Agro Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1328580821' post='5801588'] SHI EN CANNOT NEGATE HORNET. PERIOD. Hornet is equipped by Dfly/Centi's effect, so it cannot be negated by Shi En. Furthermore, Shi En can only negate S/T upon their initial activation, and when Hornet sends itself it's not an initial activation in that sense. [/quote]No, I understand that, I was asking if that was how he cheated.And will ANYONE answer my other question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='Wraith' timestamp='1328589055' post='5801985'] No, I understand that, I was asking if that was how he cheated. And will ANYONE answer my other question? [/quote] He cheated by negating Hornet's destruction effect. I'm also pretty sure nobody's gonna know when Decks come in. They didn't even have coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328589106' post='5801987'] He cheated by negating Hornet's destruction effect. I'm also pretty sure nobody's gonna know when Decks come in. They didn't even have coverage. [/quote]1. If he negated the effect of Hornet, then that wouldn't have made too much of a difference, since D-Fly, right? 2. Thought as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathxy Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 i finished 150 with x-4, and faced the darkworld guy on the 3 vs 3, he finished 17 and told me something interesting: he faced the sams than won ycs in the top 32. the score was 1-1 and time was called in the third duel, so he asked about the 5 turn procedure and the judge said yes, proceed on the fifth turn the sam has more lp than the dark world, but dark world managed to reduce the sams lp to 0, suddenly the head judge appeared and asked what was happening, and he was told that this was the fifth turn and dark world defeated sams, then the head judge said that in this rounds, there was only 4 turns instead of 5, so everything on 5 turn was invalid and only checked what was the score on the 4th turn, so sams won meet joshua, he is crazy............, and wilson tsang is a really good friend, he gave me his presentation card, i gave him a dog shapped ballon made by myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='Wraith' timestamp='1328589286' post='5801991'] 1. If he negated the effect of Hornet, then that wouldn't have made too much of a difference, since D-Fly, right? 2. Thought as much. [/quote] It would've made plenty of difference because the Sam player would've lost his Shi En most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='deathxy' timestamp='1328629223' post='5802481'] i finished 150 with x-4, and faced the darkworld guy on the 3 vs 3, he finished 17 and told me something interesting: he faced the sams than won ycs in the top 32. the score was 1-1 and time was called in the third duel, so he asked about the 5 turn procedure and the judge said yes, proceed on the fifth turn the sam has more lp than the dark world, but dark world managed to reduce the sams lp to 0, suddenly the head judge appeared and asked what was happening, and he was told that this was the fifth turn and dark world defeated sams, then the head judge said that in this rounds, there was only 4 turns instead of 5, so everything on 5 turn was invalid and only checked what was the score on the 4th turn, so sams won [/quote] That's f***ing stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328629599' post='5802484'] It would've made plenty of difference because the Sam player would've lost his Shi En most likely. [/quote]But that's what I'm saying. Shi En would have been lost anyway since Dfly's effect still goes off since Hornet was sent while equipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='Wraith' timestamp='1328634325' post='5802531'] But that's what I'm saying. Shi En would have been lost anyway since Dfly's effect still goes off since Hornet was sent while equipped. [/quote] Yes but in the end they only get to destroy 1 card, or in the case of Nat Beast they couldn't destroy anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1328634658' post='5802538'] Yes but in the end they only get to destroy 1 card, or in the case of Nat Beast they couldn't destroy anything. [/quote]Well yeah, but was the guy using Shi En to do the dirty work, or Nat Beast? And Shi En would have been rid of that turn so next turn wouldn't it just be game over cause Inzektors would break through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='Wraith' timestamp='1328634814' post='5802542'] Well yeah, but was the guy using Shi En to do the dirty work, or Nat Beast? And Shi En would have been rid of that turn so next turn wouldn't it just be game over cause Inzektors would break through? [/quote] Both Nat Beast and Shi En were used. Also, if Inzektors would have just broke through, explain how Sams won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1328635051' post='5802547'] Both Nat Beast and Shi En were used. Also, if Inzektors would have just broke through, explain how Sams won. [/quote]That's what I was wondering. If it was just Shi En, then why didn't they? But if Nat Beast was involved, then it makes a whole lot more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 you guys don't understand what happened :/ Shi En I believe negated the activation of hornet not the activation of hornets effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='Welche' timestamp='1328635402' post='5802554'] you guys don't understand what happened :/ Shi En I believe negated the activation of hornet not the activation of hornets effect [/quote] So you mean it (technically) negated DFly's effect? If that's the case it's even more retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 I thought so. :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 This is what we know: [quote] [color=#BCBCBC][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][size=3]Josh says:[/size][/font][/color] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]I need to win 1 for fucks sakes...[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [color=#BCBCBC][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][size=3]Kye Baker says:[/size][/font][/color] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]lol[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [color=#BCBCBC][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][size=3]Josh says:[/size][/font][/color] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Like I'm so[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Sad[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]U have no idea[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]My soul feels pretty crushed.[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Oh well, try again in 2 weeks time...[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [color=#BCBCBC][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][size=3]Kye Baker says:[/size][/font][/color] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]So could shien/natbeast negate hornet at the event[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]or not?[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [color=#BCBCBC][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][size=3]Josh says:[/size][/font][/color] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]No just the guy cheats[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]We know him he goes to our locals.[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]He's socially awkward and cheats.[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Typical.[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [color=#BCBCBC][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][size=3]Kye Baker says:[/size][/font][/color] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Apparently judges ruled it like that a the event[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]but lol fair enough[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [color=#BCBCBC][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][size=3]Josh says:[/size][/font][/color] [color=#BCBCBC][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][indent=1][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Not true.[/font][/size][/font][/color][/indent] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='Wraith' timestamp='1328575923' post='5801198'] It's cause it was in Mexico. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted February 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VNIV7juaIyI#! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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