Katoki Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Okay you are contridicting yourself. What happened to "Retarted tech". That card would work in just about any deck. Level nine guy with 2100 ATK and 4500 DEF puts monsters back in the deck yeah work in any deck. Also Does it really matter if it's stars or levels? You really have no reason besides the sack of argueing to complain about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosuke-kun Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Lol xD Love the pic. But seriously, that card goes in just about any deck since it returns the whole friggin' Graveyard to the Deck and gives it ATK for it. That's what makes him OP, not the level thing. Yes, there are cards that are better, but since he can kill just about anything your opponent brings out and costs literally nothing, he'd the better choice overall. But, to get away from arguing, the TCG is good, and the pics are fairly unique. My complements in those areas. And to all of you, IT REALLY DOESN'T FUGGIN MATTER IF IT'S STARS OR LEVEL IN CONVERSATION. DROP THIS STUPIDITY BEFORE YOU ALL LOSE AN IQ POINT =_= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REvan342 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Gantorator.... your signature is highly innaproppriate.. are you aware that alot of kids view this site??i mean really..... her butt is hanging out, and you can see most of the clevage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosuke-kun Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 *pats REvans shoulder* Stay on topic noob xD Nobody cares but you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Kio-kun' timestamp='1331373183' post='5864201'] Ummmm, well, in a proper Dragon deck? That aside, the monster himself spams them by constantly reving them. You are right in that I didn't read the effect properly, and for that I apologize, but he's still rather OP'd especially since you could just return him to the Extra Deck with Compulsory Evac and stuff like that and the effect would still go through. [/quote] SO WHAT? The Xyz Itself is more vulnerable than the two monsters it SS's. Why on Earth would you Summon Biomech AGAIN when it has less ATK and no Effect that matters while he's on the field? I really have no idea what you're getting at with that argument. [quote]It's just a waste in this time. Do you see anyone using Fusions anymore? I just fail to see why you'd waste time with an effect like this especially since the guy's already a b!tch to get out.[/quote] Yes. Fusions are used. Although that matters as much as a fly being killed in Australia right now. Because this is a Xyz, NOT a FUSION. You're not a very good player, are you? Well, I'm not that good either, but I can tell when I'm talking to one. [quote]Not sure if you know this, but Exodius is kinda hated on big time bro. That aside, if you're copying a monsters effect then telling me to "think outside the box" then there's really no way for me to explain this stuff xD[/quote] Never heard of him being hated. It's a rather suckish card which your opponent wouldn't give two fucks about when you play it. And I was telling you to think outside the box when referring to the Xyz if you followed my line of thought. Googol isn't original, but is great support for the Xyz. [quote]Ok, let's review Synchro's now. They require an exact level between Tuners and non-Tuner monsters correct? Now every once in a while, you're behind or above a level, hence the reason Synchro Boost, Level Returner, and other such cards that change up the levels were created. I believe that's also why the Fortune Ladies became such popular Spellcasters. Now think, a guy who can increase or decrease a monsters level by two is gonna be a much faster Synchro slip isn't it? My point is, Synchro's run on certain levels that not all monsters are at, so yes. Googol does help Synchro's.[/quote] *facepalm* no synchro deck would EVER EVER need a level 9 monster in the main deck, no matter how much it can modify other monsters' levels. Because 1. (good) Synchro decks NEED the Graveyard. 2. You CANNOT Synchro using a level 9 monster. 3. Even if you do a retarded move such as "send 2 cards from hand to grave to make Googol level 7, then synchro with a level 1 tuner for a generic level 8 Synchro". But that move is stupid on so many levels. [quote]Lastly, stars and levels are the same thing. Don't pms over it. [/quote] sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Katoki' timestamp='1331374004' post='5864208'] Okay you are contridicting yourself. What happened to "Retarted tech". That card would work in just about any deck. Level nine guy with 2100 ATK and 4500 DEF puts monsters back in the deck yeah work in any deck. Also Does it really matter if it's stars or levels? You really have no reason besides the sack of argueing to complain about that. [/quote] Oh my god, do you even follow the conversation? I said using it for Synchros would be a retarded tech. Using it for Rank 9 Xyz Monsters is a brilliant tech. AND I ALREADY f***ing SAID. I WILL CHANGE THE ATK AND DEF TO SOMETHING LESS. LEARN TO READ PREVIOUS COMMENTS BEFORE COMMENTING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REvan342 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Kio-kun' timestamp='1331374329' post='5864211'] *pats REvans shoulder* Stay on topic noob xD Nobody cares but you. [/quote] =(................ okay....... o heres a card ive started working on... its a ritual monster. [url="http://www.yugiohcardmaker.net/ycmaker/createcard.php?name=Prodigy%20Angel%3A%20Seinaru%20Mono&cardtype=Ritual&subtype=effect&attribute=Dark&level=2&magictraptype=None&rarity=Common&picture=http://images.yugiohcardmaker.net/560981/272906956.jpg&set1=REX&set2=IDKY&inset=true&type=Fairy&description=This%20card%20can%20only%20be%20summoned%20by%20the%20ritual%20spell%20card%20%22Enilightenment%20from%20Above%22%20and%20tributing%20monsters%20whose%20total%20levels%20are%20atleast%20two.%20Once%20per-turn%20you%20may%20equip%20this%20monster%20to%20a%20level%207%20or%20lower%2C%20fairy%20type%20monster.%20The%20monster%20that%20this%20card%20is%20equipped%20to%20gains%20500%20attack%20points%20and%20can%20attack%20twice%20per%20turn%20(%20at%20the%20cost%20of%20500%20lifepoints).&circulation=&atk=0&def=0&creator=&year=2012&serial"]http://www.yugiohcar...ear=2012[/url]= Click the link to view This card can only be summoned by the ritual spell card "Enilightenment from Above" and tributing monsters whose total levels are atleast two. Once per-turn you may equip this monster to a level 7 or lower, fairy type monster. The monster that this card is equipped to gains 500 attack points and can attack twice per turn ( at the cost of 500 lifepoints). I havent designed the ritual spell card yet =[ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katoki Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Yes I do follow the conversation. Clearly we are talking about two totally different things and you don't understand a singal thing I said. Seeing as I never mentioned him using that on Xyz's. Also please don't double post for it is agaist the rules. [quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331374560' post='5864217'] =(................ okay....... o heres a card ive started working on... its a ritual monster. [url="http://www.yugiohcardmaker.net/ycmaker/createcard.php?name=Prodigy%20Angel%3A%20Seinaru%20Mono&cardtype=Ritual&subtype=effect&attribute=Dark&level=2&magictraptype=None&rarity=Common&picture=http://images.yugiohcardmaker.net/560981/272906956.jpg&set1=REX&set2=IDKY&inset=true&type=Fairy&description=This%20card%20can%20only%20be%20summoned%20by%20the%20ritual%20spell%20card%20%22Enilightenment%20from%20Above%22%20and%20tributing%20monsters%20whose%20total%20levels%20are%20atleast%20two.%20Once%20per-turn%20you%20may%20equip%20this%20monster%20to%20a%20level%207%20or%20lower%2C%20fairy%20type%20monster.%20The%20monster%20that%20this%20card%20is%20equipped%20to%20gains%20500%20attack%20points%20and%20can%20attack%20twice%20per%20turn%20(%20at%20the%20cost%20of%20500%20lifepoints).&circulation=&atk=0&def=0&creator=&year=2012&serial"]http://www.yugiohcar...ear=2012[/url]= Click the link to view This card can only be summoned by the ritual spell card "Enilightenment from Above" and tributing monsters whose total levels are atleast two. Once per-turn you may equip this monster to a level 7 or lower, fairy type monster. The monster that this card is equipped to gains 500 attack points and can attack twice per turn ( at the cost of 500 lifepoints). I havent designed the ritual spell card yet =[ [/quote] This counts as spam and it is againt a magical thing called the rules. Go read them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REvan342 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [list] [*]Threads with illegal and/or inappropriate content will be locked on sight, and without warning. [*]Threads without cards posted will be locked on sight, and without warning. [*]Threads containing cards posted via attachment will be locked on sight, and without warning. [*]Treat other members with full equality; there is zero-tolerance for flaming and/or trolling. [*]If you disagree with something (i.e., cards and/or comments), please state reasons as to why you believe so. [*]If you have the power to post saying that a thread and/or comment is against the rules, then you have the power to report the thread and/or comment as well. If you do not do so, this will be considered voluntary mini-modding. [*]Conversations being carried on within a thread that is not in any way related, will be grounds for punishment. [*]Persons commenting with [u][u]ONLY[/u][/u] an OCG (Official Card Grammar) correct will receive a warning. Repeat offenders will be dealt with accordingly at the discretion of a moderator. [/list] [b][u][u]Other Relevant Regulations[/u][/u][/b][list] [*]"Bumping" of a thread (in other words, posting in a way that deliberately