♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 [center]No Description[/center] [center][hr][/center] [center][IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/kxg0g.jpg[/IMG][/center] [center][i][size=2]2 Level 3 Monsters[/size][/i][/center] [center][i][size=2]Once per turn: You can Detach 1 Xyz Material from this card to activate 1 of the following effects; ●Target up to 3 of your Banished monsters with the same name; Return 1 to your hand, 1 to your Deck and/or 1 to your Graveyard. ●Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower “Tragedy” monster from your Deck and send 1 other “Tragedy” monster from your Deck to the Graveyard.[/size][/i][/center] [Spoiler=Dangerous Situation] [img]http://i42.tinypic.com/2lzyvt.jpg[/img] [size=2][i]Discard 1 Spell Card; Banish 1 face-up "Tragedy" monster you control. You can Banish this card in your Graveyard; Send 1 "Tragedy" monster from your Deck to the Graveyard (This effect cannot be used during the turn this card is activated).[/spoiler][/i][/size] [left][spoiler=Tragedy Zeffar] [img]http://i39.tinypic.com/vpc1ur.jpg[/img] [size=2][i]When this card is Banished: You can pay 500 Life Points; Banish 1 face-up monster you control. You can Banish 1 "Tragedy Zeffar" from your Deck to Special Summon this card from your Graveyard.[/i][/size][/left] [i][/spoiler][/i] [spoiler=Tragedy Cheshire] [img]http://i44.tinypic.com/25akbc2.jpg[/img] [i][size=2]If this face-up card is Banished: You can discard 1 card from your hand; Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Banished “Tragedy” monster. You can Banish 1 “Tragedy Cheshire” from your Deck to Special Summon this card from your Graveyard.[/size][/i] [i][size=2][/spoiler][/size][/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:bcoe Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][i]If this face-up card is Banished: You can discard 1 card from your hand; Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Banished “Tragedy” monster. You can Banish 1 “Tragedy Cheshire” from your Deck to Special Summon this card from your Graveyard.[/i][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Bit too versatile to be balanced imo. The second effect alone is really useful and could be used in any deck with foolish burial, also being able to ss from the Graveyard twice first turn is a bit much.[/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]the first effect, beasts have specific banish support you could prob abuse this with + "Fabled" beasts for the discard cost, being able to pick any lv4under + being able to select this card itself i think all together gives too many options. [/font][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 I would take out the recycling effect change it to you can special summon any lv4 or lower Tragedy monster except Cheshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Bump~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Hey LLD, you going to add more to this archetype soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 I think I'll add another card tomorrow. It'll be a spell / trap card though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 all right, we'll be looking forward to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 ~Bump Newest Card added: Dangerous Situation Last Card added: Tragedy Zeffar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 well with Zeffar it's not exactly as recycling of an effect as I hoped for still not quite sure what you plan to do with Dangerous situation though........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Zeffar is fuel as well as support. Tragedy is very Xyz oriented, Deck thinning oriented, and most trigger effects on Banishment so it fuels their effects whether the effects are "if" or "when". Situation is the same way although he fuels both effect triggering and graveyard/deck thinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted November 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 New Card Added: Tragedy Missiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 seems the 2nd effect is more useful for the summoning effect and all but then, we'll have to see the other tragedy monsters first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystalfeet Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Really great art on all your cards. 11/10 for art. 8/10 for effects. 