Ariel Tanuwijaya Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 hello YCM member's this is my first post after century of joining (yes its true how ironic '''') to note i was born and live in non-english based country (indonesia to be exact) so maybe i have some issue of OCG or communicate with other member on top of that this is my first post and card CnC with no harsh word please (i hope this posting process is going well) [attachment=34058:createcard.php.jpg] This card cannot be Special Summoned. when this card battle a monster switch this card ATK [only during your turn] or DEF [only during your opponent turn] with ATK/DEF of monster it(s) battle [whichever of the amount is highest] until the end of Damage step. this card and any opponent monster(s) that destroyed by battle with this card [while those monster in the graveyard] is unaffected by any card effect other than this card. effect of monster that destroyed by battle with this card is negate pic from deviant art and random google searching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partangle the Candle Jangler Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Sorry I just cannot make sense of the effect? I think you swap the ATk or DEF of this card with a monster it attacks and..........the destroyed monster's effects is negated? I don't really see why it needs to be level 10, but more importantly it's totally broken because it can kill literally any monster...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Tanuwijaya Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='TheGreatEnguin' timestamp='1329080350' post='5812927'] Sorry I just cannot make sense of the effect? I think you swap the ATk or DEF of this card with a monster it attacks and..........the destroyed monster's effects is negated? I don't really see why it needs to be level 10, but more importantly it's totally broken because it can kill literally any monster...... [/quote] wow, you SERIOUSLY think this is broken?... this is underpowered as hell.. 1) if it's in ATK, it's destroyed as well. 2) ever heard of effect destruction/banishment/returning to hand? Yeah.. 3) this can't be SS'd, so it needs 2 tributes. 2 TRIBUTES. Not many cards are worth the 2 tributes these days, if any. This is no exception. 4) It only negates one monster's effect, while it's a 2-tribute 0 ATK and DEF level 10 monster. Fiendish Chain says sup. yeah, ok, it's in the Graveyard, other cards negate effects in the graveyard more effectively I'm sure. 5) it can get rid of any monster? ONLY BY BATTLE. And so? Many cards can. Number 96: Dark Mist, The Wicked Avatar, which have similar ( I assume) effects, but those aren't OP'd in any case. OP, seriously, don't listen to these people. You actually need to fix your OCG and make it be able to be SS'd, and quite easily too. Only then it'd be any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frieza96 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 bad card cant understand it and have no real idea of what ud play it in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I have a very easy way to make this usable. Make it always switch the ATK, and never the DEF. Then, neg its "No SS" clause, and add a summoning condition that isn't too hard to complete (for instance, Banishing 1 A Legendary Ocean from your field or Graveyard). That makes a good card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partangle the Candle Jangler Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1329131899' post='5814400'] wow, you SERIOUSLY think this is broken?... this is underpowered as hell.. 1) if it's in ATK, it's destroyed as well. 2) ever heard of effect destruction/banishment/returning to hand? Yeah.. 3) this can't be SS'd, so it needs 2 tributes. 2 TRIBUTES. Not many cards are worth the 2 tributes these days, if any. This is no exception. 4) It only negates one monster's effect, while it's a 2-tribute 0 ATK and DEF level 10 monster. Fiendish Chain says sup. yeah, ok, it's in the Graveyard, other cards negate effects in the graveyard more effectively I'm sure. 5) it can get rid of any monster? ONLY BY BATTLE. And so? Many cards can. Number 96: Dark Mist, The Wicked Avatar, which have similar ( I assume) effects, but those aren't OP'd in any case. OP, seriously, don't listen to these people. You actually need to fix your OCG and make it be able to be SS'd, and quite easily too. Only then it'd be any good. [/quote] Oh great you're back. 1) As I said I couldn't understand the effect (?!) and was working off what I could understand. 2) That can happen to anything, that's a pointless argument to make. 3) That doesn't mean you can't very easily get 2 monsters on the field to tribute. *hint* Rescue Rabbit *hint* 4) Negates one monster [i]every time it's destroyed[/i], thus Sangan loses it's meaning for existing. 5) It was my understanding that battle was a fairly big part of YuGiOh since, y'know, every monster has ATK and DEF stats 'n' all. Also once again, saying something can be countered is a [color=#0000cd][size=6]BAD ARGUMENT.[/size][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='TheGreatEnguin' timestamp='1329160864' post='5814909'] Oh great you're back. 1) As I said I couldn't understand the effect (?!) and was working off what I could understand. 