-Lightray Daedalus- Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 We've been following the OCG banlist for a few years now, and for the most part, the OCG list has been curbing the power of problem cards and decks to a satisfactory degree. But this time, the two most powerful Decks in the TCG are all but unscathed. Usually, even if the TCG has an issue, the banlist does something to weaken the offending Deck (like how Infernity got hit, even though the TCG had the near-broken Infernity Barrier as an exclusive). This time, our exclusives seem to be the ONLY reason the Deck is amazing in the TCG, so them not being hit in any fashion is considered unusual. And problematic, since a VAST number of us are TCG players. Indeed...also...for the record TCG is still fooling around and not giving us new priority which could make the Game so much balanced. And about TCG Exclusives...Wind-Up s*** barely go out...Banlist should have been ready like a month a go or so...so it is doubtful it comtemples the power of cards that we just got...and that might have been played in...How many tourneys so far? The only card that might have just escaped is TGU which is pretty much older...but even then...Banlist did hear TCG at some point otherwise they wouldn't have hit Tengu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseSymphony Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 I seriously doubt they're going to make two banlists, whether everyone thinks it's necessary and logical or not. Yes, this format is going to be flooded with Wind-Ups, Inzektors, and Dino Rabbits, and it's going to suck, but unless this list is fake (which I highly doubt it is), then we really just need to get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 @Evilfusion: Wind-Up Rabbit is also an exclusive and one of the best cards in the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 This list doesn't even cater to OCG standards. With this, Inzektors pretty much become the only deck to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 *squicks* I quit for the format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 This list doesn't even cater to OCG standards. With this, Inzektors pretty much become the only deck to run. How good TGUless Inzektors are??? Coz only Good Inzektors I've seen lately have her as a staple...maybe that changes things a little? Someone showme an OCG inzector Build so I can see if i'm talking bullshit here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 How good TGUless Inzektors are??? Coz only Good Inzektors I've seen lately have her as a staple...maybe that changes things a little? Someone showme an OCG inzector Build so I can see if i'm talking bullshit here http://shriek.twoday.net/stories/64973256/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 http://shriek.twoday...ories/64973256/ Thanks a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Is Mainspring Mine Zenmaine "Wind-Up Zenmaines"? I thought that was a TCG Exclusive, or am I wrong on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 This list doesn't even cater to OCG standards. With this, Inzektors pretty much become the only deck to run.Rabbit and Lavals are meta there, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Is Mainspring Mine Zenmaine "Wind-Up Zenmaines"? I thought that was a TCG Exclusive, or am I wrong on that? It's a TCG Exclusive, but it was released on Gold Series 2012 on Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Is Mainspring Mine Zenmaine "Wind-Up Zenmaines"? I thought that was a TCG Exclusive, or am I wrong on that? Did you forget OCG got Zenmaines in the Gold Series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 I dont really keep tabs on OCG Sets unless new cards are involved. So yes, I did forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 "Oh, you play Yugioh?""no, not anymore..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 So we all can conclude that the list is BS to the OCG as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Not really...While Inzector seems to be popular the Deck i've saw are too wierd...then again...maybe that's the way they DO work in OCG so I can't be sure... Now...I wanna know what Hero Ninja Laggia is and why it wins stuff...O_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Let's see, combine the amazing HERO engine + the Ninja's Super Poly, which goes into lolwut backrow protection with Safe Zone + being able to use the same Super Poly to access the 1 (or 2 in TCG) gamebreaking Xyz that wins. Geez, I wonder why it wins games. Also, I found it BS how they didn't hit Rekindling, despite Lavals using it to win often in the OCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Because wins =/= topping. The banlist is meant to weaken Decks or cards that are problematic to the existence of other Decks and cards. Either because the card is outright too powerful, a Deck with that card in multiples is too powerful, or because the card/combo is so generic that other Decks and strategies struggle to compete if they don't use that card. That's why Dustshoot is banned on this list. If you use Dustshoot, you gain a great advantage by seeing their hand, all their options in hand, and being able to return a crucial monster to the Deck, where it may be difficult to retrieve. If you dont run Dustshoot, you don't have nearly the same level of advantage as someone who does run Dustshoot will have. It's not really a skillful card. It's a bit sacky, and just screws with a player too much. The only weakness is the risk of a dead draw, and the advantage that can be reaped far exceeds that risk. Flamvell and Lavals can use Rekindling easily to great effect, but they aren't consistent enough to put other Decks to shame the way some cards in some Decks can. Until that day comes when Flamvell and Laval are almost too powerful to battle against on even ground, Rekindling will probably be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Let's see, combine the amazing HERO engine + the Ninja's Super Poly, which goes into lolwut backrow protection with Safe Zone + being able to use the same Super Poly to access the 1 (or 2 in TCG) gamebreaking Xyz that wins. Geez, I wonder why it wins games. Also, I found it BS how they didn't hit Rekindling, despite Lavals using it to win often in the OCG. None of those Deck Run Safe Zone thought...and I already stated to be seeing OCG Decks... Anyways...althought Insects build are weird...The Do win is aweful ways...now I do wonder why they haven't been touched...mmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 None of those Deck Run Safe Zone thought...and I already stated to be seeing OCG Decks... Anyways...althought Insects build are weird...The Do win is aweful ways...now I do wonder why they haven't been touched...mmm>Ninjas>not running Safe Zone ...Erm... what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 >Ninjas>not running Safe Zone ...Erm... what? Only if you run White Dragon Ninja, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Only if you run White Dragon Ninja, I think. True and that's a TCG Exclusive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Oh! *slaps self* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Why do people still have doubts about this being fake? It's been confirmed |: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Why do people still have doubts about this being fake? It's been confirmed |: My doubts have been fading rapidly. This list makes sense in terms of the OCG. MOSTLY, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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