BFG Studios Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [spoiler=Girl of the Dragon's Eye] [img]http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3001/390021o.jpg[/img] Lore: [b]She may have been blinded at birth, but that does not stop her from joining in battle. She is guided by the soul of her recently deceased lifelong companion: her pet dragon. She now fights with what seems to be that of a dragon's strength.[/b] DARK / Level 8 / Psychic / ATK 2850 / DEF 1800 [b]NOTES: I know Psychic's have a green/silver background and usually represent machines... but i feel like changing that was necessary, and is another reason i made this card [/b] [/spoiler] [spoiler=Recovery Solace Dragon] [img]http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3671/390021g.jpg[/img] Lore: [b]This dragon's life has been saved by that of the rulers of dark magic. However, it has been altered by witchcraft, fused with other species' genes and extra elemental powers. Appearing to be a monstrosity of nature, is actually a dangerous foe.[/b] WIND / Level 5 / Winged Beast + Tuner / ATK 2300 / DEF 1350 [/spoiler] [spoiler=Sovereign Blood Sorcerer] [img]http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3671/390021g.jpg[/img] Lore: [b]Visualized as a prince and honorable leader when put into public; but, he is in fact a true bringer of death and destruction. Trained by his ancestors and having taken countless years to master, he easily tortures many of the opposing souls, captured during battle, with his blades and the blood drawn from their fallen allies.[/b] WATER / Level 7 / Spellcaster / ATK 2750 / DEF 1500 [/spoiler] I feel that vanillas, at times, can carry their own weight, and with these cards, it's even more so... the use of their stats is what counts, and just as any other vanilla made, their stories are for show, but are really interesting... for me, i take the story into affect of the card's stats, which is a unique personality (or so i hear) that i enjoy doing very much... even if it is for a card, i'll always like doing writing... but now im getting off topic, lol hope you enjoy the cards, and let me know what you think... thanks in advance and enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosta Matijević Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [sup] Nice i like last one the most.[/sup] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFG Studios Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='Kosta Matijević' timestamp='1328636092' post='5802572'] [sup]Nice i like last one the most.[/sup] [/quote]well, that was fast glad you like them ... im not saying its bad or anything, but next time, try to leave more detailed reasons (or just, in general, longer posts) on the topic you're replying at... it's usually better than just a few small words in a short reply lol... but thanks anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FateTheSeer Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 I love the first one, Psychic needs more strong monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosta Matijević Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='BFG Studios' timestamp='1328636353' post='5802579'] well, that was fast glad you like them ... im not saying its bad or anything, but next time, try to leave more detailed reasons (or just, in general, longer posts) on the topic you're replying at... it's usually better than just a few small words in a short reply lol... but thanks anyway [/quote] Well, they are normall monsters, so i cannot tell i love them for their effs or something like that. i thought they arent OP, pics are nice and thats it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFG Studios Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='FateTheSeer' timestamp='1328640212' post='5802676'] I love the first one, Psychic needs more strong monsters. [/quote]i agreed... plus bringing them out of their rut of having greed backgrounds and focused around machine-looking art... but yea, the fact that psychics need stronger cards is in there too [quote name='Kosta Matijević' timestamp='1328640653' post='5802682'] Well, they are normall monsters, so i cannot tell i love them for their effs or something like that. i thought they arent OP, pics are nice and thats it [/quote]lol, well thank you for all of your words XD ... yea, i know it can be hard to add into why you like/dislike a vanilla, mainly cuz there arent any effects... so i understand, and thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [quote name='BFG Studios' timestamp='1328636353' post='5802579'] well, that was fast glad you like them ... im not saying its bad or anything, but next time, try to leave more detailed reasons (or just, in general, longer posts) on the topic you're replying at... it's usually better than just a few small words in a short reply lol... but thanks anyway [/quote] there's nothing wrong with vanillas, so little of them around nowadays so it's good you brought back more shame there's no spell/trap support added for them here though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFG Studios Posted February 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1328643687' post='5802777'] there's nothing wrong with vanillas, so little of them around nowadays so it's good you brought back more shame there's no spell/trap support added for them here though [/quote]yea, the lack of spell/trap support is what i meant by 'carry their own weight', but i know what youre getting at... but i feel that it wont happen thanks though, since i too feel its nice to bring back vanillas (especially good ones)... ive always been a fan of making their stories too, which is another reason (sort of) why people use them... (then again, they are mostly used because of their ability to have a bit more powerful atk/def than effects) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd_griffin521 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Art gets a 10 Lore gets a 10 Vanilla with no purpose gets a 0 These guys have badass names and could/SHOULD have equally as badass of effects, or cards that support their story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFG Studios Posted February 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 [quote name='jd_griffin521' timestamp='1328702509' post='5804152'] Art gets a 10 Lore gets a 10 Vanilla with no purpose gets a 0 These guys have badass names and could/SHOULD have equally as badass of effects, or cards that support their story. [/quote]well, thanks a bunch... the art isnt mine, i get it from open sources... but the lore is what i write, and enjoy doing so... so im glad you like