Zextra Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 [center][center]Here's another Single I made as a test for this template.[/center][/center] [center][center]Anyway, please rate and comment. Thanks! [img]http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8576/falcondragonica.png[/img][/center][/center] [center][center]Lore:[/center][/center] [center][center]2 Level 8 monsters[/center][/center] [center][center]The Xyz Summon of this card cannot be negated. When this card is Xyz Summoned: Destroy 1 card on the field. Once per turn: You can Tribute 1 Dragon-Type monster you control; this card gains 1 additional attack this turn. While you control another Dragon-Type monster: This card cannot be destroyed by your opponent’s Spell and Trap Cards. When this card destroys a monster by battle: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; return 1 card your opponent controls to its owner’s hand.[/center][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceLife Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 i really don't like 8 stars xyz monsters because it's hard to summon them, but many card can destroy or remove them from the field easily like brionac, trishula, prison,... so it will be nice if this card cannot be targeted or destroyed by card effect, and its ATK maybe little more... What about 2900? But i like the art, and its effect as well 9.6/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 [quote name='IceLife' timestamp='1318751471' post='5582869']i really don't like 8 stars xyz monsters [b]Rank 8s.[/b] because it's hard to summon them, [b]Not for Disaster Dragons, which this card is obviously meant for.[/b] but many card can destroy or remove them from the field easily like brionac, trishula, prison,... [/b]Being able to be countered does not make a card any worse or any more balanced. The same things that counter this card counter many other things, because that's what they're meant for.[/b] so it will be nice if this card cannot be targeted or destroyed by card effect, and its ATK maybe little more... What about 2900? [b]2600 is a little low, but 2900 gets to be a little high. I'd recommend 2700. Also, preventing this add from being targeted and destroyed would make it fairly broken.[/b] But i like the art, and its effect as well 9.6/10 [/quote] The card itself is actually very good. It's powerful, while still being balanced, but a little underwhelming. Though I like that it's truly generic, unlike Thunder-End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zextra Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 @ IceLife - Thanks for your comment. As Dash said, the card was designed for use with Disaster Dragons, which spams Level 8s really easily. @ Dash - Thanks for explaining my point; Also, I changed its ATK to 2700. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceLife Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 [quote name='Rainbow Dash' timestamp='1318752257' post='5582877'] The card itself is actually very good. It's powerful, while still being balanced, but a little underwhelming. Though I like that it's truly generic, unlike Thunder-End. [/quote] Oh yeah, i forgot about Disaster Dragons. But I wonder ... how can you make XYZ monster card? i didn't see it on the website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zextra Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 [quote name='IceLife' timestamp='1318754126' post='5582891'] Oh yeah, i forgot about Disaster Dragons. But I wonder ... how can you make XYZ monster card? i didn't see it on the website [/quote] You have to use a template using either GIMP, Photoshop, or MSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zextra Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetie Belle Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Let's see... Seems a little overpowered to me, since a lot of Level 8's are easy to get out. Maybe give him some kind of drawback when he has no materials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zextra Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [quote name='Discord' timestamp='1318813368' post='5582982'] Let's see... Seems a little overpowered to me, since a lot of Level 8's are easy to get out. Maybe give him some kind of drawback when he has no materials? [/quote] Really? Hm, I'll think about it. I tried to make this worth its Summoning Conditions (which are going to come from REDMD most of the time); if I gave it a drawback, would it still be usable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 only part to change is the additional atk change so that if the 2nd attack is a direct one it can only do half the damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyNarkotiks Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 That card is awesome! Love the art, love the effect! I see only effects from effect monsters can destroy it or destroy it by battle, which usually happens. As long as it has at least 2 ways of destroying it, I pass it as valid. 9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varionius Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Very nice, and the template, too. Seems pretty balanced, the relatively low ATK is balanced by the spell/trap effect, support for dragon-types, but not only as support. 10/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gReFuSiTo Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Oww, I like it so much >.< and it seems to be well equilibrated in all senses, effect, atk, def, rank, etc. 9.8/10 =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zextra Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Thanks for the comments, everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I feel like there are too many effects unrelated to this card's material for it to not be OPed. It has 2 great effects: an attack booster and a defensive mechanic, that make it virtually indestructible. Unaffected by all spells and Traps, can attack twice, and, if you're feeling it, just bounce an opponent's card. I feel like it's a bit too much. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have it, but it's a bit too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Bloody broken. Easy to get out, and once you do it's herpderp I've won, just revive the tribbed monster with REDMD. Tone it waaaaay down- give it some actual drawbacks, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zextra Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Thanks for your input - Now I'm getting two conflicting viewpoints to deal with... I could easily just replace "Tribute" with banish to prevent REDMD spamming, but if I get rid of the S/T protection, I dunno if this would be worth summoning; It can only bounce twice, and that's only if it's destroyed a monster, meaning its attack has to be successful. I could also bump the ATK back down to 2600. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 [quote name='Zextra' timestamp='1318908684' post='5585822'] Thanks for your input - Now I'm getting two conflicting viewpoints to deal with... I could easily just replace "Tribute" with banish to prevent REDMD spamming, but if I get rid of the S/T protection, I dunno if this would be worth summoning; It can only bounce twice, and that's only if it's destroyed a monster, meaning its attack has to be successful. I could also bump the ATK back down to 2600. [/quote] Zex, once you summon it it has 2 awesome effects that can be spammed because REDMD can SS it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zextra Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 [quote name='AggroDrago' timestamp='1318908766' post='5585827'] Zex, once you summon it it has 2 awesome effects that can be spammed because REDMD can SS it. [/quote] Even if REDMD Special Summons it, it won't have any Xyz Materials to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 [quote name='Zextra' timestamp='1318909089' post='5585842'] Even if REDMD Special Summons it, it won't have any Xyz Materials to work with. [/quote] So it can't bounce one card. It can still Attack with 3000 (twice if u have more cards) and be indestructable w/ REDMD there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zextra Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Fine, I'll change it to "cannot be targeted" by Spell and Trap cards...and its ATK isn't 3000... So far, the nerfing includes: • 2700 -> 2600 ATK • Tributing a monster for the double ATK -> banishing • Immunity to destruction by S/T -> Immunity to being targeted My main problem with doing that, though, is that it would essentially become a worse version of White Night Dragon, and nobody even uses that...so isn't that too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetie Belle Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Try adding "While this card has no Xyz Materials: negate the effects of this card" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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