Cobax Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [img]http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3087/456365g.jpg[/img]it took me a while to find a picture for this card so. This card cannot be special summon. You must tribute 3 monsters to normal summon this card(you cannot set this card). This card cannot be targeted by the effects of any card(s). This card cannot be banish. Once per turn. By paying 2000 of your life points. banish all cards on the field, graveyard and both players hand. if you do, you cannot conduct your battle phase or activate this effect for 2 of your turns. [img]http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1760/456365k.jpg[/img] the reason why i add a second version is because the original effect(not that version on top) is Over power just by inflict damage and increase its ATK for each cards banish by its effect. but please don't comment that makes me feel bad. just want to know what do u think or do i need a little change to make a little more powerful or make it a little fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 ancient dragon isn't a real type, just say dragon it's not TOO hard to normal summon this the 2000 LP pay to nuke everything on the field is less effective than Chaos Emperor Dragon Envoy of the End, at least that one burned your opponent too not to mention it wasn't bound was no battle phase for 2 turns later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobax Posted December 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 ok i will agree the type Ancient-dragon is not a type, but what effect should i do to make it a little more powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 well drop the 2000 LP pay to 1500 add in a burn component start from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobax Posted December 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 how much damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 let's see what you come up with first, then we'll look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobax Posted December 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 ok i think the choice are 200 damage for each card banish by this effect or maybe 100 damage for each cards banish by this effect but if these ideas are not good enough well i need time to think it over then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 100 should be enough, otherwise at 200, well remember this is the WHOLE field, not just your opponent's Chaos Emperor Dragon Envoy of the End did 300, but that was too powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobax Posted December 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 ok 100 damage it is thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 just so you know the pic is also VERY overused................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobax Posted December 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 sorry i just need to find a decent picture to use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 it's all right you can try deviant art for other pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobax Posted December 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 if you find anything good, you know what to do........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobax Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 yes i do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 although you plan to add more to this thread here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groniack Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Don't make this card more Oped. Since it can't be banished it banishes only the other cards in either players hand and field. This is very oped. Chaos Emperor Dragon destroyed himself as well so this is a more overpowered version. I can't think of a good cost for this. The only way to fix it is by removing the part that it cannot be banished. But this way it would have been unplayable . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobax Posted December 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='groniack' timestamp='1323284107' post='5693390'] Don't make this card more Oped. Since it can't be banished it banishes only the other cards in either players hand and field. This is very oped. Chaos Emperor Dragon destroyed himself as well so this is a more overpowered version. I can't think of a good cost for this. The only way to fix it is by removing the part that it cannot be banished. But this way it would have been unplayable . [/quote] what about the effects of demise king of Armageddon, his effect says "pay 2000 and destroy all cards except this". but the last time i did made Ancient dragon of Chaos and Destruction the first time his effect said, "once per turn banish all cards except this from both players hand, field, and graveyard and inflict 300 and increase the ATK and Def of this card by 200 for each card banish by this effect."but other people did said it is over power cuz of it increasing ATK for each cards banish by its effect so i have to come up with another idea for to be a powerful but fair monster so this version here is a little bit fair then the old one. also The ancient dragons such as, Ancient dragon of peace, Ancient dragon of chaos and destruction and Ancient Demon Dragon king are like the next three powerful monster for the story i wanted to make as a fan story later on. but there is other cards that can destroy them like dark hole or use skill drain, divine wrath or other cards that can negate or that can destroy all cards, just think up combos that can defeat them. beside which they can't be special summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groniack Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 There is a difference between banish and destroy. By banishing all cards on the field, hand and graveyard you completely ruin your opponent's strategies. King of armagedon only destroys cards on the field and he is a ritual monster. your opponent cannot deal with the card you made unless he draws something very powerful or negate its summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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