that too the purpose of vanillas is (usually) to have no purpose other than having a higher-ish atk/def... i feel that these cards could do well in battle... its been mentioned before, but im still unsure about making spell/trap support... so ill leave it at that for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Kay, sorry to interrupt all of these comments that say stuff about this being "nice" and stuff, but TBH 2 of these aren't the type of "appriciated Vanillas". Yeah, I know, you probably came back to this topic in hope of more positive replies and am sorta being annoyed at this comment that isn't that positive. Lot of guys did it to me several years ago, so I know how it feels, but believe me, they're a necesarry evil that you need to take in. Contrary to what rag said, Vanillas don't really need specific Spell/Trap support, mainly because most cards that support a specific card have a depressing tendency of sucking. And hard, too. These cards - such as Dark Magic Attack, Burst Stream of Destrution, etc - are mostly only for casual play, and nothing more. Besides, these aren't the cards you need to make. If you really want to make the best Vanillas out there that everyone will run, it needs something that isn't simply high ATK. The currently Top-Tier Vanillas are Sabersaurus and Kabazaulus, both key combo parts of the feared Rabbit Laggia deck. Photon Shockwave gave us Rescue Rabbit and Evolzar Laggia, the two cards that allowed Level 4 Dinosaur-Type Normal Monsters to rise up from the trash bins and fight in the best tournaments of the world. In this case, both cards were never designed to specifically support anything when they were created, but by a lucky chance they became godly Vanillas. [quote name='BFG Studios' timestamp='1328702779' post='5804156'] the purpose of vanillas is (usually) to have no purpose other than having a higher-ish atk/def... i feel that these cards could do well in battle... [/quote] This statement is false, as proved by the above examples. Sabersaurus and Kabazauls are good, but not because they have really high ATK/DEF, it's because they work with other cards. All you need to think when going to make good Vanillas is this - "What EXISTING cards can this have synergy with?" The one card of these three I said was good-designed was Recovery Solace Dragon, but you probably didn't design it to be support for the upcoming archetype, the Holy Marked Dragons. In any case you sucessfully created a good vanilla I'd say "nice" to, because - well, read the wikia page about them and you'll understand. In Recovery Solace's case, this card is a Dragon-Type Vanilla Monster that's also a Tuner. This alone makes it a very good option in Holy Marked Dragons, and thus fits the aforementioned formula of how to make a good Vanilla. The other 2 cards are, sadly, rather meh. This is because these cards may be different from existing Vanillas, but there's no reason to run them. Sadly there's not much psychic support out there, and making it Level 8 didn't help, given Cosmo Queen is better as a Level 8 DARK Vanlla. Blood Sorcerer is also meh, mainly because the only real card this can support is A Legendary Ocean, which has better targets such as Levia-Dragon Daedalus. So just keep the above formula in mind when making vanilals from now on. Thanks for reading. Hope I helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth the Sorceror Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 I like the psychic best.In fact I've always wondered at why their portrayed as machines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Honestly, I agree with Darkplant high ATK/DEF vanillas aren't the best vanillas, the best vanillas are stuff that could work with existing stuff. (THOSE are the competitive vanillas) But back to the point The first one is basically a Blue Eyes-level monster (2 tributes required), yet less ATK than a Blue Eyes, and much less DEF. The 3rd one is even WORSE than the first one, because 2 tributes, but even weaker The second, however, interests me a bit, because lvl 5 tuner. For a simple example of usefulness, tribute level eater for it, then ss level eater by eating one of its levels, and you get insta-catastor Much easier ways to get catastor, but if you MUST find a use for this card... >>;; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xi-3 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Something about the way you have the lore seems awkward too. I might be able to make some suggestions: "Blind from birth, she tenaciously accepts guidance and help from the spirit of her pet dragon." "Captured and manipulated by sorcery and science, this dragon draws from the ultimate amalgam of elements and the creatures that make up its new DNA." "In public, an honourable prince. In truth, a brutal and ruthless tyrant whose blood magic is as dangerous as his blades." Something like that. I don't use Tuners, so besides choosing Blue Eyes over Dragon's Eye I would probably also choose Chaos Command Magician (nevermind his effect, he's also stronger) over Solace Dragon, and I'd still stick with Dark Magician over Blood Sorcerer because there are so many other cards with which he works very well. In fact, when I dueled with a standard deck it was built around Dark Magician and Buster Blader (so basically Dark Paladin). If I wanted more power I'd bring out Silent Magician -- I didn't have many vanillas, and the ones I did have led to stronger effect monsters. So far you have not inspired me to include these three cards in my deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFG Studios Posted February 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 I- uhh... wow! im in such a shock as to all the ginormous amounts of feedback that has been given to me... i liked the posts that gave the greatest @Darkplant --- you're the one that did the most for me just now, so it's pretty obvious you deserve a like... and it's alright, i understand that people can do that, and at any moment... i KNEW these cards weren't gunna get all happy comments lol... i'm really glad you put feeling into your post too, and i really appreciate the "formula" for vanillas too... you've definitely helped a lot... keep it up, good person @Xi-3 --- at this point you seem like a great writer yourself, haha... but still, thanks for that, and thanks for your opinions thank you all so much... this is the exact kind of feedback ive been looking for... i had no idea it would apply to my vanilla cards though... thanks for ALL the info... i'll see what i can do as soon as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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