WWECENA Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329527500' post='5823476'] huh.... anyways I have to leave, but just listen ok? [size=5][b][u][i]I am saying that Neo-Spaciens don't need a 1k ATK boost. I am saying Trap cards can protect Neo-Spaciens.[/i][/u][/b][/size] [size=5][size=4]just think about it[/size][/size] [size=5][size=4]goodbye.[/size][/size] [/quote] ok listen to this i'm gonna you the trap card anyway whether this card on the field or not the point of this card is to help neo spaciens have a fighting chance with or without the trap cards just think about it ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Neo Spacians don't need the attack boost, but if it doesn't break them don't b*tch about it. Anyway, destruction by battle is a bad condition. You're giving them 1k attack, making it harder to beat them in battle anyway. I'd consider making it "When a Neo-Spacian is destroyed by an opponent's card" instead (see Wattdragonfly for the wording). That way it does have a decent use. Not sure on the Neo Space since the only deck I've seen that runs multiple field spells is Geartown Malefics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329529651' post='5823570'] You're giving them 1k attack, making it harder to beat them in battle [/quote] oh plz tell me you are joking with me right now cuz if you telling me that 1300 ATK is hard to beat then i will stop doing yugi card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1329530930' post='5823632'] oh plz tell me you are joking with me right now cuz if you telling me that 1300 ATK is hard to beat then i will stop doing yugi card [/quote] I did not say it would be hard to beat them in battle, I said it would be [b]harder[/b] to beat them. 1300 atk is harder to beat than 300 :/ There's also Dark Panther with 2000 :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329533246' post='5823723'] I did not say it would be hard to beat them in battle, I said it would be [b]harder[/b] to beat them. 1300 atk is harder to beat than 300 :/ There's also Dark Panther with 2000 :/ [/quote] ya i know 2000 ATK is not really that [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]dangerous beside with 2000 ATK he have fighting chance until he [/size][/font][/color][size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]can [/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Contact Fusion that's the point of the card [/font][/size][color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3] [/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1329534562' post='5823784'] ya i know 2000 ATK is not really that [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]dangerous beside with 2000 ATK he have fighting chance until he [/size][/font][/color][size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]can [/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Contact Fusion that's the point of the card [/font][/size] [/quote] Ok let me say something. Nothing is wrong with the attack increase. I have not said there is a problem nor will I say there is. My suggestion was to make it so that he "add 1 neo spacian" effect activates whenever a neospacian is destroyed by your opponent's card. So whether it was killed by battle or because your opponent Dark Holed it would activate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [size=7][b]OH SHUT UP ALL OF YOU AND LISTEN. [/b][/size] The only support cards that are used all have a certain thing in common, and it's that they have synergy with the thing they're supporting, AND are also worth the deck slot. Most support cards in RC belong in neither. Either way, my point is: You gotta know a deck if you want to support it. I, having used Neo-Spacians on DN for some time, know that these little guys mainly work around (1) Convert Contact and (2) Arm Knight into Cross Porter and (3) Chaos stuff. TBH I rarely keep Neo-Spacians on the field till they're destroyed by battle. Also, Neo-Space is bad. So, all 3 effs are meh. If I wanted to make a Neo-Spacian support Field Spell, I'd make it like: Once per turn, during the End Phase of a turn in which a "Neo-Spacian" monster was sent to the Graveyard: Target and resolve one of the following effects: -Add 1 "Neo-Spacian" monster from your deck to your hand. -Send 1 "Neo-Spacian" or "Elemental HERO" monster from your deck to your Graveyard. -Draw 1 card. THAT's more like something that'll support Neo-Spacians. I usually don't like changing effects entirely, since that doesn't count as good advice, but this card can't be ran in Neo-Spacians, so at least you gotta change something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329647625' post='5826525'] Ok let me say something. Nothing is wrong with the attack increase. I have not said there is a problem nor will I say there is. My suggestion was to make it so that he "add 1 neo spacian" effect activates whenever a neospacian is destroyed by your opponent's card. So whether it was killed by battle or because your opponent Dark Holed it would activate. [/quote] oh i see your point [quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1329650165' post='5826551'] [size=7][b]OH SHUT UP ALL OF YOU AND LISTEN. [/b][/size] The only support cards that are used all have a certain thing in common, and it's that they have synergy with the thing they're supporting, AND are also worth the deck slot. Most support cards in RC belong in neither. Either way, my point