Mr. guy Posted December 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 wrong A/D lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 well either way I gave my review for it above that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. guy Posted December 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Silvertongue as in good at convincing people of things. Tokens are included as they are indeed monsters, and you will see that in the support cards. I do agree the return condition is kinda wonky as an effect. I'll think about either simplifying it or removing it altogether. Valor SheilderThe image could be better, but I think it best embodies my ideal, at least the sheild does anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 well this is a little like Big Shield Guardna where once attack goes into atk position though for yours its just as easy to get into atk position and 2000 def isn't as effective thus with regards to negating the attack you probably won't get much of a chance to do much of it anyway I would raise its atk slightly higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. guy Posted December 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I find this card to be very useful, seeing as it effectively locks the opponent down from attacking if they have 2 monsters and this is the only valor you have. Valor suppressorArt by Thunderrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 ah, the man with the minigun, about time the biggest problem is the last drawback that you can't summon AT ALL if your opponent has less monster than you is just too much since this would include EVERY possible type of summoning, and that just makes this card way too UPed in that drawback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. guy Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Cannot normal summon? I feel this is appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 yeah that makes it better since special summoning is still abundant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. guy Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Image by KillerBe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 well 1900 atk is only enough to hold up against most lv4s nowadays, 900 atk isn't even enough against many lv2 monsters, so it's a bit on the weak end the 2nd part of the effect seems a bit too recyclable I guess it balances since it only works with returning to your hand and all that, but still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. guy Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 It's really a novelty at best. You could base a strategy around it I guess. But yeah, nice basic 1900 ATK valor.This one's by PointlineArea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 that one the effects are a bit small to read please write it out first and then I'll rate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. guy Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Valor MonkWhen this card is summoned, banish the top cards of your deck equal to the amount of monsters your opponent has more than you. When you have no monsters on the field, special summon all level 4 or lower "valor" monsters among the picked up cards, and put the rest into your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 thank you now, with regards to the effect, the milling effect I guess is ok for the 2nd part, the special summoning could end up being a little bit too much you may need to give restrictions for the special summoned monsters in this fashion now yes you can argue the Valor monsters will already have drawbacks because you most likely will control more monsters than your opponent but that's why you'd just use them for synchro food Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. guy Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Well, at most it is four cards (Monk being only monster and opn. having 5) Usually you'll get the effect as 2 (opn. has 3 and you have 1 or 4 and you have 2.) And even then you'll have to banish level 4 or lower valors, and nothing else will get ss. I can't see it being worse than Enchanted fitting room, except you do draw the cards that aren't lv 4 or lower valors.Remember, you only get to draw and ss when you have no monsters on the field, which usually means that your opponent has advantage. This is designed to counteract that advantage. This requires further study. Oh, and where it says "picked up" it should be "banished". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. guy Posted December 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 The big guy's here. Valor Paladin!\Art by Six-Winged-Angel Along with the conjurerMade by GodLEeEeeeEEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 all right, start with Paladin The LP gain isn't really much, 500 barely does anything. Monster destruction effect is good, but the problem is you said so that they control the same number as you afterwards this makes it too situational for Conjuer, you forgot the level of the token the going to face up atk position effect should be good though, don't really see anything wrong with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. guy Posted December 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 New PaladinNew conjurer (2600?! what was I thinking?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. guy Posted December 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Support card time! This marks the end of the monsters. These three cards make sense to be posted together.Art by nanyaArt by ColourBrandArt by Truthmessenger79 lolspace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. guy Posted December 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Bump?I would upload more but I don't ahve time now Here, have a premonition.Call to actionTrap cardReturn one "Valor" monster you control to the deck to special summon a level 6 or lower "Valor" monster from your hand. Actually it's going to be a spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 outmanned seems meh for the token summoning reminds me too much of scapegoat, plus I thought tokens cannot be used for xyz food anyway outgunned is just block attack with a little skill drain mixed in, little more outclassed isn't really much either, 1000 atk gain for 1 turn is pretty generic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. guy Posted December 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Just to clarify, outgunned targets your monsters, not your opponent's monsters. It targets the "attack target" not the "attacking monster" By Kozivara Image by nagatuki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. guy Posted December 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Image by aozorize Image byDarkMatteria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 well Call to Action and Call to Duty are fine the way the are Spirit of Valor is meh for just effect siphoning, nothing more same goes with With you in Spirit although that one might get OPed if the equipped monster gets its effects IN ADDITION to the effects it already has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. guy Posted December 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Yes, in addition:3It's really the best thing valor has got going for it, although remember, they also retain the negative effects as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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