9/10 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted November 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kale Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Okay, people are going to think i've came back simply to rate your cards. It's a coincidence, i promise. One that i hope you are enjoying as much as i am. =D Frist off, confusion on some effects. On Missiles (your Xyz, of course!) what's the purpose of the phrase "and/or"? Do you mean for that to be, send 1 each back to those three locations, OR send just 1 of the banished three to the graveyard? Leaving the rest in the banished zone? =/ That's the only thing i could think of, i'm confused. On kitty kitty (Cheshire) where do you summon your monster from? It just says to special summon a level 4 or lower, but not from where. It could be hand, graveyard, or deck with this archetype's affinity for pulling things from the deck. I'm not sure. Okee, next is how powerful i think each card is. The Xyz is a bit OPed. Two level 3 generic? That can be pulled off with Rabbit or Guide in a snap. Instantly you've got a 2000 ATK beater that's a summoner monk and a foolish with one detach, and both monsters can attack this turn. That's a little oped... Even if there aren't many high level Tragedy monsters yet, there very well could be. And this Xyz can pack a wallop with a ton of advantage. Immediately i can see: Summon Guide or Rabbit, pull out two level 3's somehow, summon this guy. Detach, send 1 Zeffar to the grave and summon a level 4, probably 1600+ ATK Tragedy monster that hasn't yet been released. Banish another Zeffar from your deck to Special summon this Zaffar from the graveyard. He'd miss the timing for his other effect, but you don't want to use it anyway. With one normal summon (off archetype, to boot!) you pulled out three monsters already. Besides, if you summon a level 3 out of your deck instead of an unnamed level 4, you could pull this into a loop. At this point you'd have a level 3 (kitty kitty, why not?) this Xyz, and Zeffar on the field. One Zeffar banished. Xyz with your two level 3's into another Missiles, detach a Zeffar, summon another Kitty Kitty and send something other than kitty kitty to the graveyard. Banish the third Zeffar from the deck (granted you have one) bounce your Zeffar to the field, Xyz again. And now you've got so much advantage even Karakuri decks would say "what the hell?" Anywho. I hope you haven't gotten upset with me calling Cheshire "kitty kitty"... it's cute. =] That's all. Anyway, the spell card is not oped at all. Kinda weak, actually. Discard a spell? that's a little too specific, i think. Especially if you are just banishing a monster. If i want to trigger my Tragedy monsters quicker i'd use Dark Core. It's a generic discard, banish ANY monster that's face up on the field, including your own. =] See? And that card's never been hit by any list, so... And the second effect can't be used this turn anyway, unless you send it to the graveyard with some other effect. =/ I just don't like the consistency this card doesn't provide. It's a little weak, imo. I love Zeffar. Perfect how he is. =D I already described ways to abuse him, but he's still balanced. And if he gets banished for some other reason, you could banish something else. Not sure why you'd want to do that yet, but i'm sure that's coming with more support. Cheshire: I can't really rate on it's power until i know where it summons from. But so far, looks like regular support. It's alright. =] Alrighty, now the set as a whole. The mechanic doesn't trigger their 'banish' effects because they miss the timing when they summon themselves from the graveyard. That's good, it's like playing two different strategies whenever you want. I like that. This set leads for great aggro. I mean, with the combo i just pulled out of no where i set up the field with 3 2000 ATK hitters. It could possibly be more depending on the other 5 cards in the hand at this point. Remember, all that stuff was done with one summon. So... supreme field and hand advantage with that combo. But a lot of the set involves discard and banish from field and stuff. If you try to play the cards with any other strategy your hand advantage is shot almost instantly, and with the lack of superior 'banish' effects, cards like Zeffar have no real reason to activate. Yet. So what do i think of this? Truly, at this moment, 8/10. Overwhelming power from the Xyz, underwhelming spell, decent monsters, pretty average overall. But the potential is phenomenal. -kale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 [quote name='Kale' timestamp='1320961618' post='5631388'] Okay, people are going to think i've came back simply to rate your cards. It's a coincidence, i promise. One that i hope you are enjoying as much as i am. =D Frist off, confusion on some effects. On Missiles (your Xyz, of course!) what's the purpose of the phrase "and/or"? Do you mean for that to be, send 1 each back to those three locations, OR send just 1 of the banished three to the graveyard? Leaving the rest in the banished zone? =/ That's the only thing i could think of, i'm confused. [color=#000000][b]Hmm, for this I was trying to find a way to phrase it properly so that it wouldn't be so confusing. I can see why it is confusing though lol. I meant it to be interchangable depending on how many cards you choose. It says "up to 3" right? So the "and" part would imply that, if you chose 3, it would be 1 to hand 1 to Deck AND 1 to Graveyard. The "or" part was to imply that if you selected 1, it would be either to Graveyard, Deck, or Hand. And if you chose 2 it would be 1 to hand (or Deck or Graveyard) and 1 to Deck (or hand or Graveyard). I couldn't think of any other way to word it lol.