Jord200 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 All of these are terrible ideas Especially because good players run 1 Hunter lol I know. Its what I'm expecting Konami to do. Not what I want them to do. What I want is for the to Semi Limit Infernity Launcher, but we all know that will NEVER happen. Also, a friend of mine said that they read on Pojo that the people on there think that DSF is ging to get put at 2...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Yeah, this list is perfect in every way. A single Tsukuyomi is fine on its own, but when you have two of them out at once, that's just plain unacceptable. You could use the same logic to describe how Lonefire Blossom was put at 2 (Symbol of Heritage abuse) but the card is not by any means banworthy and far too consistent at 2. Thus it is at one. There are various other examples of this and your 3-0 logic is f***ing terrible. I know. Its what I'm expecting Konami to do. Not what I want them to do. What I want is for the to Semi Limit Infernity Launcher, but we all know that will NEVER happen. Why the f*** would they limit Hunter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plays4days Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 you can't have tsukuyomi at more than 1 because then you won't have enough solemns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Welche Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Good thing we have veilers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 But Tsuk returns to hand YOU KNOW WHAT f*** IT ALL TSUKUYOMI TO 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Welche Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 you cant negate that with veiler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plays4days Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 thats why you ban veiler :/ also, now that I think about it, more than 1 tsukuyomi would make it too consistent, which would make decks like anti-meta dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 You're retarded Gus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 You could use the same logic to describe how Lonefire Blossom was put at 2 (Symbol of Heritage abuse) but the card is not by any means banworthy and far too consistent at 2. Thus it is at one. There are various other examples of this and your 3-0 logic is f***ing terrible. Why the f*** would they limit Hunter? Why would they unban BLS?Why would they give DMoC multiple reprints but not unban it?Why would they not make good Numbers?Why would they make Zenmaight broken?Why would they break *insert archetype name here*?Why would they make Tengu and Tour Guide?Why would they make Gagaga Girl and Zenmaines Secret Rares?Why would they not release Duelist Pack Yuma in the TCG already so I can get Number 61? There's a lot of things that Konami has done that lack inteligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Welche Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I love you too Brandon. Now back to coming up with retarded ways to play volcanics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 We need to test Jesse and Gus let's make decks Why would they unban BLS?Why would they give DMoC multiple reprints but not unban it?Why would they not make good Numbers?Why would they make Zenmaight broken?Why would they break *insert archetype name here*?Why would they make Tengu and Tour Guide?Why would they make Gagaga Girl and Zenmaines Secret Rares?Why would they not release Duelist Pack Yuma in the TCG already so I can get Number 61? There's a lot of things that Konami has done that lack inteligence. Most of these are irrelevant. Especially the KDE decisions when the banlist is a KOJ decision. You need to learn about Konami's structure before making bad arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 You could use the same logic to describe how Lonefire Blossom was put at 2 (Symbol of Heritage abuse) Well, that seems like an excellent reeason not to bump Tsukuyomi above 1. After all, two copies of a monster that can't be Special Summoned are clearly dangerous with Symbol of Heritage around. The Symbol thing actually makes a lick of sense, at least how easy it is to recurse a card is a qualitative change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plays4days Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 unbanning BLS encouraged a format that extends to a late game, since you can't play it immediately until you have the set-up for it, and until you're sure you got rid of their warnings and s***. DMoC is a fan favorite, and was actually meta for a quite a while. Utopia is good, Black Mist is pretty good too. Zenmaighty is broken because it can be looped. calm your tits. Your definition of "break" is that they make the deck consistent/advantageous. Why would they keep printing s***? Tour Guide stimulated the xyz mechanic. Tengu offered a playstyle and mind-set that is somewhat new to the game. for the next 2 answers, because they are christians and know you've been touching yourself at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 There is, to some extent, logical reasoning for leaving a powerful card Limited. In doing so, it promotes skillful play by allowing the player to hold on to that card until necessary instead of being able to freely play it whenever and not care that it's your only one. All of the cards that I banned are exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Banlists should be constructed in a way that maximizes Konami's profits from the game and by extension their ability to promote it and increase its popularity. Luck is skill and skill is luck. That being said, what makes cards overpowered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Banlists should be constructed in a way that maximizes Konami's profits from the game. Luck is skill and skill is luck. That being said, what makes cards overpowered? This is a fanmade banlist for unofficial play. Profit is irrelevant. I don't have to f***ing define overpowered. Nobody's that dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Welche Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Two things can make a card overpowered. The first is a card that can single handedly change the game around without much prior setup. Examples are DAD, Gorz, CED, BLS. The other thing is a card that will consistently set up massive advantage for the player using them. An example is Tour Guide or Zenmaighty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Jesse and I are going to test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I don't have to f***ing define overpowered. Nobody's that dumb. "Overpowered" doesn't have a universal definition, let alone one that's obligatory knowledge for everyone who isn't "dumb". It's a matter of perspective that can vary from person to person. A card is only overpowered if its power is such that it's greater than would be good for the game. Failure to define what you consider "good for the game" leaves you with no f***ing reason whatsoever to have made this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 "Overpowered" doesn't have a universal definition to be known by everyone who isn't "dumb". It's a matter of perspective that can vary from person to person. A card is only overpowered if its power is such that it's greater than would be good for the game. Failure to define what you consider "good for the game" leaves you with no f***ing reason whatsoever to have made this thread. I'm not going to make a black and white definition of anything because then b****es call me out when I make a reasonable exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Then tailor your definition to include "reasonable exceptions". That or your list's no better than a proposition that we have Pot of Greed at 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Welche Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Making a black and white definition of overpowered fuels 3-0 logic which is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Making a black and white definition of overpowered fuels 3-0 logic which is bad.Not making a black and white definition means Chaos End Dragon is perfectly balanced and you can't argue.Just f*ck it all and ban everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 If it were a good definition it wouldn't fuel anything bad. Also what the post above me said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Welche Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Not making a definition implies that people are forced to work off what they find in testing and such making people think :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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