moves a thread back to the front page) is allowed if it has been 12 hours since the last comment, or is beyond the first page. And must be done by the Topic Poster, unless given prior permission by said topic poster. This Rule is invalid if the section is not active. [*]Dark Synchro and Dark Tuner Monsters, "Updates" of currently-existing cards (different art, etc.), Joke Cards, and any other cards that do not belong under the Realistic Cards subforum will be dealt with at the discretion of a moderator, though it will usually result in a lock. If you have found that you have made a mistake in posting your thread (such as it being in the wrong subforum), please state so, and report your own thread. [*]Image credit is not required. If there is a copyright/trademark/etc. issue, moderators will deal with the issue accordingly. Please do not comment on a person's card saying they lack image credit. [/list] It is NOT spam. the definition of spam is "redundent, or persistent use of topics unrelated to the current topic" we are in a Yugioh card forum, and i posted a yugioh card..... i did not break any rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Katoki' timestamp='1331374951' post='5864219'] Yes I do follow the conversation. Clearly we are talking about two totally different things and you don't understand a singal thing I said. Seeing as I never mentioned him using that on Xyz's. Also please don't double post for it is agaist the rules. [/quote] You mentioned Synchro use, I said it's a retarded tech in Synchros, which it is, and there was no point in even mentioning it. But what you apparently don't understand is that Googol is support for Xyz. That's its purpose. The level modification effect, the easiness of its summon, all that is so it helps the summon of RANK 8 AND 9 XYZ. And I said a 100 times over, I am changing the ATK/DEF to something else, even if it's ATK and DEF are both 1000 it'd still be good because of what it does. [quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331375333' post='5864221'][list] [*]and/or comment as well. If you do not do so, this will be considered voluntary mini-modding. [*][color=#ff0000][i][b]Conversations being carried on within a thread that is not in any way related, will be grounds for punishment.[/b][/i][/color] [*]Persons commenting with [u][u]ONLY[/u][/u] an OCG (Official Card Grammar) correct will receive a warning. Repeat offenders will be dealt with accordingly at the discretion of a moderator. [/list] It is NOT spam. the definition of spam is "redundent, or persistent use of topics unrelated to the current topic" we are in a Yugioh card forum, and i posted a yugioh card..... i did not break any rules. [/quote] > your cards are in no way related to mine. Make your own threads. > No one has ever complained about my signature. Not a mod, not anybody. You mentioning it, with nothing else in your post that is OT, means it's spam. ....why do I even bother...you're probably some idiot 11-year old... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosuke-kun Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1331374337' post='5864212'] SO WHAT? The Xyz Itself is more vulnerable than the two monsters it SS's. Why on Earth would you Summon Biomech AGAIN when it has less ATK and no Effect that matters while he's on the field? I really have no idea what you're getting at with that argument. Yes. Fusions are used. Although that matters as much as a fly being killed in Australia right now. Because this is a Xyz, NOT a FUSION. You're not a very good player, are you? Well, I'm not that good either, but I can tell when I'm talking to one. Never heard of him being hated. It's a rather suckish card which your opponent wouldn't give two fucks about when you play it. And I was telling you to think outside the box when referring to the Xyz if you followed my line of thought. Googol isn't original, but is great support for the Xyz. *facepalm* no synchro deck would EVER EVER need a level 9 monster in the main deck, no matter how much it can modify other monsters' levels. Because 1. (good) Synchro decks NEED the Graveyard. 2. You CANNOT Synchro using a level 9 monster. 3. Even if you do a retarded move such as "send 2 cards from hand to grave to make Googol level 7, then synchro with a level 1 tuner for a generic level 8 Synchro". But that move is stupid on so many levels. [/quote] I can think of a few reasons. Firstly for defensive purposes. Secondly for skill reuse. In tourneys, you do what works at the moment. I see your point in them being more valuable, but the fact remains that reusing him can, and likely will be an asset. If this isn't about Fusions then why did YOU bother bringing them up =_= No, I admit I'm not great at the game, I've only ever placed 4th in card shop tourneys, but I know my way around my decks. Dude, Exodius is totally hated, but not many people use him. When he comes out, people start raging though. It's always funny to watch xD If you even thought of using him as