[/b][/color] On kitty kitty (Cheshire) where do you summon your monster from? It just says to special summon a level 4 or lower, but not from where. It could be hand, graveyard, or deck with this archetype's affinity for pulling things from the deck. I'm not sure. [color=#000000][b] (: It says "1 of your Banished" so It would be from your Banished pile.[/b][/color] Okee, next is how powerful i think each card is. The Xyz is a bit OPed. Two level 3 generic? That can be pulled off with Rabbit or Guide in a snap. Instantly you've got a 2000 ATK beater that's a summoner monk and a foolish with one detach, and both monsters can attack this turn. That's a little oped... Even if there aren't many high level Tragedy monsters yet, there very well could be. And this Xyz can pack a wallop with a ton of advantage. Immediately i can see: Summon Guide or Rabbit, pull out two level 3's somehow, summon this guy. Detach, send 1 Zeffar to the grave and summon a level 4, probably 1600+ ATK Tragedy monster that hasn't yet been released. Banish another Zeffar from your deck to Special summon this Zaffar from the graveyard. He'd miss the timing for his other effect, but you don't want to use it anyway. With one normal summon (off archetype, to boot!) you pulled out three monsters already. Besides, if you summon a level 3 out of your deck instead of an unnamed level 4, you could pull this into a loop. At this point you'd have a level 3 (kitty kitty, why not?) this Xyz, and Zeffar on the field. One Zeffar banished. Xyz with your two level 3's into another Missiles, detach a Zeffar, summon another Kitty Kitty and send something other than kitty kitty to the graveyard. Banish the third Zeffar from the deck (granted you have one) bounce your Zeffar to the field, Xyz again. And now you've got so much advantage even Karakuri decks would say "what the hell?" Anywho. I hope you haven't gotten upset with me calling Cheshire "kitty kitty"... it's cute. =] That's all. [color=#000000][b]xD Lol I love it (:. See I knew that basically this archetype would be hella broken. Especially with Synchros and Xyz. When their dumped to the Graveyard they can SS themselves again by Banishing one of itself from the deck. Yes it requires almost always a multiple of itself, using up Deck space, but it's extremely easy to loop their effects and quickly pull 2 or 3 Xyz's. Number 17 and Leviar or whatever would love this deck. Their also great Deck thinners on top of that. Insanely powerful. But I didn't notice the loop Missile makes. I would suggest making it Level 4 but that still opens for the Rabbit variable. Any suggestions on changes for Missiles?[/b][/color] Anyway, the spell card is not oped at all. Kinda weak, actually. Discard a spell? that's a little too specific, i think. Especially if you are just banishing a monster. If i want to trigger my Tragedy monsters quicker i'd use Dark Core. It's a generic discard, banish ANY monster that's face up on the field, including your own. =] See? And that card's never been hit by any list, so... And the second effect can't be used this turn anyway, unless you send it to the graveyard with some other effect. =/ I just don't like the consistency this card doesn't provide. It's a little weak, imo. [b]Yea >< I figured they were so whacked out already I didn't want to allow them to form a loop from the spell card by discarding any Tragedy monsters. I'll edit that (: )[/b] I love Zeffar. Perfect how he is. =D I already described ways to abuse him, but he's still balanced. And if he gets banished for some other reason, you could banish something else. Not sure why you'd want to do that yet, but i'm sure that's coming with more support. Cheshire: I can't really rate on it's power until i know where it summons from. But so far, looks like regular support. It's alright. =] Alrighty, now the set as a whole. The mechanic doesn't trigger their 'banish' effects because they miss the timing when they summon themselves from the graveyard. That's good, it's like playing two different strategies whenever you want. I like that. This set leads for great aggro. I mean, with the combo i just pulled out of no where i set up the field with 3 2000 ATK hitters. It could possibly be more depending on the other 5 cards in the hand at this point. Remember, all that stuff was done with one summon. So... supreme field and hand advantage with that combo. But a lot of the set involves discard and banish from field and stuff. If you try to play the cards with any other strategy your hand advantage is shot almost instantly, and with the lack of superior 'banish' effects, cards like Zeffar have no real reason to activate. Yet. So what do i think of this? Truly, at this moment, 8/10. Overwhelming power from the Xyz, underwhelming spell, decent monsters, pretty average overall. But the potential is phenomenal. -kale. [/quote] (: Thank you!!! Lol I have another card coming up soon. His effect doesn't really fit the flow of the current cards but reveal an intention behind the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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