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I own this deck 100% irl, and I think that it runs pretty well. But in all honesty, I almost never use the Synchros because my timing is terrible and I lack the tuners in my hand most of the time, but that's not the case because I'm not a big fan of them at all. Also, I know there's a lot of cards in this deck, but trust me, it runs faster than you'd think.

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Please tell me what you think. ^,^

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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1324704827' post='5726666']
I think you recently purchased one of the Warrior Starter Decks and dont have much of a cardpool otherwise.

I also think you should trim down to 40.
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Actually I bought the Starter like 2 years ago and I've been building off of it ever since.

Any yeah I know I need to trim it down, but I think with the way that I structured it, 50 cards seems to suffice.

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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1324705292' post='5726679']
Remove both Gilfords, Fairy of the Spring, both Ghost Gardnas, Total Defense Shogun, [b]Gift of the Martyr[/b], Freed the Matchless General, [b]Swift Gaia[/b], and something else. That should drop it to 40. Improvements can proceed from there.
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There are somethings in that list I could probably take out (that I'll bold). But nevertheless, it's still pretty cut and dry,

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It's not that cut and dry.

First neg all of what evilfusion said without ANY objection. Just listen to him. There's no bolding or "probably" needed; just do as he says, because he's right and his advice makes it work better. Also, neg all of the Equips; they aren't needed.

The only real tournament level Warrior deck is Six Samurai, but they don't work like yours at all. Besides, they take some money.

Of course my first suggestion is to build an easier top-tier deck like Machina Gadgets, but if you want to keep on using pure warriors, I advice the Immortal Bushi deck (Got no idea why you weren't running it till now). Cheap and works if done right.

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Well, I remember a friend of mine using a Deck similar to this, and it worked quite well for him, and probably would be even better now, if he substituted Solidarity into the Deck.

The Deck still wouldn't be amazing, but it'd be strong for its level. But to even consider that type of strategy, the cards I mentioned would be removed because they're taking up space when they're not needed. The strategy I'd suggest for these cards is to use Level 4 or lower Warriors and boost their ATK with the Equips and Solidarity. Gilford the Lightning and the Legend both need 2 or 3 Tributes and you'd inflict far more damage by using the two monsters you'd Normally have Tributed for them. And if you dont have the Tributes, they're dead in the hand.

Total Defense is...interesting, but it doesn't do much on its own. It's a Level 6 monster. Freed's effect is too slow and your S/Ts will be far more important in the long run. Ghost Gardna is just a mediocre card that will be useless more often than not, even with its slight stall ability.

Fairy of the Spring is terrible as a recovery card, especially since you can't even use it that turn. Hidden Armory would be better in all respects.

And this are just for trimming options. I'm not even talking about subtituting cards yet.

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If you want to use Immortal Bushi (prob. only good Warrior-centered deck besides Sams), start with (not 40 cards yet, add your own elements):

18 to 20
3x Immortal Bushi
3x D.D. Warrior Lady
3x Armageddon Knight
2 or 3x Immortal Bushi
2 or 3x Koa'ki Meiru Bergzak or whatever it was called
3x Junk Warrior
2 or 3x Doppelwarrior

10
1x Monster Reborn
1x Dark Hole
1x Heavy Storm
1x Foolish Burial
1x Reinforcements of the Army
2x Mystical Space Typhoon
3x Solidarity

5
2x Solemn Warning
1x Solemn Judgment
1x Torrential Tribute
1x Trap Dustshoot

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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1324706459' post='5726715']
Well, I remember a friend of mine using a Deck similar to this, and it worked quite well for him, and probably would be even better now, if he substituted Solidarity into the Deck.

The Deck still wouldn't be amazing, but it'd be strong for its level. But to even consider that type of strategy, the cards I mentioned would be removed because they're taking up space when they're not needed. The strategy I'd suggest for these cards is to use Level 4 or lower Warriors and boost their ATK with the Equips and Solidarity. Gilford the Lightning and the Legend both need 2 or 3 Tributes and you'd inflict far more damage by using the two monsters you'd Normally have Tributed for them. And if you dont have the Tributes, they're dead in the hand.