2) That can happen to anything, that's a pointless argument to make. 3) That doesn't mean you can't very easily get 2 monsters on the field to tribute. *hint* Rescue Rabbit *hint* 4) Negates one monster [i]every time it's destroyed[/i], thus Sangan loses it's meaning for existing. 5) It was my understanding that battle was a fairly big part of YuGiOh since, y'know, every monster has ATK and DEF stats 'n' all. Also once again, saying something can be countered is a [color=#0000cd][size=6]BAD ARGUMENT.[/size][/color] [/quote] > says the person who thinks this is broken /ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partangle the Candle Jangler Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Look write out the actual effect for me? I most certainly have no idea what it is but you seem to be blessed with the Godly power to understand the rare of language of Isitreallyenglish so tell me what this card says? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='TheGreatEnguin' timestamp='1329161743' post='5814931'] Look write out the actual effect for me? I most certainly have no idea what it is but you seem to be blessed with the Godly power to understand the rare of language of Isitreallyenglish so tell me what this card says? [/quote] >you have no idea what the effect is, so therefore = broken. Godly logic there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 [quote name='TheGreatEnguin' timestamp='1329160864' post='5814909'] 3) That doesn't mean you can't very easily get 2 monsters on the field to tribute. *hint* Rescue Rabbit *hint*[/quote] Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww you're not summoning Evolzars or Verz [quote name='TheGreatEnguin' timestamp='1329160864' post='5814909'] 4) Negates one monster [i]every time it's destroyed[/i], thus Sangan loses it's meaning for existing.[/quote] Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww you're not using it for Synchro fodder. [quote name='TheGreatEnguin' timestamp='1329160864' post='5814909'] 5) It was my understanding that battle was a fairly big part of YuGiOh since, y'know, every monster has ATK and DEF stats 'n' all. Also once again, saying something can be countered is a [color=#0000CD][size=6]BAD ARGUMENT.[/size][/color] [/quote] Nowadays effect destruction is more prominent than battle destruction. All of your argument is invalid and this card is not even slightly usable right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partangle the Candle Jangler Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 [quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1329216040' post='5816257'] Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww you're not summoning Evolzars or Verz Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww you're not using it for Synchro fodder. Nowadays effect destruction is more prominent than battle destruction. All of your argument is invalid and this card is not even slightly usable right now. [/quote] I love the way you ignored the first 2 points I made. Classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 [quote name='TheGreatEnguin' timestamp='1329257298' post='5816972'] I love the way you ignored the first 2 points I made. Classy. [/quote] because your first "point" is that you don't even understand the card's effect yet STILL continue on to ramble about how right you are. /ok [quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1329216040' post='5816257'] Nowadays effect destruction is more prominent than battle destruction. [/quote] there's the answer to your 2nd "point". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Tanuwijaya Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 woah 2 days since i leaving 0o0 Venom:well i still working for SS in separate card but i didn't intend to create this as part of "Umi"-user archetype its Exein archetype but anyway thank for comment [size=2]and...[/size] since my lack of language to clearly explain the effect (im truly sorry) here the effect and execution(effect in italic is written on ALL monster in the archetype) : [size=3][i]"when this card battle a monster switch this card ATK [only during your turn] or DEF [only during your opponent turn] with ATK/DEF of monster it(s) battle [whichever of the amount is highest] until the end of Damage step[/i]"[/size] means: it did swap the ATK or DEF whichever is highest (so if the battled monster ATK is higher then its DEF=swap the ATK,vice-versa) of monster battle with it (either attacking or being attacked) but it only swap its ATK of its controller turn and only swap its DEF in its controller[u] OPPONENT[/u] turn until the end of the damage step [size=3]"this card and any opponent monster(s) that destroyed by battle with this card [while those monster in the graveyard] is unaffected by any card effect other than this card"[/size] means: this card is unaffected by any card effect but also monster that destroyed by battle with this card become unaffected by any card effect except this card (you may tried to active "call of the haunted" and target 1 of your monster that destroyed by battle with this card but at the end the targeted monster cannot be SS since become [u]unaffected[/u] by card effect other than this card [size=3]"effect of monster that destroyed by battle with this card is negate"[/size] im quite sure you all know this effect means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaratuir Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 [quote name='TheGreatEnguin' timestamp='1329080350' post='5812927'] Sorry I just cannot make sense of the effect? I think you swap the ATk or DEF of this card with a monster it attacks and..........the destroyed monster's effects is negated? I don't really see why it needs to be level 10, but more importantly it's totally broken because it can kill literally any monster...... [/quote] It's a slightly stronger version of Wicked Avatar. I like it because Catastor can easily kill it and it's not searchable by Mother Grizzly because it can't be special summoned, so you don't have to worry about what's basically a turn one drop. Unless I'm misreading your intended wording, as far as OCG goes, I'd word it something like this: This card cannot be special summoned. When this card battles an opponent's attack position monster, switch this card's ATK with the opponent's monster's ATK until the end of the damage step. When this card battles an opponent's defense position monster, switch this card's ATK with the opponent's monster's DEF until the end of the damage step. The effects of monsters your opponent controls that this card destroys by battle are negated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Tanuwijaya Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 zaratuir: ah thank you for your version of OCG fixing but in other time you return,see this card true effect : [size=3][i]when this card battle a monster switch this card ATK [only during your turn] or DEF [only during your opponent turn] with ATK/DEF of monster it(s) battle [whichever of the amount is highest] until the end of Damage step[/i]"[/size] means: it did swap the ATK or DEF whichever is highest (so if the battled monster ATK is higher then its DEF=swap the ATK,vice-versa) of monster battle with it (either attacking or being attacked) but it only swap its ATK of its controller turn and only swap its DEF in its controller[u] OPPONENT[/u] turn until the end of the damage step [size=3]"this card and any opponent monster(s) that destroyed by battle with this card [while those monster in the graveyard] is unaffected by any card effect other than this card"[/size] means: this card is unaffected by any card effect but also monster that destroyed by battle with this card become unaffected by any card effect except this card (you may tried to active "call of the haunted" and target 1 of your monster that destroyed by battle with this card but at the end the targeted monster cannot be SS since become [u]unaffected[/u] by card effect other than this card [size=3]"effect of monster that destroyed by battle with this card is negate"[/size] im quite sure you all know this effect means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='Ariel Tanuwijaya' timestamp='1329038360' post='5812275'] hello YCM member's this is my first post after century of joining (yes its true how ironic '''') to note i was born and live in non-english based country (indonesia to be exact) so maybe i have some issue of OCG or communicate with other member on top of that this is my first post and card CnC with no harsh word please (i hope this posting process is going well) [attachment=34058:createcard.php.jpg] This card cannot be Special Summoned. when this card battle a monster switch this card ATK [only during your turn] or DEF [only during your opponent turn] with ATK/DEF of monster it(s) battle [whichever of the amount is highest] until the end of Damage step. this card and any opponent monster(s) that destroyed by battle with this card [while those monster in the graveyard] is unaffected by any card effect other than this card. effect of monster that destroyed by battle with this card is negate pic from deviant art and random google searching [/quote] [b]OCG Fix (as I understand the effect):[/b] Cannot be Special Summoned. When this card attacks: This card's ATK becomes equal to the monster it's battling's ATK, and that monster's ATK becomes equal to this card's ATK. When this card is attacked: This card's DEF becomes equal to the monster it's battling's DEF, and that monster's DEF becomes equal to this card's DEF. During the Damage Step: Negate your opponent's monster's effect(s). Monsters this card destroys by battle are unaffected by card effects while in the Graveyard, except this card's. Personally, I don't see why it has to be Level 10. It would do fine as a Level 8. And then do as Gandorator and Venom have suggested: remove the No-SS clause, and replace it with a self-Summoning effect (or a reduced/alternative tribute effect); and change the effect to only cover the ATK stat during the battle. At least that way, when it is blown up/banished by an effect, you haven't lost too much/can get it back relatively easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Tanuwijaya Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 sorry to reply just now but thank for all who give CnC until now and especially max thank for the OCG fixing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Tanuwijaya Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiya_Reita Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 wah, indo juga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gαr Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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