Guest Welche Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 So there are some rules that aren't written anywhere on the site which cause members to be perma banned while there are some rules on the site that we can't really even report a thread for breaking because mods don't care. IDGI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photonfusion Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Ok so what I get from this topic is that warnings and punishments are random things mods can pull from their ass ty and lock No, not at all. We don't just add warnings for the hell of it. Warnings are added for the severity of the offense in addition to the repeat offender bit. I don't personally judge on your time spent here, despite the logic of "you should know better", because lapses of judgment can occur. The more blatant or inappropriate an offense, the easier it is to give them a warn for that behavior. The more frequent the behavior is done in a single topic, or even multiple topics in a certain amount of time, the more strict the punishment is. Topic locking tends to occur when the topic is derailed, is against the section rules, or when it has been controlled by a person who is breaking rules. The continued existence of the topic serves no purpose and trying to drive it back on track is a wasted endeavor. Bans are usually handed out to people who are extremely consistent in their rule-breaking, such as Shard's spamming or Mage's trolling/cursing, and some other people's tendency to be complete bastards. Discretion is applied more often than not. You have to take many things at a case-by-case basis, rather than unifying certain rules with certain penalties without any wiggle room. I may see a spammer and not warn him, but others might see a spammer and give him a 20% warn for spamming. It depends on severity, which is subjective from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 If its not written it falls under Rule #1. Stop being mad that I perma'd mage's alt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Welche Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 I'm not mad about that. Can I report and thread and get it locked for breaking the deck section rules? No. Can I get perma banned for giving my password to a friend to help me deal with an error message I didn't understand? Yes. I just want a mod to explain this. I am asking a question. Don't be all high and mighty just f***ing answer it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 I would've answered in detail, if you had explained the two contrasting issues in the first place. :/ First, reports from TCG/Deck would only be received by some mods. How they handle it up to them. Second, you can't get perma'd for giving someone your password. Only if they start breaking the rules with said account, because how would we know otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 So there are some rules that aren't written anywhere on the site which cause members to be perma banned while there are some rules on the site that we can't really even report a thread for breaking because mods don't care. IDGI You're going to have to be WAY more specific. Most rules to my knowledge apply to a section-by-section basis, as well as with some mod discretion. I actually don't know if/where there is an overreaching set of rules for the entire site that shouldn't already be common sense. You in fact CAN report a thread for breaking the Your Deck rules. The actual course of action would depend on my discretion, being the mod for that section. It would help if there was some way of pointing out what the actual broken rule is, assuming it's not blatantly obvious if I went in. As for giving out passwords, I'm not aware there's a specific rule against it so much as you're obligated to pay the price of any actions your friend takes with your account. Also, the whole "alts running around being trolls" would be a good reason to NOT give your password out to people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Welche Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 So let's look more closely then. There are 7 rules to the forum. What punishment is appropriate for breaking what rule? Where is 10% warn level warranted? Where is a straight up ban warranted? Then we can look at forum specific rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 That is all dependent on the mod, excluding perma offenses (alting, posting inappropriate content, ect). In my case, the warns are higher (10%-30%) for repeat offenders and for high ranking/profile members, because they should know better. Edit: However, my days are spent dealing with bots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 For me, I base it entirely on discretion. I warn where I deem appropriate. My warns vary from 10-30%, depending on the severity of the offense, and how frequently that person has done it recently. Bans is when I dont care to bother giving the offender so many slaps on the wrist that they can ignore it, and I permaban trolls or alts of trolls, not counting the obligatory 3 day ban on 100% warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Welche Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Why should they be higher for repeat offenders? With someone like Jesse he enjoys getting the attention from mods which is why Icy didn't ban him for a while. Repeat offenders are likely to have something wrong with their psychology and need rehabilitation not punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Why should they be higher for repeat offenders? With someone like Jesse he enjoys getting the attention from mods which is why Icy didn't ban him for a while. Repeat offenders are likely to have something wrong with their psychology and need rehabilitation not punishment. Because those people didnt learn from the previous warning. If you continue to do something wrong even after being punished for doing the exact same thing, the consequence should be harsher, so that people dont think "Oh, I have a 20% warn. I can troll 7 more times before I'm in trouble". Repeat offenders who do it for fun have no purpose staying here when they go out of their way to cause unnecessary conflict. That's why I finally permabanned Bob the Rainicorn. The bans and warnings he got again and again and AGAIN had no effect, even after weeks and months of this. To say nothing of the fact he was a blatant as hell alt of Mage, who was permabanned for trolling. So, good bye to him. If anything, the moderators being overly lenient to Mage and his alts is all but encouraging the behavior. He has to lay low if he doesn't want permabans on every new alt he creates, because a newbie member trolling gets permabanned much, much faster than an older member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Welche Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 So here is another question. What amount of trolling is needed to get a member perma banned for it? Also why was it appropriate for Marblezone to ban me for a month without ever adding any warn level to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 So here is another question. What amount of trolling is needed to get a member perma banned for it? Also why was it appropriate for Marblezone to ban me for a month without ever adding any warn level to me? ...for a month? That may have been excessive, truthfully. I don't know. I'd have to check your warn history and the like. As for trolling, I hate trolls. HATE them. You will find yourself accumulating warns very quickly if I catch you trolling, especially several times in succession. I don't think there's a standard amount, it's again based on discretion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Welche Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Ok so what I get from this topic is that warnings and punishments are random things mods can pull from their ass ty and lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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