~Wright~ Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 Total (40) [u]Monsters (17)[/u] Tri-Horned Dragon x3 Cosmo Queen x3 Blue Eyes White Dragon x3 Rabidragon x3 Gogiga Gagagigo x3 Montage Dragon x1 Black Luster Soldier Envoy of the Beginning x1 [u]Spells (17)[/u] Heavy Storm x1 Dark Hole x1 Monster Reborn x1 Lightning Vortex x1 Ancient Rules x3 Heart of the Underdog x3 Trade-In x3 Swing of Memories x2 Hand Destruction x2 [u]Traps (6)[/u] Torrential Tribute x1 Call of the Haunted x2 Birthright x3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 I'd add another Montage just to be safe... but only 13 monsters with Heart of the Underdog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Wright~ Posted January 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 [quote name='DJVD' timestamp='1325558105' post='5745571'] I'd add another Montage just to be safe... but only 13 monsters (12 Normal Monsters) with Heart of the Underdog? [/quote] Thank you for your criticism. It's greatly appreciated. I'm not sure another Montage is necessary. The main reason I have it included is that some of the time, I get stuck with a disproportionate amount of normal monsters in my hand, and have little to do with them. Since I run so few normal monsters, it's more often the case that I'm stuck needing one in my Graveyard or hand (particularly the Graveyard) than that I have too many in my hand. Frankly, I'm not even certain Montage is necessary, since I so infrequently get surpluses of normal monsters. The reason I run so few monsters is because I usually only need 1 or 2 in my hand, (so I can dump them with trade-in and common charity, or special summon them with ancient rules) and 1 or 2 in my Graveyard. You do have a point; with only 12 normal monsters, 3 Hearts of the Underdogs may not be necessary. But it is an incredible draw engine when it works (especially when there's 2 or 3 out at once) and usually I'm able to pull in at least one draw from each one. Would you recommend replacing one with a different card, and if so, which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dratinimew2 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 i would recommend a few low level monsters for support and some more trap cards that prevent your opponent from attacking e.g. Sakuretsu Armor or another Mirror Force. Other than that it is a pretty good deck. I rate it 9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 I'd add Spiral Serpent at 3 maybe 2. Hand Destruction can help too with filling your grave but I don't recommend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Wright~ Posted January 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1325576008' post='5746015'] I'd add Spiral Serpent at 3 maybe 2. Hand Destruction can help too with filling your grave but I don't recommend it. [/quote] I actually really like the idea of Hand Destruction, because it's a quick-play spell that can work in conjunction with Heart of the Underdog, (and doesn't miss the timing like common charity) and it dumps normal monsters in the grave. I'm not sure Spiral Serpent is necessary. I think I have a good balance of Normal Monsters, but I think I will dump Montage Dragon. -1 Foolish Burial -1 Montage Dragon +1 Hand Destruction +1 Gogiga Gagagigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 [quote name='dratinimew2' timestamp='1325573888' post='5745974'] i would recommend a few low level monsters for support and some more trap cards that prevent your opponent from attacking e.g. [b]Sakuretsu Armor or another Mirror Force.[/b] Other than that it is a pretty good deck. I rate it 9/10 [/quote] LOL OT: -1 Montage -1 Foolish -1 Lightning Vortex -1 Mirror Force +1 BLS +3 Skill Drain Iffy on Ancient Rules, how's it working for you? (If it isn't, rather go for Dualities.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Wright~ Posted January 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 [quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1325632486' post='5746922'] LOL OT: -1 Montage -1 Foolish -1 Lightning Vortex -1 Mirror Force +1 BLS +3 Skill Drain Iffy on Ancient Rules, how's it working for you? (If it isn't, rather go for Dualities.) [/quote] My main problem with that is then there's no mechanism for getting normals in the graveyard (with the exception of trade-in), which is the basis of the whole deck. That, and Envoy of the Beginning would likely eliminate any graveyard I already had. Ancient Rules is an absolute necessity. Also, I don't think Duality is a good idea, since it stops special summoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Keep montage dragon. He's your ace card. As for dumping. Maybe Dark World Dealings? Pot of duality works too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecha Love Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1325706897' post='5748067'] Keep montage dragon. He's your ace card. As for dumping. Maybe Dark World Dealings? Pot of duality works too. [/quote] Don't keep it. It's an awful card O_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 [quote name='Thunder End Dragon' timestamp='1325707041' post='5748070'] Don't keep it. It's an awful card O_O [/quote]it gives an easy 7200 attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1325707097' post='5748072'] it gives an easy 7200 attack. [/quote] That uses up too many of your cards and dies too easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1325707261' post='5748075'] That uses up too many of your cards and dies too easily. [/quote]those cards can be revived and it doesn't die easily if you do a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Why isn't Uria.dek meta then? It can get up to like 79000 ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1325707594' post='5748081'] Why isn't Uria.dek meta then? It can get up to like 79000 ATK. [/quote]No one is going to dump that many cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1325707928' post='5748086'] No one is going to dump that many cards. [/quote] No-one's gonna dump 3 cards from their hand. It's a -3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1325708121' post='5748091'] No-one's gonna dump 3 cards from their hand. It's a -3. [/quote]Increase the draw amount and you won't have to worry about that now will you? Heart of the Underdog, Hand Destruction, and Dark World Dealings, as well as Pot of Duality increase your draw power with Heart Of the Underdog's help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1325708564' post='5748102'] Increase the draw amount and you won't have to worry about that now will you? Heart of the Underdog, Hand Destruction, and Dark World Dealings, as well as Pot of Duality increase your draw power with Heart Of the Underdog's help. [/quote] When does Dark World Dealings increase the amount of cards in your hand? Or Duality, for that matter. Only thing that helps here is Heart of the Underdog. And that's bad if you're only using it for Montage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1325708706' post='5748105'] When does Dark World Dealings increase the amount of cards in your hand? Or Duality, for that matter. Only thing that helps here is Heart of the Underdog. And that's bad if you're only using it for Montage. [/quote]With dark world dealings you have the chance of drawing another monster to activate Underdog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1325709170' post='5748126'] With dark world dealings you have the chance of drawing another monster to activate Underdog. [/quote] And then you realize: 1. It's not your Draw Phase 2. You discard a card afterwards so HotU would miss timing anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 [quote name='Twilight Sparkle' timestamp='1325709247' post='5748131'] And then you realize: 1. It's not your Draw Phase 2. You discard a card afterwards so HotU would miss timing anyway [/quote]Doesn't have to be your draw phase to activate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1325709392' post='5748136'] Doesn't have to be your draw phase to activate. [/quote] [img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081218230428/yugioh/images/thumb/a/ae/HeartoftheUnderdogDR2-EN-C-UE.jpg/300px-HeartoftheUnderdogDR2-EN-C-UE.jpg[/img] First 4 words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1325709392' post='5748136'] Doesn't have to be your draw phase to activate. [/quote] It still misses timing :S And, yes, it does: [img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081218230428/yugioh/images/thumb/a/ae/HeartoftheUnderdogDR2-EN-C-UE.jpg/300px-HeartoftheUnderdogDR2-EN-C-UE.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Hi Cursed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 [quote name='Twilight Sparkle' timestamp='1325709528' post='5748144'] Hi Cursed! [/quote] ninja was ninja-ish A little research always helps, guise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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