is: You gotta know a deck if you want to support it. I, having used Neo-Spacians on DN for some time, know that these little guys mainly work around (1) Convert Contact and (2) Arm Knight into Cross Porter and (3) Chaos stuff. TBH I rarely keep Neo-Spacians on the field till they're destroyed by battle. Also, Neo-Space is bad. So, all 3 effs are meh. If I wanted to make a Neo-Spacian support Field Spell, I'd make it like: Once per turn, during the End Phase of a turn in which a "Neo-Spacian" monster was sent to the Graveyard: Target and resolve one of the following effects: -Add 1 "Neo-Spacian" monster from your deck to your hand. -Send 1 "Neo-Spacian" or "Elemental HERO" monster from your deck to your Graveyard. -Draw 1 card. THAT's more like something that'll support Neo-Spacians. I usually don't like changing effects entirely, since that doesn't count as good advice, but this card can't be ran in Neo-Spacians, so at least you gotta change something. [/quote] actually if you ask anyone which effect will they use they gonna tell you the 1k ATK boost and beside your effect doesn't help neo-spacian at all with your effect they don't have a fighting chance i don't know if you notice but i said i made this card to support Neo-Spacian them self as an archetype so they can contact fusion eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1329668199' post='5826798'] actually if you ask anyone which effect will they use they gonna tell you the 1k ATK boost and beside your effect doesn't help neo-spacian at all with your effect they don't have a fighting chance i don't know if you notice but i said i made this card to support Neo-Spacian them self as an archetype so they can contact fusion eventually [/quote] You don't realize how the 2 cards he listed sends Neo Spacians to the Graveyard and triggers the effect. It's either add a Spacian to your hand or dump a neos. Since the easiest way to get Neos on the field is be reviving him, that helps a lot. Otherwise his card does the same as yours, only it works with Covert Contract and Prisma but has to wait till the end of the turn, which is pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329674530' post='5827000'] You don't realize how the 2 cards he listed sends Neo Spacians to the Graveyard and triggers the effect. It's either add a Spacian to your hand or dump a neos. Since the easiest way to get Neos on the field is be reviving him, that helps a lot. Otherwise his card does the same as yours, only it works with Covert Contract and Prisma but has to wait till the end of the turn, which is pretty damn good. [/quote] look like i said before i didn't do this card to support [size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Elemental HERO monsters why you don't get this point they got alot of support cards already beside there is alot of way to send neos to the graveyard the [/font][/size]easiest[size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif] way is to use [/font][/size][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Elemental HERO prisma effect i will do 2 thing in a price of one i will send neos to the graveyard and prisma name will be [/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Elemental HERO neos so i really don't need the effect this dude said so for the last time people this card is to support [/font][size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Neo-Spacian and [/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Neo-Spacian only ok[/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/size][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1329681714' post='5827233'] look like i said before i didn't do this card to support [size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Elemental HERO monsters why you don't get this point they got alot of support cards already beside there is alot of way to send neos to the graveyard the [/font][/size]easiest[size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif] way is to use [/font][/size][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Elemental HERO prisma effect i will do 2 thing in a price of one i will send neos to the graveyard and prisma name will be [/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Elemental HERO neos so i really don't need the effect this dude said so for the last time people this card is to support [/font][size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Neo-Spacian and [/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Neo-Spacian only ok[/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/size][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font] [/quote] ... We aren't talking about Eemental HEROs We're talking about Neo Spacians The effect will either add a Neo Spacian to hand or ditch an E-HERO to the Grave. Neos is an E-HERO. O-Oversoul summons a Normal E-HERO from the Grave Call of the Haunted summons from the Grave Reborn summons from the grave Birthright Summons a vanilla fromt he grave Just because the card says E-HERO doesn't mean it's meant solely for E-HERO and can't help Neo-Spacians :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329688151' post='5827484'] ... We aren't talking about Eemental HEROs We're talking about Neo Spacians The effect will either add a Neo Spacian to hand or ditch an E-HERO to the Grave. Neos is an E-HERO. O-Oversoul summons a Normal E-HERO from the Grave Call of the Haunted summons from the Grave Reborn summons