Total Defense is...interesting, but it doesn't do much on its own. It's a Level 6 monster. Freed's effect is too slow and your S/Ts will be far more important in the long run. Ghost Gardna is just a mediocre card that will be useless more often than not, even with its slight stall ability.

Fairy of the Spring is terrible as a recovery card, especially since you can't even use it that turn. Hidden Armory would be better in all respects.

And this are just for trimming options. I'm not even talking about subtituting cards yet.
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Yeah, man. I actually totally get you. I originally used to have this whole deck as pure level 3 and 4 monsters and just power them up. Freed is slow, yes, but if I want a Ghost Gardna/Marauding Captain stall, then that makes it far much faster to do and then I can just amp up my monsters from there.

If it wasn't for equip cards or Solidarity, this deck would render completely useless. It's be more weak and more prone to being pummeled, that's why I run my equips.

Also, with my friend's influence, he got me to change a lot about my deck and told me to put more beaters in the deck (you can tell what they are) and it would be more smooth as the deck runs. It worked slightly better, but it's still equivalent in strength as it was before.

[quote name='Darkplant - FEAR' timestamp='1324706859' post='5726732']
If you want to use Immortal Bushi (prob. only good Warrior-centered deck besides Sams), start with (not 40 cards yet, add your own elements):

18 to 20
3x Immortal Bushi
3x D.D. Warrior Lady
3x Armageddon Knight
2 or 3x Immortal Bushi
2 or 3x Koa'ki Meiru Bergzak or whatever it was called
3x Junk Warrior
2 or 3x Doppelwarrior

10
1x Monster Reborn
1x Dark Hole
1x Heavy Storm
1x Foolish Burial
1x Reinforcements of the Army
2x Mystical Space Typhoon
3x Solidarity

5
2x Solemn Warning
1x Solemn Judgment
1x Torrential Tribute
1x Trap Dustshoot
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Dude... No. That's something completely different that what I'm running and completely irrelevant. For one, I hate using archetypes because it's limiting, and just, no. It's just irrelevant.

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I didn't say to remove the Equips. I said to remove the cards that are slow or inconsistent as a result of their higher Level, and the Spells that don't do enough.

As to your other comment about archetypes, some cards that are part of an archetype can be used in other Decks, because the support they give is generalized.

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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1324708775' post='5726768']
I didn't say to remove the Equips. I said to remove the cards that are slow or inconsistent as a result of their higher Level, and the Spells that don't do enough.

As to your other comment about archetypes, some cards that are part of an archetype can be used in other Decks, because the support they give is generalized.
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Oh, I see what you mean now. Yeah, I guess you're right.

I also what you're saying about archetypes, I used to have a couple E-Heroes in this deck, but it slowed it down quite a bit. But the comment Darkplant had said was just irrelevant to my deck and I just wanted to point that out.

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[quote name='Finding The Everlight' timestamp='1324712619' post='5726792']
Yeah, I'll consider. But in honesty, I really Solemn Judgement, the cost is a little too extreme. I probably wouldn't use that though.
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I used to think so too. Like, 3 years ago or something.

But many cards nowadays win games on its own if played at the right timing (Dark Hole, Torrential Tribute, Black Rose Dragon, Black Luster Soldier, Evolzar Laggia, Master Hyperion, etc). If you can't stop them you lose, and Life Points stop mattering at all.

Which would you want to lose - half your Life Points, or all of it? In all honesty that's the important question here.

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Solemn Judgment's cost becomes less important the later in the Duel it is, and it takes a bit of skill and experience to know that you should use it at a crucial time, and not the first possible time.

Have you made any changes yet? The screenshot is the same and you dont have a written decklist, so it's unsure where we're standing at this point.

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