you had the tuner and a non-tuner, you could make a Prototype and prepare your graveyard for Platinum. Iron is a level 4 Synchro with 2200 defense, he's more of a blocker than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superandre34 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 still, i think brass should have some playability while on the field. He shouldnt be fodder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlsmnk Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 New support cards for Prototype Archetype: ___________________________________________________________________________________________ [img]http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2751/68661.jpg[/img] If this face-down card would be destroyed, you may activate it to negate the effect that would have destroyed it. Then, you can Special Summon as many Prototype monsters as possible from your Graveyard in face-up attack position. When this card is destroyed, banish all monsters Special Summoned by this effect. [img]http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2751/68661.jpg[/img] When this card is Normal Summoned, take control of 1 monster your opponent controls until the End Phase. It cannot declare an attack or be Tributed. It cannot be used as Synchro Material if this card is used as a Tuner this turn. [img]http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2751/68661.jpg[/img] Once per turn, you can equip this card to a Prototype monster you control as an Equip Card OR Special Summon it to your side of the field. A monster equipped with this card is unaffected by cards that do not specifically designate it as a target. If the equipped monster would be destroyed, you can destroy this card instead. [img]http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/1711/68661u.jpg[/img] You can send 1 card from the top of your Deck to the Graveyard to Special Summon this card from your hand or Graveyard. Each player may only use the effect of "Prototype Micro Adjuster" once per duel. [img]http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/2751/68661.jpg[/img] You may pay 500 Life Points to Special Summon this card from your hand. You may pay 2000 Life Points to Special Summon this card from your Graveyard. Each player may only use these effects once each. [img]http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2751/68661.jpg[/img] You can discard 1 card from you hand to Special Summon this card from your hand. [img]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2751/68661.jpg[/img] You can discard one card (except this card) to Special Summon this card from your hand. This card cannot be used for Synchro Material, except for the Synchro Summon of a Machine-type monster. [img]http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2751/68661.jpg[/img] You can discard this card to add one level 4 or lower Prototype monster from your Graveyard to your hand. [img]http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1152/68661m.jpg[/img] 2 Tuner Monsters When this card is Synchro Summoned, draw 1 card. If this card is used for the Synchro Summon of a non-Prototype Monster, send 2 cards from the top of your deck to the Graveyard, then banish 2 cards in your Graveyard. [img]http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2751/68661.jpg[/img] Discard 2 cards, then select 1 Prototype monster you control. Until the End Phase of this turn, that monster cannot be destroyed by battle, you take no battle damage from battles involving that monster, it is unaffected by card effects, and any monster that battles it is destroyed after Damage Calculation. [img]http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2751/68661.jpg[/img] Discard 2 cards, then select 1 Prototype monster you control. Until the End Phase of this turn, that monster can attack your opponent's Life Points directly, is unaffected by card affects, and if it inflicts battle damage, your opponent must send 1 monster they control to the Graveyard. [img]http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2751/68661.jpg[/img] Activate only when a card effect would destroy a Prototype card you control. Negate the effect and Special Summon 1 Prototype monster from your deck in Attack Position. It's effect is negated while it is face-up on the field. _________________________________________________________________________________________ Things to note: An loop can be created with 2 Prototype Craftsman and Prototype Manufacturing (from the original list). You would need 2 Craftsman, 1 to be in Grave and the other in hand. You can now feed your Grave and thin your deck by discarding craftsman, triggering Manufacturing's secondary effect. Many of the monsters may be Special Summoned by discarding, which would trigger Prototype Manufacturing's secondary effect. This Archetype will do well as long as you maintain draw power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 for Just a little more time you need restrictions on the special summoned monsters in this way Steam Drone's effect is virtually the same as The Tricky, might want to change that up a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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