from the grave Birthright Summons a vanilla fromt he grave Just because the card says E-HERO doesn't mean it's meant solely for E-HERO and can't help Neo-Spacians :/ [/quote] ya i know but answer me this how his effect help Neo Spacian to have a fighting chance or to stay on the field longer if you answer me than i will stop talking again about this subject deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1329690917' post='5827560'] ya i know but answer me this how his effect help Neo Spacian to have a fighting chance or to stay on the field longer if you answer me than i will stop talking again about this subject deal [/quote] Because if you're able to Contact Fuse by reviving Neos you don't need to give them time on the field :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329691581' post='5827577'] Because if you're able to Contact Fuse by reviving Neos you don't need to give them time on the field :/ [/quote] will that's your opinion others may disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Guess what. The only Neo-Spacian that actually fights is Grand Mole. And he doesn't care a s*** about ATK points. lrn2neospacian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 [quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1329701738' post='5828021'] Guess what. The only Neo-Spacian that actually fights is Grand Mole. And he doesn't care a s*** about ATK points. lrn2neospacian [/quote] but the rest need the ATK point to fight anyway like i said this is just your [size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]opinion so no problem [/font][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 ...Have you even PLAYED Neo-Spacians before? They don't fight. And even if they all got a +1000 point bonus, they still wouldn't. It's something pretty much obvious if you've ever used them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Ok stop the sh*t here please. This is not a battle of opinions, it's a battle of how a deck works. The minute you started playing the opinion card you lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 [size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1329703272' post='5828085'] but the rest need the ATK point to fight anyway like i said this is just your [size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]opinion so no problem [/font][/size] [/quote]why the hell did you post this card if you dont want opinions?[/font][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 [quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1329707023' post='5828192'] ...Have you even PLAYED Neo-Spacians before? [/quote] of course i did that's why i did this card [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329708716' post='5828221'] Ok stop the sh*t here please. This is not a battle of opinions, it's a battle of how a deck works. The minute you started playing the opinion card you lost. [/quote] so it's my fault now cuz i try to be polite there is people here say Neo-Spacians need ATK there is people say they don't that's what i was talking about that's why i told him this is just your [font="tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif"]opinion and btw i know i did a very good support card that [/font]Neo-Spacians really need you not always gonna have neos or neo space on the field waiting for you to contact fusion [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font] [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329709750' post='5828264'] [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]why the hell did you post this card if you dont want opinions?[/font] [/quote] not because i told someone ( this is just your opinion ) doesn't mean i don't want opinion you just misunderstood [size=4] [/size] [size=4] [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1329711872' post='5828305'] so it's my fault now cuz i try to be polite there is people here say Neo-Spacians need ATK there is people say they don't that's what i was talking about that's why i told him this is just your [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]opinion and btw i know i did a very good support card that [/font]Neo-Spacians really need you not always gonna have neos or neo space on the field waiting for you to contact fusion [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font] [/quote] Do have to be so arrogant about your own card? Could you try to understand someone's point? If you think you are being polite you are even more arrogant than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329755448' post='5828990'] Do have to be so arrogant about your own card? Could you try to understand someone's point? If you think you are being polite you are even more arrogant than I thought. [/quote] oh sorry i didn't know that polite people are arrogant those days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1329770925' post='5829578'] oh sorry i didn't know that polite people are arrogant those days [/quote]Gosh I really dont know what you get from people's posts. Your not taking constructive criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329771065' post='5829581'] Your not taking constructive criticism. [/quote] oh ya says who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1329789951' post='5830383'] oh ya says who? [/quote] I just said it in my post...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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