Kazooie Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 [center][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/31884.jpg[/img][/center] [left]2 Level 4 Monsters[/left] [left][color=#000000][font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif][size=3]This card's Attribute is also treated as WIND. Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card and Special Summon 2 Level 4 or lower Fish-Type Monsters from your Deck. These monsters have their effects negated, cannot be tributed, and cannot be used to Xyz Summon "Flash Flood Flying Fish".[/size][/font][/color][/left] Basically, it's big fish incarnate. However, instead of spamming as many as you can summon, you only get two and they can't be used to loop and summon this guy over and over again. Fish need to be playable again somehow. ;~; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
£>-ShådøwBøx-<3 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Well fish aren't playable, and this wouldn't help, it's a fun defense strat. but it would convince me more if there was a whole fishy set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Big Fish specials summons 4 Level 4 Fish including 1 Swamp Eel Overlay 2 of them for this Swamp Eel + The other for a level 8 synchro This grabs 2 more fish Make another rank 4 This is just the first combo that comes to mind that makes this seem even more broken than it should be. It's generic, so Fish could run another Rank 4 engine to summon it. (I'm tired so I can't think exactly right off the bat, but remember this includes Rabbit.) Then, you're able to essentially Special Summon another generic Rank 4 or lower. This is actually what makes it rather interesting, it allows for players to use uncommon cards like Black Ray Lancer, however this does mean running bad cards in the deck. Also, one huge problem I see, is that is can SS Swamp Eel and another Fish. So, from a card like Rabbit, you make a 2350 beater and a Scrap Dragon. I'm extremely mixed on this card though, it makes Fish good, but it doesn't have many great Fish to work with, since the deck would rely entirely on this. However, in doing so, this gives the deck a ridiculously large amount of power, and in itself is broken. If I didn't explain that very well, since I'm tired, just ask and I'll re-phrase/add stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 That's pretty much the card in a nutshell. It only use is in FIsh, which are incredibly bad now, but I'm afraid it will totally break them... I'm gonna test it some tomorrow, so I'll see the big problems then and change it. Might have to limit it from Synchro Summons, or make it Level 3 or lower so no Swamp Eel Abuse... Or limit it from Xyz Monsters. I'll have to do one or the other... And I would honestly prefer the Xyz Monster one right now since Synchro's lost a bunch of stuff while Xyz are still gaining. Probably wouldn't be enough to balance it though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 [quote name='Kanade Otonashi' timestamp='1330745373' post='5853284'] That's pretty much the card in a nutshell. It only use is in FIsh, which are incredibly bad now, but I'm afraid it will totally break them... I'm gonna test it some tomorrow, so I'll see the big problems then and change it. Might have to limit it from Synchro Summons, or make it Level 3 or lower so no Swamp Eel Abuse... Or limit it from Xyz Monsters. I'll have to do one or the other... And I would honestly prefer the Xyz Monster one right now. Probably wouldn't be enough to balance it though... [/quote] Well, level 3 or lower makes it useless since it requires even more bad Fish. Preventing from Synchro summons is important in this case, since you essentially Special Summon a Scrap or Stardust Dragon. I say slap a no synchro clause on it, and possibly test it from there. It's kinda like a buffed Zenmaighty but for Fish only, so you can see the concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 [quote name='evilchris' timestamp='1330745608' post='5853306'] Well, level 3 or lower makes it useless since it requires even more bad Fish. Preventing from Synchro summons is important in this case, since you essentially Special Summon a Scrap or Stardust Dragon. I say slap a no synchro clause on it, and possibly test it from there. It's kinda like a buffed Zenmaighty but for Fish only, so you can see the concern. [/quote] My only thing is I kinda wanted it to be more Synchro focused, with all the hits Synchro's took lately with losing pretty much the only completely splashable tuner and that other thing I hate. Probably for the best, but still... Not big on the idea. Gonna have to try it I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 [quote name='Kanade Otonashi' timestamp='1330745691' post='5853322'] My only thing is I kinda wanted it to be more Synchro focused, with all the hits Synchro's took lately with losing pretty much the only completely splashable tuner and that other thing I hate. Probably for the best, but still... Not big on the idea. Gonna have to try it I guess. [/quote] If you want it to be more Synchro based then you really need a much bigger limitation on the card itself. Like specific materials being required, although once again this is easily supplemented by Rescue Rabbit. So the limitation would have to be in the cost. Because yeah if I'm not mistaken the only Tuna they have left is Eel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 [quote name='evilchris' timestamp='1330745837' post='5853338'] If you want it to be more Synchro based then you really need a much bigger limitation on the card itself. Like specific materials being required, although once again this is easily supplemented by Rescue Rabbit. So the limitation would have to be in the cost. Because yeah if I'm not mistaken the only Tuna they have left is Eel. [/quote] Yep, and anymore limitations and it pretty much isn't usable at all. I guess I could add some weird thing where it couldn't be used for Level 8 or highers, making the biggest threats things like Black Rose and Gungrir... And if you're willing to run some bad level 2 Fish, you could make things like Brio and Dewloren. I could limit it to Water Synchros, but that means you'll HAVE to run the bad level 2 Fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 [quote name='Kanade Otonashi' timestamp='1330746092' post='5853367'] Yep, and anymore limitations and it pretty much isn't usable at all. I guess I could add some weird thing where it couldn't be used for Level 8 or highers, making the biggest threats things like Black Rose and Gungrir... And if you're willing to run some bad level 2 Fish, you could make things like Brio and Dewloren. I could limit it to Water Synchros, but that means you'll HAVE to run the bad level 2 Fish. [/quote] Actually limiting it to Water Synchros sounds like a good idea. It still allows for Gungnir. Or just limiting to no level 8 or higher synchros. My issue with this is, in Rabbit's case, it's still a +2 summon, where both monsters always have 2k+ atk. In every other case it's a +0 which has another Xyz/Synchro. It just isn't a balanced concept. Maybe if it only grabbed 1 Fish from the deck, it wouldn't be as bad. Right now it's just a broken concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 [quote name='evilchris' timestamp='1330746385' post='5853396'] Actually limiting it to Water Synchros sounds like a good idea. It still allows for Gungnir. Or just limiting to no level 8 or higher synchros. My issue with this is, in Rabbit's case, it's still a +2 summon, where both monsters always have 2k+ atk. In every other case it's a +0 which has another Xyz/Synchro. It just isn't a balanced concept. Maybe if it only grabbed 1 Fish from the deck, it wouldn't be as bad. Right now it's just a broken concept. [/quote] WATER Synchro's are pretty much the only option for it... Still better then what happened to Fishborg Blaster. It's a broken concept, but it's not much more broken then the rest of the game right now... And that makes me sad. I could make it grab 1 Fish from the Deck, but honestly, I would remove most of the limitations other then keeping it as not allowed to overlay for another one of this guy. ...Honestly, that's the only way the card could be balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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