Synchro Material, then you clearly should stay away from Synchro decks. Yes, you never use that effect on HIM. You use it on the little monsters that need boosts. You're right, reducing him to a level 7 is stupid, so please don't do that. REvan, what part of "Stay ON topic" was unclear to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REvan342 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 What happened to the good old days, when monsters didnt have all these weird arch-types, and strange abilities....Bottom line eventually, the bio mechs would eventually be the norm.... level 9s would be common place. and eventually they would lose their "broken" status" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katoki Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Does your cards Have anything to do with the Nuclear Xyz cards? No? Okay it's spam. The fact that we are of topic right now talking about the freakin rules is spam. It plays with the level of the tuner or syncro material. Soo it would help get synchros out. Which is exactly what I said in the begining. Yeah there other cards that are better for that but that doesn't change that it would help synchros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REvan342 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 spam... whatever...... All of this arguing about fusion and syncro aside..... machines are the fastest growing type so far, and has some of the best abilities. These cards are just a little ahead of their time, if you know what i mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Kio-kun' timestamp='1331375593' post='5864224'] I can think of a few reasons. Firstly for defensive purposes. Secondly for skill reuse. In tourneys, you do what works at the moment. I see your point in them being more valuable, but the fact remains that reusing him can, and likely will be an asset.[/quote] No, reusing him gives you no advantage in any way whatsoever. And even if it did, somehow, it wouldn't be anything significant. In fact, it'd be way more vulnerable to Solemn Warning/Judgement that way if you keep Xyz-ing into Biomech. [quote]If this isn't about Fusions then why did YOU bother bringing them up =_= No, I admit I'm not great at the game, I've only ever placed 4th in card shop tourneys, but I know my way around my decks.[/quote] Wow, I brought it up because the effect is similar. What more reason could there possibly be? [quote] If you even thought of using him as Synchro Material, then you clearly should stay away from Synchro decks. Yes, you never use that effect on HIM. You use it on the little monsters that need boosts. You're right, reducing him to a level 7 is stupid, so please don't do that.[/quote] Are you serious?....all this time I've been saying it's idiotic to use Googol for Synchros and from that you deducted that I would use him for Synchros?... Am I speaking in mandarin here or what?... And the fact there are better options out there to help Synchros means that the existing possibility of him being used for and/or help Synchro Summons is not important or worth discussing. [quote]REvan, what part of "Stay ON topic" was unclear to you? [/quote] I wonder the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosuke-kun Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331376286' post='5864234'] spam... whatever...... All of this arguing about fusion and syncro aside..... machines are the fastest growing type so far, and has some of the best abilities. These cards are just a little ahead of their time, if you know what i mean. [/quote] Just because Konami makes broken stuff doesn't mean other people should. And yes, Konami does make broken cards. A LOT broken cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REvan342 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Kio-kun' timestamp='1331376467' post='5864236'] Just because Konami makes broken stuff doesn't mean other people should. And yes, Konami does make broken cards. A LOT broken cards. [/quote] ive noticed that as well,........ but mayb what we think as broken, is just OP?.... or mayb broken cards are made on purpose.... example: Regenerating Rose LVL7 ATK:0 DEF:1400?..... and you can summon two crappy tokens when its destroyed..... is there a hidden strategy we just dont see in "broken cards"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosuke-kun Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1331376322' post='5864235'] No, reusing him gives you no advantage in any way whatsoever. And even if it did, somehow, it wouldn't be anything significant. In fact, it'd be way more vulnerable to Solemn Warning/Judgement that way if you keep Xyz-ing into Biomech. Wow, I brought it up because the effect is similar. What more reason could there possibly be? Are you serious?....all this time I've been saying it's idiotic to use Googol for Synchros and from that you deducted that I would use him for Synchros?... Am I speaking in mandarin here or what?... And the fact there are better options out there to help Synchros means that the existing possibility of him being used for and/or help Synchro Summons is not important or worth discussing. [/quote] Oh for Christ sakes, I quit. You're obviously not seeing the full picture here. [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1331376322' post='5864235'] I wonder the same thing [/quote] It's like trying to explain to a Kardashian that nobody gives a sh*t about their body right xD [quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331376711' post='5864238'] ive noticed that as well,........ but mayb what we think as broken, is just OP?.... or mayb broken cards are made on purpose.... example: Regenerating Rose LVL7 ATK:0 DEF:1400?..... and you can summon two crappy tokens when its destroyed..... is there a hidden strategy we just dont see in "broken cards"? [/quote] Do you even know what broken means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REvan342 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Broken is a term used to refer to any card giving the user of the card an excessive advantage or defines the competitive metagame in a negative or imbalanced manner. Which in simpler terms, either an over powered card, or a card that has no business being in the the game.... i know what broken means. i know this game very well...... mayb you dont know this game as well as you think you do...... BTW: where did Gantorator get the pics for the biomechs? cause they are pretty cool looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosuke-kun Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331377545' post='5864247'] Broken is a term used to refer to any card giving the user of the card an excessive advantage or defines the competitive metagame in a negative or imbalanced manner. Which in simpler terms, either an over powered card, or a card that has no business being in the the game.... i know what broken means. i know this game very well...... mayb you dont know this game as well as you think you do...... BTW: where did Gantorator get the pics for the biomechs? cause they are pretty cool looking. [/quote] Ok, I've had enough. You have shown left and F***ing right that you don't even know what this thread is let alone how to play the game. You in your own posts have no friggin idea how to play, terms of the game, or even how cards work. Now you're accusing me of not knowing a game I've grown up playing and frequently compete in of not knowing this game? Please before someone else suffers the torcher of your sh!tty spelling, failed grasp of 2nd grade grammar, and over all stupidity by kindly turning of your computer and not logging in again. Maybe I should say it so you understand. GET THE F*** OFF NOOB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REvan342 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 You were just reported ( heads up Kio-Kun) Ive shown excessive knowledge of the game, more knowledge than any of that crap you people were arguing about. My posts were all perfectly viable. youve only shown you know how to push your bieliefs on others. and as far as my spelling and grammer go,....... id like to see you type well at 5:00 AM youre the noob lil man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosuke-kun Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 *Slams head against wall till ears bleed* Whatever. I'm done dealing with you. Sorry for the spam. Again, pics and OCG/TCG were good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REvan342 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 A small suggestion on these monsters is to have a supporting spell card, like all good sets, they arent built on monsters alone. a simple one with an effect similar to "All bio-mechs on the field are protected from FLIP effects" i know its not the best.... just off the top of my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katoki Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 You realize that you've been spaming left and right through this whole thread. Also just because it's 5 Am means nothing for your spelling. It's like 4 Am and he is post just fine. But yeah your OCG is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Katoki' timestamp='1331380616' post='5864283'] You realize that you've been spaming left and right through this whole thread. Also just because it's 5 Am means nothing for your spelling. It's like 4 Am and he is post just fine. But yeah your OCG is good. [/quote] I just pulled an all-nighter and my grammar's still better than his. As is most people's for that matter. But anyways, all 3 of us have been spamming. Time to stop. Let's all agree to disagree, except for Revan, who we can all agree doesn't know what he's talking about. But yeah, I'll need more feedback from other TCG players on Biomech before I decide to change it. I've already said I'll change the stats on Googol, but nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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