groniack Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 I really like WIND monsters. Therefore I tried to make my own WIND Winged Beast archetype. I hope you like it [spoiler=Tuners][spoiler=Longplume-Tucan The North Wind][img]http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/917/294078l.jpg[/img] Once per duel, if this card is in your Graveyard , you can tribute 1 face up "Longplume" monster you control (except Longplume-Tucan The North Wind) and Special Summon this card. If this card is tributed by a card's effect ; Inflict 600 damage to your opponent's Life Points.[/spoiler] [spoiler=Longplume-Parrot The Fighting Spirit][img]http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/356/294078.jpg[/img] Once per turn, you can tribute 1 monster you control and destroy 1 Spell or Trap Card on the field. When this card is tributed by a card's effect ; You can send 1 "Longplume" monster from your Deck to the Graveyard.[/spoiler] [spoiler=Longplume-Spearbird The Light Of Dawn][img]http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8662/294078q.jpg[/img] When your opponent selects a Face-Up "Longplume" monster you control as an attack target; You can tribute that monster; Special Summon this card (from your hand) and negate the attack. If this card is tributed by a card's effect; You can send 1 Spell or Trap Card on the field to the Graveyard.[/spoiler][/spoiler] [spoiler=Monsters][spoiler=Longplume-Vulture The Desert's Sound][img]http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4462/294078j.jpg[/img] You can Special Summon this card from your hand by tributing 1 "Longplume" monster on your side of the field (except Longplume-Vulture The Desert's Sound). When a "Longplume" monster is Special Summoned to your side of the field (except "Longplume-Vulture The Desert's Sound") you can banish 1 card in either player's Graveyard. Once per turn, if this card is tributed by a card's effect ; You can Special Summon this card in face-up Defense Position to your side of the field with its effects negated.[/spoiler] [spoiler=Longplume-Cyberwing The Feeling Of Calmness][img]http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/356/294078.jpg[/img] When a "Longplume" monster on your side of the field is tributed by a card's effect ; You can Special Summon this card from your hand. If you control another Winged Beast monster ; This card inflicts Piercing Battle Damage. If this card is tributed by a card's effect ; You can add 1 Level 4 or lower "Longplume" monster from your Graveyard to your hand.[/spoiler] [spoiler=Longplume-Eagle The Sea's Nightmare][img]http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/2536/294078w.jpg[/img] When a "Longplume" Synchro Monster is successfully Synchro Summoned; You can Special Summon this card from your hand. If Special Summoned this way; You can destroy 1 set card on the field. If this card is tributed by a card's effect; You can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower "Longplume" monster from your Graveyard. It is destroyed during your End Phase.[/spoiler] [spoiler=Longplume-Arctic Bird The Tornado] [img]http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8711/294078y.jpg[/img] When this card destroys a monster by battle; You can tribute this card and Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower "Longplume" monster from your Graveyard (except "Longplume-Arctic Bird The Tornado"). If this card is tributed by a card's effect other than its own effect; You can decrease the ATK of a Face-Up monster your opponent controls by 800.[/spoiler] [spoiler=Longplume-Eagle The Prideful Lancer] [img]http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5638/294078o.jpg[/img] When this card is Normal Summoned; You can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower "Longplume" monster from your hand. Once per turn, you can tribute 1 "Longplume" monster you control and destroy a monster on your opponent's side of the field whose Defense is lower than the tributed monster's ATK. When this card is tributed by a card's effect; You can banish 1 Level 4 or lower "Longplume" monster from your Graveyard. Special Summon that monster during your next Standby Phase with its effects negated. It is destroyed during the End Phase.[/spoiler][/spoiler] [spoiler=Synchros][spoiler=Longplume-Dragon The Golden Light][img]http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8711/294078y.jpg[/img] 1 "Longplume" Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner Winged Beast type monsters. When this card is successfully Synchro Summoned, you can Special Summon 1 "Longplume" monster from your Graveyard. If this card would be destroyed by a card's effect ; You can tribute 1 "Longplume" monster you control and negate this card's destruction.[/spoiler] [spoiler=Longplume-Rainbow Bird The Master Of Colours][img]http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/4400/294078n.jpg[/img] 1 "Longplume" Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner Winged Beast type monster(s) This card cannot be Special Summon except by Synchro Summon. Once per turn; You can tribute 1 "Longplume" monster you control and add 1 WIND monster from your Deck to your hand. When a monster you control is tributed by a card's effect other than this card's effect ; You can Change the battle position of a monster your opponent controls.[/spoiler] [spoiler=Longplume-Priest The Beast Soul] [img]http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4462/294078j.jpg[/img] 1 "Longplume" Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner Winged Beast type monster(s) This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Synchro Summon. Once per turn; You can tribute 1 "Longplume" monster you control and gain 300 Life Points for its Level and inflict damage to your opponent equal to 200 x its Level. Once per turn ,when a "Longplume" monster you control is tributed by a card's effect (except by the effect of "Longplume-Priest The Beast Soul") ; You can draw 1 card.