WWECENA Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 btw guys this is not the card i was talking about in my mind reader post but i couldn't help my self seeing this card and not making this card looool i was actually looking for my next card photo and i found this one so i made this monster but still i will post another card that one i was talking about it's trap card and it's gonna be a good one anyway tell me what you think about this card [img]http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/7444/104134.jpg[/img] effect: 3 Dragon-Type monsters + 1 Fire monster This monster cannot be Special Summoned except by Fusion Summon. This card cannot attack your opponent's Life Point directly. Once per turn you can discard 3 cards from your hand, this card can attack 3 times this turn. When this card is destroyed and send to the Graveyard, you can remove 1 of the Fusion Material Monster from your Graveyard to Special Summon this card during the End Phase (ignoring the summoning conditions). quick note ( i'm not sure if someone already did this card with the same name or not but if someone did plz tell me so i can delete this post ) thanx oh and one more thing about this card effect should i keep the last effect or not and should i make a cost for attack 3 time or not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101100111000 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 The first and last effect contradict each other. You write that you can only Fusion Summon this card, no SSing of any kind, yet you can SS it from your Graveyard? I suggest you write "This monster cannot be Special Summoned except by Fusion Summon or its own effect." Or something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanPark24 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 The discarding cost is pointless. You already paid enough for the darn thing with the Fusion Summon, and the fact that it can't attack directly is enough restriction as is. Also, it's last effect is negated by itself. You already stated it cannot be Special Summoned except by Fusion Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 change Fire to FIRE (remember it's an attribute) attacking 3 times per turn, ok that is just plain broken and OPed you can argue Berserk Dragon lets you attack even more if your opponent has the monsters on the field for it, but it can't attack your opponent directly if you use that effect yours can, and this makes it too easy OTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 sorry forgot to write [size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]ignoring the summoning conditions[/font] loool [/size] [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1327875286' post='5788352'] change Fire to FIRE (remember it's an attribute) attacking 3 times per turn, ok that is just plain broken and OPed you can argue Berserk Dragon lets you attack even more if your opponent has the monsters on the field for it, but it can't attack your opponent directly if you use that effect yours can, and this makes it too easy OTK [/quote] dude my monster can't attack directly =_= what are you talking about ? and beside attacking 3 time is op then what do you think about chimeratech overdragon i can attack 20 time if i got 20 monster on the field and with ATK 10k or more lool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 [quote name='JordanPark24' timestamp='1327873709' post='5788284'] The discarding cost is pointless. You already paid enough for the darn thing with the Fusion Summon, and the fact that it can't attack directly is enough restriction as is. [/quote] Pretty much this. Nobody loses hand advantage for attacks unless it's either an OTK or you can abuse the cards you discarded. To top it off making it discard 3 and only 3 makes it worse, at least discard up to 2 and give it an extra attack for each discard. And let it attack directly for christ's sake! There's no abuse for attacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1327969365' post='5790306'] Pretty much this. Nobody loses hand advantage for attacks unless it's either an OTK or you can abuse the cards you discarded. To top it off making it discard 3 and only 3 makes it worse, at least discard up to 2 and give it an extra attack for each discard. And let it attack directly for christ's sake! There's no abuse for attacking. [/quote] oh no i can't make him attack directly it's gonna be 1 turn ok and gonna be op and beside i said [size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Once per turn you can discard 3 cards [/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]this card can attack 3 times you don't have to discard unless your opponent got 3 monster or more on his field what i'm saying is if you opponent got 1 monster there is no need to make him attack 3 time he can't attack directly [/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Ok, let me resay that. [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101020014358/yugioh/images/thumb/c/cd/TridentDragionRGBT-EN-UR-1E.jpg/300px-TridentDragionRGBT-EN-UR-1E.jpg[/img] >Easier to summon >Can attack up to 3 times with less of a cost >Is an OTK >Isn't broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1327972298' post='5790450'] Ok, let me resay that. [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101020014358/yugioh/images/thumb/c/cd/TridentDragionRGBT-EN-UR-1E.jpg/300px-TridentDragionRGBT-EN-UR-1E.jpg[/img] >Easier to summon >Can attack up to 3 times with less of a cost >Is an OTK >Isn't broken [/quote] you got [size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]chimeratech overdragon[/font][/size] [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]easy to summon[/font] [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]can attack up to 20 time with no cost [/font] [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]it can attack with 10k ATK[/font] [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]it can 1 turn ok[/font] [font="tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif"]compere this to my monster [/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Alda Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 [i][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]This monster cannot be Special Summoned except by Fusion Summon [b]or its own effect[/b]. This card cannot attack your opponent's Life Points directly. Once per turn, you can discard 3 cards from your hand; [b]if you do,[/b] this card can attack 3 times this turn. When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard, you can [b]banish[/b] 1 of the Fusion Material Monsters from your Graveyard to Special Summon this card during the End Phase (ignoring the summoning conditions).[/size][/font][/color][/i] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Aside from the OCG fixes (I didn't fix the actual effect), I agree with everyone else; this card is hamstrung by excessive costs and restrictions. If I have to use 4 whole monsters to summon this thing, I had better get some pretty damn serious firepower. [/size][/font][/color][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Sure, I could just offer "Hinotama Soul", "Lesser Dragon", "Petit Dragon", and "Baby Dragon" to summon this thing, but who in their right mind would do that? Even if I use a stupid strategy like that,[/size][/font][/color][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3] 3500 ATK with no direct attacks isn't serious firepower. And if I need extra attacks, I have to discard 3--and specifically 3--cards to get 3--and specifically 3--extra attacks. If my opponent has 2 monsters and I destroy both of them with my first 2 attacks, my third attack--given this thing's lack of direct attacks--will be wasted. -3 hand advantage for a few extra attacks, one of which may be worthless, is not worth it.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]There's nothing wrong with making a really powerful monster--it just needs realistic costs to prevent it from being abusable. When there's cries of a card being "broken", it's usually because either:[/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]A: the card's benefits outweigh its costs to the point where it's overpowered[/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]B: the card has so many costs that it's worthless.[/size][/font][/color] [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#5a5a5a][size=3]C: it's just so weird and situational that nobody really knows what to do with it.[/size][/color][/font] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Yours is in category B, and it is (in my opinion) probably the easiest to fix: just reduce the costs. Most of the other posters have good ideas for fixing it. Maybe add a burn effect; it is FIRE, after all. FIRE b****es love burn. It isn't [i]too[/i] bad a card (the name is kind of unoriginal, but that's just my opinion), but its stupid costs make it more trouble than it's worth.[/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1328003956' post='5791504'] you got [size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]chimeratech overdragon[/font][/size] [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]easy to summon[/font] [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]can attack up to 20 time with no cost [/font] [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]it can attack with 10k ATK[/font] [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]it can 1 turn ok[/font] [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]compere this to my monster [/font] [/quote] Chimeratech doesn't have to ditch 3 cards to do that and is only an OTK because it goes up to massive attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328023843' post='5791655'] Chimeratech doesn't have to ditch 3 cards to do that and is only an OTK because it goes up to massive attack. [/quote] so what you saying that i don't need to discard 3 card to attack 3 time but as i said before it's just an effect i can activate whenever i like i don't see anything wrong with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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