[/spoiler][/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:bcoe Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Swarm and tribute each other seems to be the general theme. good pics too. [i]Once per turn, if this card is in your Graveyard , you can tribute 1 face up "Longplume" monster you control to Special Summon this card. If this card is tributed by a card's effect ; Inflict 600 damage to your opponent's Life Points.[/i] [b]nice effect, helps the rest, although i would limit the Special Summon to once per duel, otherwise you could get loops and have an endless supply of a 2 star tuner. Also i'd limit the second effect tribute cost to either Monster Card or specifically "Longplume" monster.[/b] [i]Once per turn, you can tribute 1 card you control to destroy 1 card on the field. When this card is tributed by a card's effect ; You can send 1 monster from your Deck to the Graveyard.[/i] [b]This is pretty broken, limit the tribute and limit what you can destroy. Limit the second part to when its tributed by another "Longplume" effect, you can send 1 "Longplume" etc.[/b] [i]You can Special Summon this card from your hand by tributing 1 "Longplume" monster on your side of the field (except Longplume-Vulture The Desert's Sound). When this card is Summoned , you can banish 1 Spell or Trap Card in your Graveyard to add 1 Level 4 or lower "Longplume" monster from your Deck to your hand. Once per turn, if this card is tributed by a card's effect ; You can Special Summon this card to your side of the field with its effects negated.[/i] [b]Having to banish 1 Spell/Trap isn't much of a cost, again overall with this cards effect limit the cost, and say that you can't add Longplume-Vulture The Desert's Sound to your hand from deck.[/b] [i]1 "Longplume" Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner Winged Beast type monsters. Once per turn you can tribute 1 monster you control to Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower "Longplume" monster from your Graveyard. If this card would be destroyed by a card's effect ; You can tribute 1 "Longplume" monster you control to negate this card's destruction.[/i] [b]Again limit cost and reward. Don't have it once per turn, its too much, maybe just when its summoned.[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 personally for Vulture I don't see the need to negate its effects permanently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kocrow17 Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Once per turn, if this card is in your Graveyard , you can tribute 1 face up "Longplume" monster you control to Special Summon this card. If this card is tributed by a card's effect ; Inflict 600 damage to your opponent's Life Points.[/spoiler] [b]There's an infinite loop here. Having 1 Tucan in your grave and 1 on the field guarantees an infinite amount of Special Summons. This is simply fixed by [i]"you can tribute 1 face up "Longplume" monster (except "Tucan - The North Wind")..."[/i] [/b] Once per turn, you can tribute 1 card you control to destroy 1 card on the field. When this card is tributed by a card's effect ; You can send 1 monster from your Deck to the Graveyard. [i][b]When this card is Normal Summoned, you can send 1 Winged Beast-Type monster from your deck to your Graveyard. Once per turn, you can tribute 1 Winged Beast-Type monster to destroy 1 Spell or Trap card your opponent controls.[/b][/i] This would help balance it and exclusively support winged beasts. [i]You can Special Summon this card from your hand by tributing 1 "Longplume" [b]you control[/b]. When this card is [b]Normal Summoned[/b], you can add 1 Level 4 or lower "Longplume" monster from your Deck to your hand. [/i] [b]It's search-ability is too grand. You tribute a Longplume to SS this card from your hand, fetch any Longplume Tuner from your deck, and NS it for an instant synchro. Not to mention it could SS itself with its own effect. I think these changes work good. It either lets you SS it for synchro material or NS it for free search. [/b][b]The last effect seems a little too overpowered with all of your card "tributing" each other, so I suggest removing it.[/b] [i]1 "Longplume" Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner Winged Beast type monsters. [b]When this card is Synchro Summoned, you can Special Summon 1 "Longplume" monster from your hand, deck or Graveyard.[/b] If this card would be destroyed by a card's effect ; You can tribute 1 "Longplume" monster you control to negate this card's destruction.[/i] If you limit the first effect occurrence to just when it's Synchro Summoned, you can not only increase its range but also let it search out another copy of itself from your grave without it being unbalanced. I'd also bump its ATK to 2500. I hope this helps! ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groniack Posted October 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 For Tucan I wanted to say that you can't tribute another Tucan. I forgot it. My bad. Do you really think that it is necessary to limit its special summoning effect to once per duel? For Parrot now that i look at it again it seems pretty broken lol. I will change it to when it is tributed by a card's effect you can send 1 Longplume monster from your Deck to your Graveyard and that it can tribute 1 monster you control to destroy 1 spell or trap card on the field. As for vulture , i think that i will completly change its second effect Now for the synchro i will change its first effect to when it is synchro summoned you can special summon 1 level 4 or lower longplume monster from your Graveyard. Would they be okay with these changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:bcoe Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 [quote name='groniack' timestamp='1319727672' post='5602977'] For Tucan I wanted to say that you can't tribute another Tucan. I forgot it. My bad. Do you really think that it is necessary to limit its special summoning effect to once per duel? For Parrot now that i look at it again it seems pretty broken lol. I will change it to when it is tributed by a card's effect you can send 1 Longplume monster from your Deck to your Graveyard and that it can tribute 1 monster you control to destroy 1 spell or trap card on the field. As for vulture , i think that i will completly change its second effect Now for the synchro i will change its first effect to when it is synchro summoned you can special summon 1 level 4 or lower longplume monster from your Graveyard. Would they be okay with these changes? [/quote] i think so, being able to ss from the graveyard, and a tuner at that, that easily is too abusable. i'd (maybe) limit the effect to be activated by only another "Longplume" monster tributing it. i'd get rid of the second part, its just too easy, and could combo with the others to do too much damage really easy with little cost. Either effect alone on a card from an archtype that benefits from being tributed makes each effect alone good enough to be an individual card. The first ones good, the second broken. - synchro should be good with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kocrow17 Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 I still think you shouldn't limit your Synchro to just reviving a level 4 or lower longplume. Just let it Special Summon any Longplume in your grave. That way Dragon the Golden Light is stronger late game if you already have a copy of it in the Graveyard. The second one's effect won't trigger because it's being Special Summoned not Synchro Summoned, thus its keeping itself as a balanced card while supporting you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groniack Posted October 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 hmmm thanks for your advice. I guess I will have them fixed by tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groniack Posted October 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 I fixed the cards I hope they are better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 will you add more to the archtype soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groniack Posted October 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1319748312' post='5603415'] will you add more to the archtype soon? [/quote] Yes, I will Longplume-Cyberwing The Feeling Of Calmness added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 for Calmness everything is fine, though 1 thing you should change the last effect for adding a lv4 or lower Longplume to your hand, you should have said except for another Calmness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groniack Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1319782179' post='5604376'] for Calmness everything is fine, though 1 thing you should change the last effect for adding a lv4 or lower Longplume to your hand, you should have said except for another Calmness [/quote] Is it necessary to change it to that? Grand Master of The Six Samurai can add himself to your hand when it is destroyed by a card's effect. So i think i will keep it as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groniack Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Longplume-Rainbow Bird The Master Of Colours added. I hope you like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 the battle position changing effect is meh you should have added an effect like when all the monsters on the field are in the same battle position you can destroy some of them or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groniack Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1319839523' post='5605022'] the battle position changing effect is meh you should have added an effect like when all the monsters on the field are in the same battle position you can destroy some of them or something [/quote] I thought that if I added a powerful effect it would have been Overpowered since my monsters already take advantage from being tributed. But I will take your suggestion under consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:bcoe Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 [i]1 "Longplume" Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner[/i] [i]This card cannot be Special Summon except by Synchro Summon. Once per turn; You can tribute 1 monster you control to add 1 WIND monster from your Deck to your hand. When a monster on you control is tributed by a card's effect other than this card's effect ; You can Change the battle position of a monster your opponent controls.[/i] I'd add "Winged Beast" non-Tuner in the summoning conditions and limit the search to level 4 or under or limit the tribute to "Longplume" monsters. Also i'd reduce Atk and Def, they're very high for a level 7 Synchro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groniack Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 ok i will reduce attack and defense and i will add a winged beast non-tuner as you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 [quote name='groniack' timestamp='1319839876' post='5605031'] I thought that if I added a powerful effect it would have been Overpowered since my monsters already take advantage from being tributed. But I will take your suggestion under consideration. [/quote] well just changing battle position alone doesn't seem powerful enough for synchros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadoeh Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 lol Howd you make the tab thingies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 what tab thingies are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groniack Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 [quote name='Shadoeh' timestamp='1319841661' post='5605080'] lol Howd you make the tab thingies? [/quote] Do you mean the hide and show ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groniack Posted October 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Added a new non-tuner monster Longplume-Eagle The Sea's Nightmare. I hope you like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 for Sea's Nightmare, don't really see the point of halving the stats of the lv4 or lower summoned monster since it's going to get destroyed anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groniack Posted October 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 ok , I will change it to that. Thanks for your advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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